KU vs Duke Game Thread
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KJ Adams is the G-D man tonight. Owned Flagg tonight on defense. Dejuan owned Flagg on offense. Flagg couldn’t do anything to stop Dejaun getting to the rim and causing chaos all night.
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This is also the best KU game I’ve been to in person. The only other contender is the 2020 Baylor game in Waco when Baylor was #1 and KU was #3.
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To paraphrase LSU, SUCK THAT JAYHAWK D*** DOOK
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@FarmerJayhawk there you are. You were quiet tonight!
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@Texas-Hawk-10 you weren’t at the last mizzou v ku game in the phog? My condolences.
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@PharmacyHawk yep! Out with friends and I try to stay off my phone
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@FarmerJayhawk fair enough. All my “friends” are too busy being adults with their wives/families. Gross, right?
Edit: kidding of course all
Happy Thanksgiving Jayhawks.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m glad you experienced that game in person!
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Cooper is a baller. No doubt. But he’s 17 and he’s already choked twice now! He will no doubt choke in March, too, because he’s a friggin’ kid.
He’s “fool’s gold” for Duke. Everything rides on him. I prefer our team full of experienced players and a 5-year PG who already has a ring.
Scheyer is Calipari2. Speaking of Calipari… I’ve heard the first “buyer’s remorse” is going down in Hogtown! I’m shocked! lol
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Bucketeer of the day award to @Texas-Hawk-10 for cheering them on to victory!!
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Just read something funny. For the Champions classic ESPN’s matchup predictor gave Duke a 70% chance to beat Kentucky. Tonight it was a 69% chance for them to beat us.
Ya’ll know how those two games worked out for duke?
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@wissox One win away from evening up the all time series.
Edit: off topic but Auburn looks good. Hyper athletic.
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Lost my mind on that flagrant call on Hunter. Miraculous win and probably one that was not appreciated by all those who thought they had paid enough $$$ to the refs.
How do refs spend 5 minutes to make the wrong call? I mean, on that play alone, the more dangerous and intentional foul was the Duke player undercutting HD when he was going up for the rebound. When a 7’ 2" guy comes down ass over tea kettle, it’s not that surprising that arms and legs come down awkwardly.
Fran et al. idiots @ espn thought it “seemed” like it was intentional. That’s not the rule. Flagrant 2 is for punches and kicks. Not a foot coming down on another player who cut his legs out from under him. And the nonsense about “reputation” has got to get vetted. Are the refs there to punish players? Are they there to teach someone a lesson —looking for an opportunity to make a point?
A B S O L U T E G A R B A G E O F F I C I A T I N G.
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@bskeet Hunt was hacked all night. I do think he started to force the issue, and the “kick” may have been out of frustration, but egregious and worthy of ejection? No shot. The aftermath where the officials tried to reestablish control where they actually started calling fouls pissed me off more to be honest. I hate when you call a game differently half way through.
It may have worked out in our favor in the end though. Flory got some great big time minutes and the team responded. It may end up being some of that identity and resilience a team searches for.
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@PharmacyHawk Silver linings… Perhaps.
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@MoonwalkMafia good to hear from you!
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@wissox he’s a lucky guy!
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@FarmerJayhawk thoughts on flagrant 2 call?
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@drgnslayr I’d like to see a replay of him and the Mrs rat face riding off in the sunset in the back of the cart after his last loss! 🥲
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@Crimsonorblue22 absolutely absurd. Never seen anything like it. Take 5 minutes at the monitor to toss a guy for at most an flagrant 1
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@FarmerJayhawk just like the out of bounds review that took forever. Please put a time limit on reviews, if it’s not clear in a couple minutes. It can not be considered conclusive IMO
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Interesting I was looking at KenPom this morning to see if we moved up at all with DooK being ahead of us before last nights game…We did not and according to them Dook is one of the unluckiest teams this year. I’d love to hear an explanation of that one of our starters is toss after a weak call with 10 minutes to go but they aren’t lucky lmao
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I agree Hunter should of ben called for a flagrant - -but a flagrant 2 ? come on now , let’s be real. First of all the kid from Duke like they said was a clear undercut , which could of caused injury to Hunter - -Hunter reacted , I had just said one of these times Hunter is going to get us in trouble and it’s going to cost us BUT to be ejected think extreme flagrant 2— think that’s a little much.
Who knows though in the over all grand scheme of things might of ben really beneficial for us, seeing how the team pulled together even more. Some big plays by KU players after that stretch KJ hit like three big buckets, and really strong defense, Zeke hitting a big bucket when it seemed the ball bounced on the rim and finally in forever , Rylan hitting two huge buckets and making those two free throws late –
These guys showed up , some real toughness in a bad spot by losing Hunter -they showed me some toughness for sure last night. For me KJ’s defense on Flagg last night was really good, and yet he did so many other things Juan stating KJ can guard 1-5 and yet 8 points ( ya I know )- -it was 8 points but at key time of game late 3 steals , 3 blocks , and 3 assists - - – looks fine to me and yet we gonna have ( Haters gonna hate )
I will say this checking the box score , KU had 10 offensive rebounds this game – dam when is the last time we have done that – good job. – KU out rebounded Duke against that taller line up another Good job-- now on to our next game -
Dam wish we could get Sauq healthy we need more back up for Juan. - -36 minutes last night
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Duke got 9 fouls out of their bench. Hack city.
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@approxinfinity It was interesting after the ejection that the zebras started making up and we got the preponderance of the whistles after that.
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By the way, Grayson Allen was never ejected from a game.
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During this early round match between Dickinson and #5 Duke with world #1 Dickinson up 2 love and serving, (announcer) Oh my: a foot fault, (Fran McEnroe) That was called a flagrant 2 foot fault, (announcer) I’ve never heard of that, (Fran) That’s okay I make shit up all the time.
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One more by the way. Looking at ESPN and the homepage for NCAAM has 5 videos from the game featured, 4 are of Duke, not all highlights, several turnovers/missed shots, but only 1 KU highlight, Griffens drive and 1.
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@wissox So, I am interested in your take on HD. I recall you didn’t like him after he stepped on the UW player when he was at UM, and you weren’tthrilled with him coming. Any sense of expecting dirty play from him to eventually happen? (Am I remembering this right?)
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Great game all around. The depth on this team is great to see. They have so many players that can actually play at this level, and contribute.
Tough day for the Juan and KJ haters. They were both just awesome.
Only “complaint” I have would be I was surprised Storr didn’t play down the stretch. He was playing great, and IMO he is the one guy that can create off the dribble for himself.
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Bill sent a reminder who the best coach in college basketball is last night.
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@BShark said in KU vs Duke Game Thread:
Bill sent a reminder who the best coach in college basketball is last night.
Hopefully everyone forgets and he reminds them in April
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I think Hunter was frustrated from missing the dunk plus four more in a row and the slappy pokey stuff all game. Then came the flagrant undercut which was so hard he hit Hunter and slid under him. The refs had let Duke grab pull on him every time. Hunter had just swung a get off me elbow on the initial put back attempt and the Duke center lost his cool and made a dangerous undercut move out of frustration. The following fouls that were called on Duke were uncalled fouls up to that point and Duke thought it would be business as usual. They pulled the same crap on Zona
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@PharmacyHawk said in KU vs Duke Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 you weren’t at the last mizzou v ku game in the phog? My condolences.
I graduated in 2010 and live in Houston. The games I typically make it to are the games at Baylor, TCU, Texas, and Texas A&M (when those two were still in the league). UH typically sells out before tickets before make it to public on sale including this year.
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Griffen made a miraculous late 2nd half surge. That shot at the end of the first half was criminal but he regrouped and made huge plays late when we needed them. Imagine if he starts putting both halves together like that.
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Did one of the announcers (Fran I think) state that Self has said “KJ is one of the best players we’ve ever had”? Ever.
Like it or not, KJ is going to get huge minutes all season as we all know. Personally I love the guy, and love watching him play d.
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I may be giddy and wrapped in the glow of victory but we have a decent chance to be 12-0 going into the new year. I think BPI gives us a 15% chance to win the conference with Houston the prohibitive favorite (before their AL loss). Current predictions are a conference Win/Loss of 14/6. It’s gonna be brutal. I would settle for 16/4 which is Houston’s projected record. I think this Duke/Dump has maybe put a championship gleam/glare into our players eyes. Maybe Bill is right about we are a work in progress but we have guards. Coit is ballsy.
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Flory brings a lot of energy to the floor. Yes, for sure he makes some Freshman mistakes, so much bounce he gets caught being out of position at times, he wants to block everything, having said that I think he is going to be a pretty good player when it’s all said and done.
I think he for sure is back for his Soph year, and unless he makes a HUGE jump he may even come back for his Jr year , how ever long it’s going to be fun to watch him develop
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Our guards and wings kicked their ass. Shout out to Flory too…he grew up last night.
Coach Self still has it
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Yeah KJ has his offensive deficiencies, but man does he make up for them with the rest of his game. Also nice to see Griffen step up a bit in the 2nd half after really struggling in the 1st.
Only negative from the game was that Hunter, even outside of the ejection, was playing a sloppy. I know he was getting hacked, but can’t let that seep into your decision making. I remember one specific possession where he got swiped at at the top of the 3 pt line and you could tell he was rattled from it because he immediately tried to drive and back down his man which isn’t his game at all. When that didn’t work he settled for a 15 ft fade away contested jumper with probably 15 sec left on the shot clock. Freshman level play there.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Ah, I graduated in 2013 so I got lucky on that front!
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@TYOHawk In his first stint off the bench during the second half we rebounded and took off he followed and looked ungainly and it occurred to me his ankle was stiff. When Hunter exited Flory didn’t show any effects and played his ass off like, it’s up to me. No fear. Love it.
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From a New York Times article about the game last night, focusing on KJ
“I think KJ showed a lot of people tonight that you can be an elite player at this level and not be a prolific scorer,” Kansas coach Bill Self said. “Because he did it all.”
An Elite player who does not score all that much, and doesn’t really rebound… but does a lot of great, tough things that coaches adore. Going to be an interesting senior night March 8th. Self absolutely LOVES his KJ.
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I was watching highlights on ESPN Sports center and I am not kidding folks.
It started by play where Hunt gets ejected and then during the entire clip, they did not show a single KU bucket, kept on showing points scored by Duke.
There were so many highlight plays made by KU but ESPN only showed Duke’s buckets.
Totally egregious.
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Even if they lose they have an agenda to prop them up.
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@BeddieKU23 Totally
It is insane
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@AsadZ egregious means “asshole-y”, right?
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@mayjay LOL, you and Crimson have a memory for everything people write! I think my reaction at the time might have been a little bit ‘oh no, this guy’s a loose cannon’. The ugly incident with him and Tyler Wahl had a lot of Badger fans seeing red. There already was some tension between the teams because of the Gard/Howard shoving match. When Hunter came to Madison a few weeks after the stomping incident he showed up with some sort of weird assassin mask on. I’d have to guess Bill Self wouldn’t put up with crap like that.
But I also remember writing here that we (ku) were getting a very good player who wasn’t in the current iteration of the NBA a big threat to leave for the league so I was glad we were getting him. Despite last nights results, we absolutely need him to win and I hope he never gets himself ejected even if it was a bit unjustified like last night.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 how was the atmosphere there?
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@Bosthawk said in KU vs Duke Game Thread:
Did one of the announcers (Fran I think) state that Self has said “KJ is one of the best players we’ve ever had”? Ever.
Like it or not, KJ is going to get huge minutes all season as we all know. Personally I love the guy, and love watching him play d.
I’ve heard Self on a podcast about 3 weeks ago compare KJ to Ochai in terms of impact.
