Oh how I hate Kansas State.
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@DCHawker said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
Storr and Griffen combined 2-11 from 3. 2 RBs and 2 assists…
Hand picked by Bill Self
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ooops sorry shouldn’t have said that
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Second most points KSU has scored in a conference game…
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If the defense that played Monday against ISU showed up we’d be winning this one
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I had zero faith in our chances today. This team has zero toughness.
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Hell we can’t even run down the floor without falling down.- - -Moore falls down - - Griffen happens a lot
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Another huge record going down this season
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This is not a top 25 team period
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Even the fans there expected this… no court storming
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@drgnslayr Finally , the officials had to plead for them not to
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We played hard until the end and they had 13 threes and 4 or so were BS makes. Not our day and it hurts a because it’s K-State.
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Sum is less than the sum of its parts.
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My question is for all the Self homers, Fran was talking about how KSU was ready to play and we weren’t yet again. Isn’t it a job of the coaches to get the players ready to go?
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@kjayhawks You LISTEN to Fran ? - - I’m sorry bud
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It’s alright we had plenty of good shots not fall that normally would.
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@Zabudda said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
We played hard until the end and they had 13 threes and 4 or so were BS makes. Not our day and it hurts a because it’s K-State.
I don’t think we played super hard imo, they got about 85% of the 50-50 balls. We let up 50% shooting from the floor, that won’t win games on the road.
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When we had those games where we held teams to 20 per half it was because we brought defense… enough that it disrupted their flow and they then couldn’t hit wide open 3s. That’s not what I saw today. We came soft, we left soft.
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@SlimShaddy54 haha sparingly but it’s a fair question we come out with zero energy or bounce in our steps almost every game this season.
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@drgnslayr this team is arguably the softest of the Self era. The last two seasons will be less than .500 on the road
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God forbid we should ever match KSUs enthusiasm for our games…
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We rank 352/364 teams in Free Throws Attempted per game.
We rank 271/364 teams in 3 Pointers Attempted per game.
And we are not a particularly good 3pt shooting team or free throw shooting team. The offense is just not very good. It is what it is.
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@drgnslayr said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
God forbid we should ever match KSUs enthusiasm for our games…
That’s my biggest issue there is zero fight or willingness to be at the game most nights. Just show up and what happens happens
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@kjayhawks said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
My question is for all the Self homers, Fran was talking about how KSU was ready to play and we weren’t yet again. Isn’t it a job of the coaches to get the players ready to go?
This isn’t 100% Self. I have been very uninspired by the advanced scouting by the assistants and transfer market/high school scouting.
There needs to be changes on the bench after the season. Norm Roberts for sure I think should be replaced because he’s never been a strong recruiter, and after his stint as interim coach in 2023, I don’t think he should be retained. I’m also not fully sold on Jeremy Case as an assistant coach at this point.
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Last time we lost 3 years in a row @Kstate, I was in high school. It was the Ted Owens era.
And what I hate to think about is that the last time we won there was the year we won the National Championship… and does anyone remember that game? I think we were down by 25 at one point.
It could so easily be the 4th year in a row that we’ve lost there.
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It’s built to run through Hunter but he’s out on the trey line hoisting up bricks. But it finally paid off, he hit his first 3! Lol
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@kjayhawks plenty of blame to place all over. Like Seth Greenburg said earlier in the week we have a 7’2 Center that needs to plant his ass don’t low and stay the F - - - there dominate, and yet he thinks he is Steph Curry shooting three’s , w have guys that can’t even run down the floor without tripping over themselves and falling repeatedly, we have guys that if you say play some defense they will ask you if they can take a minute and look that word up in websters so they know what we mean. K/State close to half the time was taking whatever they wanted, like taking candy from a baby.
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@drgnslayr said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
It’s built to run through Hunter but he’s out on the trey line hoisting up bricks. But it finally paid off, he hit his first 3! Lol
It is designed with Hunter in mind, and I would prefer him down low, but it isn’t like we have a lot of other options. We have too many non-shooters on the team.
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Yeah I was talking more about the end. Storr and Rylan our gel guys had an off night from three 2/11 and are still not there or here or somewhere but it was just a bad shooting game but Storr made nice things happen.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I agree 100% buddy
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@Texas-Hawk-10 100%! Only problem is Self values seniority in his coaches like he does his players.
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Hunter missed a bunch of close in. When you get a good look and it fizzles it hurts plus they can get out and run.
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@drgnslayr I truly think that for some reason when it comes to K/State for some reason I think there are guys on this team that really feels that we are just BETTER and we can take over when ever and have such a non cholent approach it’s really pathetic bottom line is this is just a very average team, can be fairly good but then times where we are just butt ugly
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@Zabudda said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
Hunter missed a bunch of close in. When you get a good look and it fizzles it hurts plus they can get out and run.
Hunter was 8/16 with 21 points, 9 rebounds, and 4 assists. Offensively, he is not the problem.
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@SlimShaddy54 I think we have players that think that regardless who we play.
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@Zabudda said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
Hunter missed a bunch of close in. When you get a good look and it fizzles it hurts plus they can get out and run.
KU gave up 81 points and you’re still trying g to place blame on the offense? KU shot 50% from the field today. Offense wasn’t the issue. You can’t give up 81 points and expect to win very many games.
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@drgnslayr me too buddy , me too
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Now before anyone says anything I guess were not the only fans who probably pretty upset on the year.— Gonzaga sure not typical Gonzaga year- —Oh Hurley U Conn for sure not a typical U Conn year- -doesn’t make it any better , cause I could give a rats ass just sayin
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@kjayhawks said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
My question is for all the Self homers, Fran was talking about how KSU was ready to play and we weren’t yet again. Isn’t it a job of the coaches to get the players ready to go?
My god you’re going to be insufferable when we are even less consistent after the Self era. I’m not in the camp of “he can do no wrong.” But bad seasons happen everywhere. We are actually fortunate our “down season” is like a 5-seed in the tourney.
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@drgnslayr said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
It’s built to run through Hunter but he’s out on the trey line hoisting up bricks. But it finally paid off, he hit his first 3! Lol
I don’t like Hunt out there shooting 3s and I we know will miss Juan at times next season especially with Jackson not being able to practice or play for experience. But I won’t harp on Hunt a ton for this because so many of his teammates like Juan are too scared to shoot it. Juan was 0-1 from distance today but he could easily shot 5 of them. Dribble in circles and don’t look to score isn’t my idea of great offense. We have seen some great pass first point guards in this conference. Prime example tho I hate him is Doug Gottlieb. He didn’t look to score but averaged dang near 9 assists per game as a junior and senior. Im fine if Juan doesn’t shoot the ball but he’s need sit be getting 8 plus assists and completely shutting down the other side.
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If we had humble teams, our guys would come ready… especially for in-state rivalries. I constantly gripe about our guys not ready to play. All our guys are jamming on their AirPods until game time. Meanwhile, Tang and troops were already in a huge sweat from team chants!
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@Kcmatt7 we are currently on our third in a row in terms of bad seasons. If this was an outliner I’d be fine with it. It’s becoming the new norm
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@Kcmatt7 at this point right now after today if the tourney started we would more likely be looking towards a seven seed
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@kjayhawks I bet a million dollars Juan was jamming on his AirPods right before the game. He completely was unprepared to play. 3 fouls in 4 minutes?
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@drgnslayr said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
@kjayhawks I bet a million dollars Juan was jamming on his AirPods right before the game. He completely was unprepared to play. 3 fouls in 4 minutes?
Ya idk 2 of his fouls we freshman level mistakes for 6th year guy so idk. Definitely would’ve helps to have on the floor more defensively I believe
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@drgnslayr I refer back to my last reply to you, and your right-- they don’t feel the need of any urgency
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Here is an idea for Self… no electronics on game day! Make them stay connected to the team and stay plugged in!
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We are going to end the Season with at least eight losses. we have still to play three game stretch of Texas Tech-- - Arizona-- - And Houston oh boy
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@Kcmatt7 I guess I’m just having doubts that this season is an outliner like you claim. Last year Bill Self had his only season at Kansas with 11 loses and a losing road record. This season is headed in the exact same direction with 7 losses and a 3-5 road record currently. I’m gonna highly doubt we win 3 of our next 4 on the road at this point. I guess it depends on how you want to look at it. With the 2018 season being vacated, we have made it out of the first weekend of the NCAAs a single time since then. One time that’s it, if you want to count 2018 still one time in 6 years isn’t good. That one time was by the hair of our chins tho the final result was good.
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Invest in Darryn Peterson and the kids next year. This group doesn’t have “it”.
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Kj -35 minutes and 5 boards
Flory - 16 minutes and 4 boards
Sucks being right when I was hoping I’d be wrong. Dolla Bill can’t elevate the true talent he has and it limits so many of his teams. Caught up with him these past 3 years……as he stuck with “his guys”
But hey let’s blame the assistants not the guy who the buck stops with
