McCullar out vs Baylor
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Self said after he didn’t know but that he definitely did something to it good. Tough kid so we shall see
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@kjayhawks said in McCullar out vs Baylor:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t remember that team having much of a bench at all with KJ Lawson, a D3 caliber player getting minutes. Vick was the best player on that team and Doke when he was healthy. That could’ve been a solid group had Vick not gone nuts and Doke gotten hurt. Those two things killed the depth.
That season was weird because KU had so many different starting line ups due to various issues. Marcus Garrett did come off the bench for most of the season. David McCormack came off the bench most of the season. Mitch Lightfoot and Charlie Moore were also main bench players.
I’m not going to claim that bench was among Self’s best, but it was better and deeper than this season’s bench.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Ya that team looked strong early on when everyone was healthy mentally and physically. Won the NIT vs Tennessee and Vick was a projected lottery pick. The injuries and Grimes, Vick flat out quitting on the team half way thru the season. I remember Charlie having some good games.
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@kjayhawks said in McCullar out vs Baylor:
Any news on Juan? I feel like Kevin will be out tomorrow no matter what. I hate to say it but the ball movement is better without Kevin, think he was dribbling too much and trying for hero ball far too often.
I am expecting Juan to be out. Nothing announced yet.
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@BShark gut feeling?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:
@BShark gut feeling?
Early intel. Not sure he even traveled with the team. Was a pretty bad injury. Surprised he went back in. He broke some panels when he punched a video board.
Thankfully after tomorrow night KU has like 1 game in the next couple weeks.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Hope he is able to play somehow. TOUGH kid.
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If without Juan we are talking Elmarko handling the ball with Timberlake and walk-ons. Doesn’t get any worse then this
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@BeddieKU23 why not jamari?
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If he’s back yeah. Not good still.
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Kevin and Jamari OUT. Juan playing.
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Come to find out Johnny only practiced one day last week before Saturdays game because of being sick also. - -If we can get him going ngain tonight be good – -Basically be the good 4 again just like it was before we established as the 5th guy - -not gonna be easy for sure - - kind of sucks
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Juan punched a video board?
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@Gorilla72 During the game, he hobbled to the out of bounds area after trying to shoot a reverse layup and when he sat down, he hit it with the side of the hand. It was not a full out punch.
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Self said today Kev practiced a bit yesterday and would hopefully practice today and be available to play Saturday. Jamari as well.
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@BeddieKU23 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:
Self said today Kev practiced a bit yesterday and would hopefully practice today and be available to play Saturday. Jamari as well.
fingers crossed
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Kev hasn’t done anything this week. Might not play Saturday. Gonna be an issue regardless for the rest of the season. With that, we can put a cork in the ceiling of this team if he’s not going to be healthy enough week to week
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@BeddieKU23 Id rest him Saturday, I honestly think we can beat Texas without him. Heck I’d rest him til the NCAA at this point if it helps him. We are pretty much out of the big 12 at this point anyway. I’m honestly shocked it still seems to be bothering him if it actually is a bruised knee. I’ve done that twice before it is painful and uncomfortable but usually isn’t a long term injury. Obviously there is certain severities of it but this one is one of the most lingering ones I’ve seen or heard of. Worried me it could be something more severe that they are hiding.
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When HCBS said that Kevin tweaked it against OU, that sounded like something other than just a bruise.
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@COHawk said in McCullar out vs Baylor:
When HCBS said that Kevin tweaked it against OU, that sounded like something other than just a bruise.
Definitely don’t underestimate a bone bruise. Someone ended up missing an entire NBA season over one, I think last year.
He looked like he was in a very bad way by the end of the OU game unfortunately.
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Kevin is able to function at a level higher than 99% of everyone, just not the level required of a collegiate basketball star. Pain limits function at some point no matter how tough you are.
I know a gal who’s femur punched thru her pelvis. She was mowing the yard a few weeks after surgery. Toughest human I know. She’s all of 5ft tall and right around 60.
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And Self said his injury is one that won’t heal 100% until rest and recovery allows him to work on rehabbing it back.
Unfortunately sitting out games and practices doesn’t seem like it’s going to fix it, it’s only going to allow him to keep limping along.
There’s a lot to say here but not worth it
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@BeddieKU23 yep that’s what I’m saying keep him off it and let’s win our home games, whatever happens on the road doesn’t matter
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@kjayhawks said in McCullar out vs Baylor:
@BeddieKU23 yep that’s what I’m saying keep him off it and let’s win our home games, whatever happens on the road doesn’t matter
We shall see but winning any of these last 5 games if Kev isn’t able to play is going to be very difficult, home or not. Don’t see how we can put an optimistic hat on at this point which sucks because the week off was supposed to help everyone. Sucks
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Doesn’t sound like Kevin will play. No surprise…
The short hand Hawks as usual
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I, don’t even feel good w/out Kevin. But, we did beat Baylor, which surprised me.
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Hunter 20, KJ 15, Dajuan 15, Furph 15 and Elmjamparknick 5 am I dreaming and reliving the 70’s? There was my gf. Tootsie Taylor in the 70’s and she was no nightmare.
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@Zabudda are you saying that’s a winning total in your dream?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:
@Zabudda are you saying that’s a winning total in your dream?
Yes.
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@BeddieKU23 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:
Doesn’t sound like Kevin will play. No surprise…
The short hand Hawks as usual
Yes, confirmed out basically. A friend of mine camping at the game said he didn’t even have basketball clothes on headed towards early warm ups.
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The way Kevin has been playing hero ball, if the younger guys step up we could be better without injured Kevin. Now healthy Kevin from earlier this no question we are better with.
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“We don’t know when or if Kevin McCullar is coming back”
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Just about every year it’s a critical piece out.
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Full quote here
“Well, my concern is will he play again this year? It’s not a day-to-day deal, it’s a week-to-week deal. He obviously won’t go on Tuesday. I’m not going to put him out there because he’s missed so much time. Even though you can look at games, the number of games missed but that’s not the story. The story is that he played against OU and had what, two days of a little bit of practice and then played and wasn’t effective and it didn’t feel good at all. So he’s got to practice for a good week before we put him out there so that he can go and not be reinjured worse because the big thing is I’d like to have for the postseason, where he’s in rhythm, and our team has a chance to be the best it can be going into the second week of March. But, you know, I’m hoping we get him back but it’s not anything that I’m I’m thinking it’s gonna happen tomorrow or Monday. I don’t think that at all.”
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Yikes I’d just sit him out for the rest of the regular season and bring him back for the conference tournament so it doesn’t effect seeding
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I come out of that statement more optimistic they are just going to play it week to week. Ideally he’s healthy enough to play before the NCAA tournament but given how the league is, it may be best to sit him through that crapshoot as well
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Who would have thought that our team, extremely low in the depth department, could lose arguably our best player (Kevin), and then play better than when we had Kevin.
This is the case. And WHY did we play better? Because the rest of our team didn’t have Kevin around to lean on. Everyone had to step up. And with these last few games we are seeing a team where most everyone is playing their best basketball. Super shout out to Nick! He’s a gutsy performer! He’s becoming a different version of The Furph! How I can make such a claim? Look at the stats in the Texas game. 19 of our 27 FTs were shot by either Furph or Nick!
If you can believe this… I’m happy Kevin will sit for the BYU game. Let him recover and give us another developmental game without him!
If we can stay healthy now… (and get healthy)… I’m becoming a lot more optimistic about March!
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I’d like to buy the last game and bottle it. Will we see the same energy tonight?
They had a week off and were home. Texas was at 2 very distinct disadvantages despite being without Kev. We have yet to see the version of KU we see at home anywhere else. That’s probably my biggest concern. It’s sort of a mirage.
Baylor and Houston are huge road games where they have the opportunity to rise to the occasion. If they can win 1 or both without Kev that’s something to get excited about for March imo
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Agreed, tonight’s game will hopefully be the start of some consistency from Timbies. I would also like to see either McDowell or Elmarko really step up and try and take his starting spot over the next couple of games.
Since the B12 race is out of our hands, I think most people would like to see him sit and get as healthy as possible. Even if we drop 3/4 over the next couple of games, I see us as at worst a 3 seed and I would rather go into the NCAA tournament as that with Kev healthy than as a 1 seed with him still banged up.
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I’d like to bottle up our Houston game! Fran could cry w/the job we did on Shead!
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Posting something about this in behind the wall
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@dylans I hope 60 is her age and not her weight…
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Yes… didn’t mention how fresh we looked! I think with our remaining schedule we can have decent legs. If we can play a high level of ball and pull leads in games, our starters can get a little more rest.
I think our previous issue with bench depth is starting to go away.
First… other teams we play are getting tired now, too.
Second… we are getting better minutes from Nick… even Elmarko and Parker are looking better. Elmarko didn’t score in the Texas game but he dished 4 assists (including the best assist in college ball this year). His +/- was highest on the team at +18!
Furph has definitely solidified as a contributor, too!
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Good stuff, appreciate your optimistic view. I see it and want to believe it but I’m not there, call it cautiousness. I need to see a road game look like we have at home at times. The bench pieces can step up at times but we’ve yet to see it even 2 games in a row or in basically any road game so far.
Timberlake’s production seems tied to bigger minutes and he’s proven he’s not a reliable scorer off the bench in spot minutes. He’s in a perfect spot though to salvage his season and keep confidence in himself.
Elmarko is a non scorer but his impact getting others buckets and his energy flashed big time against Texas. We never see it 2 games in a row though. It’s unfortunate that he was further away from being a big contributor then I thought he would be.
I think some of the benches issues fall on coaching preferences. We have a coach that’s second to none in competitiveness and ego to win games. It’s why he’s the best and in the HOF. The big 4 have been overworked because Self has such a high bar for the level of play he wants to see which then caused them to get worn down and led to nagging injuries etc. Now he’s forced to let the bench play through stuff they could have played through earlier this season with more balance in minutes. Just some 2 cents. Perhaps this was the road that had to be traveled to get where we want to go this season.
This team hasn’t hit their peak and it would be nice if they are close to reaching it.
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Our remaining schedule is a killer and if form holds true to what we’ve done on the road we’re going to lose 3 more reg season games. The schedule makers really gave us a tough one this year. Simien was talking about it on the podcast. From later Saturday home games to a Big Monday date in traditionally tough places to play two weekends in a row. Home and Home with the toughest teams in the league too. I’m sure some other big 12 teams have had similar misfortunes in scheduling. So I’ll so the usual whine from me, they should have left us at 10 teams.
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Gets worse next yr adding the 4 teams from the former Pac-12.
I did the research on KU getting more Big Monday road games then others and need to compile it.
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@BeddieKU23 Funny thing about tonight is I thought we’d lose 3 based on having a road game tonight. Obviously I was mistaken about the location.
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Per Self- Kev trending to possibly play Saturday against Baylor if he practices. Perhaps it’s more likely he returns against K-St at home but we shall see.
Sounds like the message Self sent Kev on air was received. Perhaps the L at home shook the tree a bit too.
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@BeddieKU23 said in McCullar out vs Baylor:
Per Self- Kev trending to possibly play Saturday against Baylor if he practices. Perhaps it’s more likely he returns against K-St at home but we shall see.
Sounds like the message Self sent Kev on air was received. Perhaps the L at home shook the tree a bit too.
Agree and I’m pretty sure Coach and Kevin had an extended little talk on some things
