Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster
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@jayballer67 he’s not coming here. Honestly wouldn’t want him as a full time PG anyway. He’s talented, but not good enough to come in and run the show.
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Cough Acuff cough
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This move also makes me feel better about the defense. Moore is a super defender. You could have play he and Juan together when you just flat need a stop.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
This move also makes me feel better about the defense. Moore is a super defender. You could have play he and Juan together when you just flat need a stop.
Juan/Moore/Griffen/???/Not Hunter
Work in progress but we might be able to field a “get a stop” line-up.
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@BShark KJ/Flory at the 4/5? Idk.
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@BShark Perry recovered well and he did it here. My son had the KU surgeon. Elmarko’s young.
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@approxinfinity feel so bad for him. It’s an awful injury.
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@dylans said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Cough Acuff cough
ya hopefully would be nice. How did I forget about him . lol
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I had a complete quad tear in my early 60’s - it took a full year, but did get back to normal, and still playing sports. Patellar tear may be a different animal tho.
Actually, I looked up both, and looks like they have the same outcomes. With the right rehab regimen, Elmarko should recover well.
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@benshawks08 So he has to commit to an uncommitment so he can uncommit to commit?
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@Bosthawk he’ll have the best rehab. Hope they can get him to classes ok. Might have to skip the first summer school session.
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Well there ya go, the roster appears set.
Current likely depth chart. Positions a bit murky.
PG Harris — Moore — Mayo
SG Storr — Mayo — Passmore — McDowell
SF Griffen — Passmore
PF KJ — Clemence
C Dickinson — Bidunga — Clemence
Main Bench: Mayo — Passmore — Moore — Bidunga
Redshirt: Elmarko — Shelby
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What happens to Elmarko’s NIL?
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it becomes Next Invite Lucrativity?
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@mayjay said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
What happens to Elmarko’s NIL?
He will still get some money.
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I know sports med technology improves constantly. My injury was back in the mid-90s. I had a well-reputed sports specialist as my doctor/surgeon. He told me even before the surgery I would never return to 100% or even close. I wore a locked leg brace for 6 months. When it came off, I had zero quad muscle left… just a string. Took me a year just to walk without any hitch at all. I had constant PT for 2 years. I was mid-30s and playing semi-pro in The Netherlands at the time. Wouldn’t surprise me if every tendon rip injury is a bit unique, depending on how the tear is and other factors.
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Moore is a flat out upgrade to Elmarko but we would have been better with both. Elmarko’s upside was going to be a tantalizing part of this season but now Self has a grizzled vet from the SEC who offers more stability in his role on both ends. Moore can shoot and score at the rim and his defense will help a team that has plenty of questions on that end. It sounds like Moore was coming anyway before the injury so this definitely hits Self hard in him wanting 8 starters. Unless they kick the penalty to next yr he’s unlikely to get everything perfect. He can make do with this roster though and has no excuse
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Yea, the wing position has like zero depth at the moment, right? Passmore will have to get his shit together pretty quickly to help.
I haven’t really figured out what position Jamari fits into yet. Doesn’t really have the body for that spot yet.
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@rockchalkjayhawk KU’s at least two deep at every spot with most rotation guys able to play multiple spots.
Harris and Dickinson are probably the only two really locked into one spot on the floor and maybe Flory.
Mayo, McDowell, and Moore can all play the 1 and 2 spots. Mayo and McDowell should primarily be at the 2 when they’re in and Moore primarily at the 1, but Self could play those 3 at either spot if needed.
Griffen and Passmore can play the 2 or 3 spots.
Storr could play the 2-4 spots depending on what Self wants to run.
KJ and Clemence can play either front court spot if needed and I’m sure Self will experiment with Flory at the 4 in practice to see if he’s playable there, but I doubt his offense is good enough for that at this time.
Starting line up and 8 man rotation is likely to be Harris, Griffen, Storr, Adams, and Dickinson starting with Moore, Mayo subbing in the back court, and either Bidunga/Clemence in the front court off the bench. We probably won’t see both Griffen and Storr off the floor at the same time very often.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 u don’t think passmore will be in the rotation? Or as spellcheck keeps putting password.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@Texas-Hawk-10 u don’t think passmore will be in the rotation? Or as spellcheck keeps putting password.
We know Self loves his 8 man rotations, so who does Passmore beat out for those minutes? Griffen and Storr are both likely starting. Moore, even though he was brought in to back up Harris, will see plenty of time at the 2 because of his defense. That means that Passmore is essentially battling Zeke Mayo for those minutes and I don’t see Passmore beating out Mayo at this time.
I think Passmore will be a much bigger factor in the 2025-26 rotation as the main wing back up and possible starter if Storr or Griffen leave.
KU will have plenty of room for minutes in 2025-26 as KU is for sure losing Adams, Dickinson, Harris, Mayo, and Moore to eligibility after this season.
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I’m pretty excited to see how they play together under Self. I’m excited to see the rooks
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Flory is the 3rd highest ranked big man in the Self era behind Alexander and Diallo. Thats not great company but by the law of averages maybe he is great. Im looking forward to trusting the process.
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@approxinfinity Cliff would have been so good if he had been given better advice.
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We need a mentor mom program!
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@dylans said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@approxinfinity Cliff would have been so good if he had been given better advice.
Cliff was planning on coming back before all the stuff with his mom came out. His own mom is who screwed him over.
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Seems like he might have a better support system in place then those guys. Would be nice to see one of these stick around 1+ yr
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I think all the competition is going to be a good thing for us. Hustle will outdo “ranked” any day of the week for Self. I like that Passmore has a fight in him and wants to prove it. That old ‘chip on his shoulder’ that @drgnslayr
has always liked!Hope your all well. It’s going to be a great week to be in LFK to see all the players return for Roundball Classic
. Can’t wait to see the clips and posts.
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So whats the final roster look like now?
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@RockChalkinTexas I watched it on cox cable last night, meaning it’s probably on espn+. I think I finally cancelled mine till fb.
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Isn’t there a younger Braun still left? Wonder if Self would have him walk on. Don’t hear much about him, maybe he’s playing somewhere. Never mind, he’s going to university of Nebraska Omaha.
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I’m excited to see this team play and watch them come together throughout the season.
Are we playing abroad this summer? Any known scrimmages planned with another D1 team? Do I really have to wait until November? lol
Picked a tomato yesterday that looked like a basketball because of its scars… perhaps an omen!
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@drgnslayr we can’t play abroad for another couple years since we did last year. Also seems like Self has pivoted away from beating up on the MIAA schools twice to having a “secret” scrimmage and exhibition so I bet we’ll hear about that toward the fall.
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@FarmerJayhawk Any idea when KU is planning to announce the non-confernce portion of the basketball schedule? I know we know part of the schedule, but it’d be nice to know all of the non-conference schedule since it’s almost July. For comparison, KU announced their non-confernce schedule for the 2023-2= season on June 5 last year.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t, but it could be any time now. The year before it was late June if memory serves. Not sure if they’re waiting on some buy game contracts to get finalized or what
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@FarmerJayhawk - IIRC, that “beating up on MIAA schools” gave them most of the money for their athletic department budgets. That will be hard to replace if discontinued.
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@Gorilla72 it’s just scaled back to one per year instead of two I believe
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This NBA Draft feels so soft
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@approxinfinity said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
This NBA Draft feels so soft
Zach ?Edey at # 9 ? - I think is to high for him , can’t se him translating to that high of a pick
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@approxinfinity oh gawd it’s a real dumpster dive of a draft
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@approxinfinity said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
This NBA Draft feels so soft
This is considered one of the weakest drafts in recent history. Pretty much the only reason why Furphy and McCullar have any shot at being 1st round picks this year.
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As long as Furphy ends up avoiding New Orleans at 21 or Washington at 26 in the 1st round, he should end up in a pretty good situation where he’ll be on a good team and not counted on to be a major factor early on. That’ll give him time to develop which likely means spending a decent chunk of his rookie year in the G-League.
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I am personally happy with the Rockets pick getting Reed Shepherd. I don’t necessarily see him being the best in the draft, I think that’ll end up be Sarr or Holland, but Shepherd fills a big need for Houston as a shooter. If his defense is serviceable, Shepherd could turn into one of the top shooters in the league very quickly and make Jalen Green an expendable piece in a trade. The Rockets did offer Green as part of a package to the Nets for Bridges at the trade deadline last season, so he’s definitely not someone Houston is fully committed to at this point.
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Raptors next. Furphy and Dick?
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Nope.
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@approxinfinity said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Raptors next. Furphy and Dick?
Nope, Walter from Baylor. That wouldn’t be a great fit for Furphy because he’d be directly fighting with Dick for time.
Hopefully New Orleans looks elsewhere besides Furphy.
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Cleveland would’ve been a good fit for Furphy, but they went Jaylon Tyson from Cal instead.
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NO takes Missi from Baylor.
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If he goes second round did he get bad info?
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Almost certainly. Shoot even the NBA thought mid first
