West Virginia- a game finally
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Bill’s response when asked about what he saw from AJ Sorr & Rylan Griffen after the WV game — I didn’t see much. Well hell no Coach you sure didn’t see much when you had their ass on the bench for 3/4 of the game. Hard to see anything when it’s like that unless you lean forward and stretch your neck and look down towards the end of the bench
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Looking like 3 seasons of Bill coddling KJ and dajuan and three seasons of second round exits. Thankfully next season we’ll have the top 5 pick echelon level of talent that we haven’t seen in years and hopefully Bill remembers that spacing is important.
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@kuballin10 said in West Virginia- a game finally:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in West Virginia- a game finally:
– If this were baseball … it’s time to send Storr and Griffen to outright waivers. Would we miss them? Not tonight for sure. What purpose do they serve? They are stiff as boards and shit their pants every time they get in the game.
Storr - 2nd team all big 10 averaging 17 a game
Griffen - third leading scorer at 11 ppg on a final 4 team last year
They now look like they’ve suddenly forgotten how to play basketball……this has been a theme with transfers so is it the transfer who’s the issue or the coach?
Answer is plain as day but homers don’t want to admit it
lol lol lol. All transfers to KU suck! (Omits the two leading scorers from the team.)
I’m not 100% sure why, but the meltdown on here is so humorous to me. People losing their shit over something completely unimportant (entertainment) just warms my heart to know you’re all in such a good place that this little unimportant stuff matters so much to ya. Happy days, happy new year!!!
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@kjayhawks said in West Virginia- a game finally:
People continue to roast Bill on Twitter/X for continuing to defend KJ and play him as much. He said the last play was drawn up for KJ (stupid). He defended KJ saying he just had a bad game and then threw Storr and Griffen under the bus. Hes gonna lose this team if he already hasn’t. If he has any coaching sense he’d start the two of them and actually let them play thru those mistakes like he does KJ, Juan and Hunt.
He’s lost this group. And I can’t blame the transfers. You miss one defensive rotation or jumpshot and you’re pulled. KJ gets to go out there and put out a prime Matt Kleinman stat line and gets to play 25 minutes no matter what.
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Upon further review…there were two bright spots last night. Zeke and Flory.
Bidunga was great. (I’m ignoring that last second freshman mistake)
Love his energy and enthusiasm.
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I’m just not sure that KJ over Flory is a winner. We put KJ and Hunter and together and we get Hunter trying to scramble back from the top of the key to cover the easy layups. It’s been a disaster and KJ and Flory together we get the same damn thing, And as opponents get so many easy shots they could get more. WVU could have been up by over 20 instead of 15 in the first half. Also we are last in the conference in giving up offensive rebounds. When we had Hunt and Flory together we owned the glass. Flory is a freak on defense. Did you watch him smother whomever was his man? He played belly button to belly button with athletic guards even better than KJ does. He showed us and them and the guards didn’t know how to react to that 7’2" wingspan who is quicker than they are. We lost the game when he was pulled out and that’s the truth. Hunter was able to play down low and get in position to rebound and when he gets that position he is in his element and he can be his bad ass self. We are wasting a guy who is a preseason first team AA selection. He gets the board and is as good as it gets making the outlet pass. Flory even showed a couple of nifty moves on offense. It looks like we are setting up Hunter for failure. KJ averages 9 pts on 55% shooting and Flory averages 6 pts on 82.9%. KJ averages 29.4 minutes per game to Flory’s 12.6 minutes per game. Teams are making a joke of our defense and we are playing hard.
Juan on point, Zeke as the #2, a big guard ScorrGriftPassShak at the #3, LeFreak at the #4 and the Big Game Hunter.
We have to make 9 to 12 threes per game to be a top seed. Winning the 16 team conference is good but we are looking for bigger things aren’t we?
Happy New Year my peeps.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in West Virginia- a game finally:
Upon further review…there were two bright spots last night. Zeke and Flory.
Bidunga was great. (I’m ignoring that last second freshman mistake)
Love his energy and enthusiasm.
How Flory reacted to getting faked out was very telling. He pressed his lips together and walked away. No bull no poor me just acceptance.
I could question that call. Flory went straight up and the dude literally lunged under him from a long ass way away. An offensive foul move if I’ve ever seen one. Try that with Hunter or Charles Barkley and you could be on your way to the Medical Center. I wouldn’t wish anything serious just a 48 hour observation and safely back to Morgantown which is known as a party town at the downtown strip. Sounds familiar somehow,
On our way to UCF and remembering we are two and three in our last five games. Need a win against a good offensive team.
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You are welcome! Ha.
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@dylans 20-14 in the year of 2024 and a losing record in big 12 play but yeah keep thinking it is humorous
We are becoming Indiana right before your eyes but you won’t see it until it’s too late - suit yourself
Hunter hasn’t ever won anywhere he’s been and now I can see why because he can’t defend, block shots or board anything outside his 2 inch vert
Mayo turns it over but he boards better than our 4 man and has taken to it because he has a longer leash. Took Bill a few games to figure this out
If you are a transfer that comes here and doesn’t play D according to Bills trash standard (see our ratings for the last 7 years) than you get the quick hook and no leash
Offense wins in todays basketball and Bill’s methods on both sides of the ball suck
Dude wants to play 3 bigs…can’t be more disconnected from todays game and reality than that even if it was in jest……he’s more apt to do that vs 4 guards around Bidunga
Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Roll the core 3 and every dumb KU fan in his moms basement said “yeah that won’t work” - Bill - “I’m smarter than you I’ll prove it” - gonna result in 3 straight 2nd round losses and 5/7 years with multiple blowouts of 25-35 points in the ncaa tourney and more talk or “we uh uh gotta get more athletic and longer” #leveluphellnoleveldowndumb@$$
Bills wrong but he values crap that doesn’t translate to the highest level of basketball
There’s a reason why we get down and then start to fastbreak and go figure we come back
Bill wants no easy baskets yet gives up dunk after dunk as guards hammer hunter on the pick and roll. He’s going against his own principles but is too stubborn ane sawft to change
Same when we throw it inside and Hunter has the ball STICK and NO ONE CUTS OR MOVES!!! Trash 1980’s offense
Bill slows the game down and limits possessions which has been proven how you keep good teams in games as they want to limit possessions….common practice for any sport when you aren’t as talented and can’t score with another team.
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Yesterday and the two road games are just proof we need to temper expectations way back from what we’ve become spoiled with under Self. This group has taken a step back even from last years struggles. The offense doesn’t look like it can compete, guys don’t make shots they should and the way we generate offense is predictable and very easy to scheme against.
We lost to a team at home that was down 2 key starters. Yikes
I’m not sure a team has been further away from the standard then this group looks.
Zeke and Flory were real bright spots. We don’t run enough offense through Zeke and Flory showed that he really can impact the game when he’s on. Most impressive was watching him defend on the perimeter at that size, he’s got a chance to be special.
Ball screen defense was exposed in a bad way. I can’t understand why they think hunter 30 feet from the basket is a good option. There’s tons of film proving otherwise. Drop coverage seems like something to explore.
Yesterday was about as bad as I’ve ever seen at home win/lose. Not good. Maybe in February this group will figure it out.
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I am actually for real beginning to think , these kids coming in from the portal , Rylan , AJ , not that long ago Joe Y-- - when they come in Bill just scares the crap out of them, shell shock, he has to loosen up some, These kids if they make a mistake they are out- - that’s how Bill looking at it, gets these kids so focused and tight they are afraid and over, think so worried about making a mistake and getting yanked They can feel Coach glaring at them like a Vulture just waiting it seems, they play scared shitless. I think Bill needs to relax some, the kid makes a mistake , let him play through it, put it in the past and go on let him play through - He already knows he made the mistake, he is getting on himself already, but right now they make the mistake and it becomes for him WELP i’M DONE look over see Coach’s face bright crimson red-- that destroys a kids self esteem confidence more then anything. Just let it go play that the mistake not become Two mistakes.
We need to loosen the reins and let these guys go - let them run. Anybody remember how Roy would have us running up , up tempo so much go - -go- -go. -You think I’m blowing smoke out my ass? - -Looked to me like in the Game Joe sure wasn’t feeling that heat like when he was here.— Drained the two three’s he took, stole the ball-- relaxed. Didn’t have to worry about the lightning hook if he made a mistake -I’m tellin you, you got to just let them play free
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@SlimShaddy54 Glad you are coming on board
He always has the quick hook with certain players and not with others
And who he trusts and allows that longer leash to has always been the guys that lower the ceiling of the team each year
It’s been so bassackwards for decades it is finally catching up with him because ncaa allowed the super seniors ect
His decision making for who he grants trust and who he doesn’t has been proven poor
Lastly, you are 100% correct if you’ve played any competitive sport at any level. If you know that if you make 1 mistake you are put on the bench you play tentatively the entire time trying not to mess up
No one plays an entire game without making a mistake so it’s comically bad how he operates
Bill made his bed and now gets to lie in it with his pathetic coaching thought process
People see results but ignore the ncaa’s because “it’s luck”……we had luck help us once and we haven’t made our luck much because of his high low trash offense and horrible defensive principles that don’t work in 2024
If it weren’t for kalkebrenner getting hurt 2022 doesn’t happen same with bacot. Even Self has admitted 2022 “everything lined up for us”…
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Honestly, I’m about to throw in the towel. Not just on KU, but all college sports. It’s all out of control and nobody gives a crap. Someone asked when KU’s next game was and I said “who cares”?
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A recent championship helps me to maintain some perspective on this. I’m not nearly smart enough to know what the deal with Storr and Griffen is. Of course I saw a lot of AJ and he was a dynamic scorer for the Badgers. Would you take that if his defense still sucked? We needed more scoring yesterday to make up for the no one guard the lane defense we played.
Thanks for the perspective @dylans !!
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@wissox AJ played 2 more mins than Joe Yesafu. Joe was a -1 scored 6 pts, 1 board and 1 steal. AJ -14, nothing. AJ 15:23 joe 13:25.
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Didn’t feel like AJ played that much. I remember a missed corner open 3 and then did absolutely nothing else which is why he sat I guess… 15 minutes and zero stats besides 2 missed shots. That’s usually not going to work for any coach and certainly not for Self. Got the start and that’s the response so yeah, not a good look. Got called out in the post-game so I’d expect Sunday to see a more engaged player?
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A few streaks were broken and I guess they were bound to be at some point…
West Virginia was 0-11 in Allen coming in, we’ve certainly had some epic comebacks against them at home to keep it going and a first-year coach got them over the hump. How fitting.
33-year streak of winning the conference opener was broken. This one stings given how poorly the team played. Shocking this team didn’t get up for a conference opener at home. December was a bad month for this team.
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Wait for the next 4 with 3 of them on the road.
If we don’t win at ucf we will start conference play 1-4
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I’m glad they lost. That uninspired effort deserves a L. Now learn from it and move on.
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@dylans It isn’t uninspired……the team lead by 3 guys is going on another season of the exact same L’s
They just aren’t that good is the reality
I think they could be decent but the HOF coach isn’t maximizing his players and playing to their strengths let alone playing the right players to their potential….
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@BeddieKU23 Maybe if you see him at all- - I think he is digging that deep dog house with Self going to be hard to get out
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I think we have seen the days where Ku has run rough shod over the Big twelve is done- - those days are over
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@SlimShaddy54 It’s something fans hold dear but truly is meaningless
People say hey it shows consistent winning but based on other big 12 teams not doing anything in the tourney 90% of the years it was a step up from what we hammer Gonzaga over dominating a weak conference
I’d trade the streak for 1-2 more titles without blinking an eye
Titles are all that matter
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@kuballin10 i think we made a false dichotomy around that one. “Trading” the streak for titles was never on the table. We won the conference in 2008, 2012 and 2022.
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TEMPO - What’s that? We don’t know because we aren’t aware of it. I was so optimistic for a couple early games when we ran… we literally got our shots up within about 5 seconds. Everyone was in full sprint. We even started games in a press. Use all those bodies!
STRENGTH vs WEAKNESS - Quit trying to force a style of play that clearly isn’t working. All those transfers had good numbers before arriving. Watch their past games and feed to their strengths. Create conditions they already know and make them feel comfortable.
JUAN - his strength is running an offense with structure, spacing, and timing. Handing him the ball and telling him to make magic doesn’t work.
KJ - he needs a male mentor to kick his ass. He doesn’t have a dad in his life… right? Someone has to make him into an alpha or he has ruined any professional ball ambitions he might have.
HUNTER - didn’t think we could find a big with worse feet than McCormick… but we did. He shouldn’t be allowed to step outside the paint on either side of the ball.
ZEKE - make him into a volume scorer. Set picks for him and run clear outs. Give him the ball and let him know none of his shots are bad shots. Get him up around 30 per game. Then start feeding others as he draws double teams.
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KJ has a dad, his mom died from cancer last yr right before the maui tourney.
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@kuballin10 said in West Virginia- a game finally:
@dylans It isn’t uninspired……the team lead by 3 guys is going on another season of the exact same L’s
They just aren’t that good is the reality
I think they could be decent but the HOF coach isn’t maximizing his players and playing to their strengths let alone playing the right players to their potential….
Bless your heart.
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@approxinfinity said in West Virginia- a game finally:
@kuballin10 i think we made a false dichotomy around that one. “Trading” the streak for titles was never on the table. We won the conference in 2008, 2012 and 2022.
The lose the conference to win a national championship was the dumbest argument I’ve ever heard. Total loser mentality - could not handle the stress of winning. I can’t believe that anyone as seemingly knowledgeable about the game as posters on here would die on that hill and yet they did.
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@SlimShaddy54 said in West Virginia- a game finally:
I think we have seen the days where Ku has run rough shod over the Big twelve is done- - those days are over
The 12 year win streak wasn’t due to anything other than being adidas flagship program at a time other schools were less willing to pay their players than KU, Duke, and Kentucky were. More talent due to a bigger investment (cheating better) but the table has been leveled and the transfer portal makes it hard to retain all the talent.
When is the last time you can think of a team, not in a poor conference like Gonzaga, that won the conference more than 2 years in a row? It just doesn’t happen often and with the transfer market/player movement the way it is, it’s not likely to happen again.
Let’s calla spade a spade. The recruiting scene has changed - the NCAA witch hunt cooled recruiting and the rule change reduced KUs advantage.
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@kuballin10 said in West Virginia- a game finally:
@SlimShaddy54 It’s something fans hold dear but truly is meaningless
People say hey it shows consistent winning but based on other big 12 teams not doing anything in the tourney 90% of the years it was a step up from what we hammer Gonzaga over dominating a weak conference
I’d trade the streak for 1-2 more titles without blinking an eye
Titles are all that matter
If KU was undefeated at this moment none of us would have heard a pep from you. That matters
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@dylans bless your heart….
You are like a talking parrot that repeats the same thought over and over
For proof yet again and I’ll repeat myself….please reference my posts during the Duke game this year as they were all positive and @approxinfinity can attest
I talk about the team but I heavily weight big games or when they play bad
When we play some crappy big 12 school at home and roll or some non con average team and roll that doesn’t show me anything. Opponent strength matters….
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@kuballin10 said in West Virginia- a game finally:
@dylans bless your heart….
You are like a talking parrot that repeats the same thought over and over
Pot meet kettle
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Haha as I was typing that I was thinking about what you’d say cause I’ve harped over and over about DeJuan
- pot has met kettle for sure!I can take a ribbing so keep it coming
Boards are to talk about the squad, bs back and forth but I never take it too seriously even when I’m ticked at Self
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@kuballin10 problem with what you do is you kill any legitimate conversation because you derail just about every conversation you join by repeating your same points ad nauseum to anyone who has a different opinion than you. It’s killed a lot of the legitimate conversations here because people are tired of you derailing every conversation back to your difference of opinions on Self’s approach.
You like to repeat how much Self got lucky in 2022. Remy didn’t do what he did in 2022 until after he finally bought into Self’s plan and vision and that’s when Self finally started trusting Remy on the floor amd giving him extended minutes. That’s what everyone is waiting for with Griffen and Storr, particularly Storr. I just don’t see it ever happening with Storr because I’ve said from day 1 of him committing that he was a bad fit at Kansas because he’s a Temu version James Harden and that style of player doesn’t work in Self’s system.
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@dylans said in West Virginia- a game finally:
“If KU was undefeated at this moment none of us would have heard a peep from [kuballin].”
I have accomplished that blissful omission of all those peeps by simply pressing that magical button @approx has graciously supplied us. More certain than better W/L!
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It’s feeling pretty dark post Christmas this year. Hope we can find stuff to feel good and engaged about.
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What are the odds of KJ starting against UCF? 100% 200%. We have a 7’2" center who can operate but he is being triple or quadrupled guarded or trapping with Juan beyond the three point line. That’s with KJ on the floor. We saw what happened with Flory in the game. Everything changed for the better. No second chance opportunities, No triple teams. No effective penetrations. It made it possible to release the Kraken. There is no other player like Flory there just isn’t. KJ is foul prone and so in Hunt but Hunt isn’t foul prone with Flory with him on the floor. AJ and Rylan are butterflies at this point but Bill has to change and park one of his beloved guys. The status quo is a losing painful to watch season. What are the odds Bill will change about this? Zero or negative prime of a gross?
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@Zabudda Flory will start by end of year.
This is the way.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I just argue my point and people can’t argue back so they either name call, or block me.
The ad nauseam comment is I’d say due to the exact same style of playing for two years with the with minimal adjustments or minutes changes. The adjustments that have been made aren’t working and our hof coach is on the sidelines looking dumbfounded because he can’t figure it out.
How did Remy buy-in in your mind?
He didn’t play any different D than he did earlier in the season. What happened just like many years is the offense stalled because of the archaic positioning of players and Remy came in and showed he can get his shot off and create offense when Self’s fails. Very much Mahomes to Andy Reid….when the play breaks down Mahomes just overcomes it
Remy showed this in big 12 play and his offense not defense is what helped us and continued through March.
He had 1 game saving block but if you watch his defense he’s very jitterbug like - like coit or Yesufu. He was never some outstanding defender and even in the replay of those games he had missed assignments….
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@approxinfinity For who? If you say KJ I’m going to laugh :)! Self will never I repeat never sit KJ and we all know it
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@kuballin10 yep KJ. If only Bidunga had Tarik Black ahead of him on the depth chart…
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@kuballin10 Remy bought into on offense and finally understood his role on the offensive side and where to be on the floor. There were quite a few times that season where Remy ruined end of half or end of game plays because he didn’t understand what his role in those situations were and he would bring an extra defender with him into the set play and ruined what KU was trying to run for Ochai or Braun.
That’s where AJ Storr is right now. If we talk about Self’s offense being too complicated, then why have there been plenty of other newcomers that haven’t had the same struggles that Griffen and Storr have had? Zeke Mayo is a newcomer just like Griffen and Storr so why hasn’t he had the same struggles or leash as those two?
Two years ago, why did Gradey Dick or Kevin McCullar not have that same short leash that Yesufu, Udeh, or Ejiofor had?
It’s not about Self being blindly loyal to players like you claim, it’s about players understanding where they are supposed be on the floor together create the best opportunities possible for the offense and defense to work. We saw that with Bidunga on Tuesday in the second half until fouls dictated his substitution patterns and that Self left KJ on the bench. Flory just isn’t consistent yet, but it’s obvious the light is coming on for him.
Storr and Griffen aren’t there yet, but Mayo is.
People keep talking about Storr’s mind being messed up right now. Storr absolutely has the physical tools to play in the NBA, but he doesn’t have the mentality to make the NBA yet. There’s a reason he’s in his 3rd year of college instead of the NBA despite his physical tools. Storr needed to be mentally broken to get to the next level and that’s what we’re seeing right now. Is AJ Storr patient enough and tough enough to allow Self to finish rebuilding AJ’s mentality to get AJ where he wants to be?
Rylan Griffen is a different story. I believe many people here overhyped or overvalued Griffen’s talent simply because he was a starter on a Final Four team. Reality is Griffen was the 4th scoring option, had the lowest PER of any of Alabama’s rotation players, and was the second worst defender among their rotation players last season on a sub 100 ranked defense. Simply put, Rylan Griffen is a catch and shoot player who’s pretty much useless when he’s not making shots. Griffen was much more of a project player than what many here want to admit and we’re seeing that play out now with his inconsistencies.
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It is a bit shocking to me we are still tweaking with the starting lineup and playing 9-10 guys meaningful minutes during conference play.
Very not Bill Self.
On the bright side he hasn’t just gone to a 7 man rotation and is still pulling different strings
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@Zabudda Had to laugh. Media ask Self about the three bigs and if there was a chance of seeing more of Flory with Hunter, Bill says ya that’s a possibility , we just have to figure out a way to score – I guess he meant with that combo , well here is a news flash Coach , Flory with Hunter sure the hell can’t be any worse then KJ with Hunter with the scoring aspect of it.
I’d be willing too- -it will never hsppen BUT I’d be willing to bet the farm if you put Flory on the floor and had him play the amount of minutes KJ is playing right now I’d bet you anything that Flory would dam sure be putting up better scoring numbers then KJ-- 7 bet you again he would make KJ look silly in the amount of rebounds he would get over KJ if he was getting KJ’s minutes. Flory wants every rebound if he can. Give that kid the rest of this year and like possibly 1/2 of next , he is going to be really good j
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I agree with most of your assessment but Remy is so hard to compare with anyone with not only how good he was but him being hurt and missing basically 2 months in the middle of the season. I compare coaching to parenting in a lot of ways. I believe it helped me parent being a HS assistant and coaching rec league for my nieces and nephews. I can’t imagine not getting mad at one of my kids if they played with a lighter and burned my house down. Then beating one kids ass red if they spilled a glass of milk.
Hunter, KJ and Juan never get pulled for mistakes no matter if it’s major or minor. I feel like Coit and Mayo don’t get pulled unless it’s major. Now AJ, Rylan and Flory they get pulled instantly regardless of the level of mistake. I’m fine with that being the case with Flory because he’s a freshman. The other two you can’t treat like freshman because they aren’t. They have played a lot of ball at the power 5 level. They should be allowed to screw up like everyone else seems to be.
The best chance this team has is to bench KJ and start AJ/Rylan. KJ is the same exact player he was 3 years ago he’s stats are looking like this will far and away be his worst year as a starter. I love KJ and think he’s a good dude but the best players should play. Spread the floor with Mayo, Rylan and AJ. Then you have room for big Hunt to operate. I have no problem with Self trying to break the colts a little bit but at some point we have who we have and this is our best line up.
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Zeke plays with poise… he assesses the situation and finds ways to help his team. This is not just because he knows spacing. AJ/Rylan are thinking too much, hence they play slow until they commit on a move. Zeke is completely untethered from thought. It is a joy watching him play, and a pity other guys can’t pick up on his poise and apply it, too.
Self should ask Hunter and Flory the same question… “Are you willing to stay in the low block and fight it out for positioning, rebounds, and shot selection?” Hunter is more gifted at low post scoring, but if he doesn’t apply himself it doesn’t translate to the stat sheet. Flory brings energy. It’s the energy many people thought KJ used to have. KJ was never much of an energy guy. People thought that because he has monster slams. Energy guys get rebounds, even if they are small guys (Zeke).
Hunter needs to always have a foot in the paint. He offers nothing when he’s not there. Flory… just needs to play from half-court to under the basket… the guy has a motor, speed, and enthusiasm!
I would now bring KJ off the bench. See if we can get him inspired to fight for minutes.
We should run more scoring plays for our guards not named Harris. This will help Harris’ esteem because he’ll go back to doing what he knows… being the assist leader.
This team has bad body language right now. Self has to find a way to get these guys jacked up. He’s never been that type of coach and I’ve been amazed how many wins he has without playing the role of cheerleader.
I wonder if there is some active dissent within the players. This is not a group of guys who seem like best friends, and friends with their coaches. There is ZERO team playing shining through.
My expectations for this team are quite low now. I see a middle-of-the-pack team in B12 standings. If a few things went wrong even worse, we could miss March Madness.
There are so many things wrong… but as Self said… all those things are magnified when you play with no energy. He has to take responsibility for this… it is part of the responsibilities of the coaches. Right now I’d like to trade 20% of Self for 20% of Shaka Smart.
Meanwhile… ISU is looking legit! Coach Ox seems to know how to make the transfer portal work for him.
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AJ and Rylan are not playing good basketball and they are causing our struggles. They are not the only factors but are the biggest factors by far. I find that fact to be obvious. Is there anyone who disagrees?
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@Jhawk69 said in West Virginia- a game finally:
AJ and Rylan are not playing good basketball and they are causing our struggles. They are not the only factors but are the biggest factors by far. I find that fact to be obvious. Is there anyone who disagrees?
I really think the three of KJ, AJ and Griffey are the main issues.
KJ has been a total non-threat offensively. The other two have not been very good. Flory and Coit need more run with how things are going.
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The last game i coached last year was against an aau team with my 15 year old rec boys. We were down by 4 i think at half. Second half the aau guys shot about 5o% from three and there was nothing we could do. They practiced every day. We didnt. They shot 3s way way better than us because thats all they did.
Bidunga needs to be the only dude who cant shoot the 3 on the floor.
