Bye Bye Ernest
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@FarmerJayhawk but we weren’t that team. We have a coach that developed those hidden gems/gyms! Frank, dtae-future mayor of Lawrence, young Och who stayed and also local CB. that led to a DaJuan Harris signed at a D-2 school. Then there’s the most cussed D-Mac and prison Mitch, we needed him too. Even the crowd loves Chris Teahan! I wanted to see Udeh develop, I wanted to see more dancing on the sidelines and in the ncaa big dance.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 we’ll just see what happens but he ain’t starting on good team.
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@Crimsonorblue22 our last title team had 8 new players. Even guys we love like Withey and Newman were transfers. One of the constants of the Self era has been roster turnover. There will be more guys that stick around and develop. The portal stuff will slow down once the Covid seniors all exhaust eligibility. I’m all for letting players have the same ability to pursue opportunities as coaches.
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Keeping track of our rejects:
- Pettiford- East Carolina
- Cam- Boise State
- Zach- UC Santa Barbara
- Rice- NC State
- Zuby- visiting Nova, St. Johns, TCU, SDSU
- Cuffe- ?
- Joe Yesefu- ?
- Udeh- ?
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@DanR Yesufu committed to Wazzu
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I hope Zuby ends up at TCU and Udeh at Baylor
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@FarmerJayhawk I don’t think you get me
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@DanR me too. Would love to keep them in conference. I think you’ve made me realize that even with Bryce Thompson, to whom I didnt feel very attached, I still enjoyed him being in conference to be able to see him grow.
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@Jethro you forgot one. Lose in the second round to a nobody.
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found this kind of interesting , was doing my searchs of other boards and came across this. Not sure if the staff has said anything but their fans sure showing interest talking about Ernest- - -And that is DUKE. , they all seem to like rest, was talking about his rim protection how he had 4 blocks against them in 13 minutes- I guess Mitchell and other players have already hollered at him. Like I said I don’t know if Schyer has contacted or thinking about it or not. - -That would be really good for Ernest
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@jayballer67 hate to lose Udeh but even worse to Duke!
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@jayballer67 said in Bye Bye Ernest:
found this kind of interesting , was doing my searchs of other boards and came across this. Not sure if the staff has said anything but their fans sure showing interest talking about Ernest- - -And that is DUKE. , they all seem to like rest, was talking about his rim protection how he had 4 blocks against them in 13 minutes- I guess Mitchell and other players have already hollered at him. Like I said I don’t know if Schyer has contacted or thinking about it or not. - -That would be really good for Ernest
They’ve been looking for a shot blocking 5 to put next to filipowski
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Trade for Mackenzie
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I think he lands at TN or UCLA.
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@rcjhdraft said in Bye Bye Ernest:
@jayballer67 said in Bye Bye Ernest:
found this kind of interesting , was doing my searchs of other boards and came across this. Not sure if the staff has said anything but their fans sure showing interest talking about Ernest- - -And that is DUKE. , they all seem to like rest, was talking about his rim protection how he had 4 blocks against them in 13 minutes- I guess Mitchell and other players have already hollered at him. Like I said I don’t know if Schyer has contacted or thinking about it or not. - -That would be really good for Ernest
They’ve been looking for a shot blocking 5 to put next to filipowski
Well we shall see if they contact. - I would be doing back flips for him, if he was a land at a place like that -he deserves that great kid
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bye Bye Ernest:
@jayballer67 hate to lose Udeh but even worse to Duke!
I just want to see him land at a place where he can play , the higher the status of the school the better. Doesn’t matter to me , I’m even happier that he is not in conference, he come back play against us and play out his mind
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@madmax said in Bye Bye Ernest:
We act like a lot of these athletes couldn’t get an academic scholarship if sports wasn’t in the picture.
I’d be willing to bet 90% of D1 basketball players couldnt.
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Very interesting, the concept of a trade now that there is no sit out year
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@BigBad I’ll take that bet. Walk ons plus Ivy’s and there you have it
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So Duke didn’t lose any players to the Portal. Hmm. We might have a nice way to test this strategy of dumping your entire roster.
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@FarmerJayhawk Count me in on that bet. What a poor assumption about basketball athletes. Plus most states offer half/partial scholarships if you have 3.0 or above. To assume 90% can’t average B’s is ludicrous. My high school and college team only had one player under 3.0. Neither was in the nicest part of town if you know what I mean.
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When he steps foot off campus, I don’t care what happens to him in the realm of basketball. I don’t wish him any harm, but I don’t particularly care if he excels at another school either. He doesn’t care about KU, KU (meaning me) doesn’t care about him. It’s nothing personal - just a “business” decision.
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@nuleafjhawk is this like an object permanence disorder, or…?
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@nuleafjhawk I guarantee you he cares more about KU than Hunter does. He was set aside for the new, shiner more experienced model, maybe for 2 yrs. Develop as a practice player.
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Guess Mgbako is fine being a loosier.
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@Eric-san Wow! Didn’t expect that…
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Just lol.
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Twitter surprised at the decision to go to Indiana.
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@approxinfinity I just don’t see the point of worshiping someone who briefly wears a Kansas uniform. When they bail through the portal or jump to the NBA after one season it’s like the Gotye song - Somebody That I Used To Know.
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@nuleafjhawk I don’t think we should worship anyone, especially young men going to college to try to prepare for a career.
We should give them our support.
But I’ll stop preaching.
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Marked safe from a former Duke commit. It’s a blessing in disguise
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@BeddieKU23 said in Bye Bye Ernest:
Marked safe from a former Duke commit. It’s a blessing in disguise
Lotta people were lied to, goat rodeo.
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@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:
@BeddieKU23 said in Bye Bye Ernest:
Marked safe from a former Duke commit. It’s a blessing in disguise
Lotta people were lied to, goat rodeo.
My stance from the beginning is I didn’t want him so it’s fitting.
This new recruiting world is unsustainable
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Ehh one year rental. Next
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@BeddieKU23 said in Bye Bye Ernest:
This new recruiting world is unsustainable
Seems perfectly sustainable to me. All the schools have access to hundreds more players than they realistically could have gotten in contact with under the prior system. But the schools like ours who used to keep talent on the second string who could start elsewhere will have to adjust their expectations. There will still be thousands of kids leaving college every year, and thousands entering.
I think it might well expose which coaches can develop medium players and can be flexible enough to adapt their systems to their players.
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@approxinfinity just bantering with you brother - why should we give them our support? Joe Blow, a former KU standout, an up an coming star, transfers to Mizzou. Are we now proud Tiger backers?
When Tyreek Hill “transferred” to Miami, did we all become Dolphin fans? No. We were almost universally “screw you Tyreek”.
How is it different now? Because they don’t get paid? Whoops. They do.
I’ll be the bad guy. I don’t give a hoot about people that leave KU.
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@nuleafjhawk bantering is what we do!
Tyreek Hill did bad stuff before departing. Chiefs didnt want him there.
Udeh left because Bill recruited over him after a promising freshman season. Good kid.
Its different.
And if Udeh went to Mizzou I’d get on the “Ernest is dead to me” boat with you, but he wont, because Mizzou sucks and Ernest does not.
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@approxinfinity “dead to me” isn’t really the terminology I would use, I would just say ignore or not care. But I see your point. So, please, anyone who sees this - I have no ill will towards anyone who leaves KU, I’m just no longer interested.
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I’m going to be honest. I’m a fan of KU not the individual players. Over time I become fans of the players and will follow their pro careers, but it’s only because of their time at KU. Kids who leave for another school no longer have any appeal, but the ones who stick it out I return the loyalty.
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@dylans So Joel Embiid has no interest for you?
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@dylans Dammit. That’s what I’ve been trying to say. Except I don’t watch pro ball.
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@mayjay No, I don’t think Joel knows who I am.
-what does Embiid have to do with transfers?!? Bill pushed him out the door. Embiid cried about leaving KU for the NBA. What a weird rebuttal. His NBA rookie card has Kansas info on the back. It’s not a JR Giddens thing. I don’t follow Giddens.
As an aside I haven’t watched an NBA game since the bubble tournament and only watched then due to a lack of options.
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Duke had no one enter the portal. I don’t know the answer to the question, but someone here might. Why? And why a bunch for us?
The guys I don’t understand leaving are the guys like Udeh, and Zuby who played regularly as freshmen and had a bright future here.
Although I don’t like to admit it in a case like this I think @mayjay is right. The coaches who adjust and focus on the system guys are the ones who will be the next batch of successful coaches. Something tells me Bill Self is one of those guys.
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@wissox KU was always going to lose one of Zuby and Udeh at some point because they played the same position and were the same class. Losing both in the same year sucks, but nobody should be surprised that one of them was eventually going to leave because top 50 recruits don’t go to a school with the intention of being a career back up.
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@wissox said in Bye Bye Ernest:
The guys I don’t understand leaving are the guys like Udeh, and Zuby who played regularly as freshmen and had a bright future here.
But they no doubt want to play pro somewhere. Coming off the bench a second year would limit their chances pretty severely. I don’t like them being gone, but they are preparing for a career and their developmental years would be half or 3/4 gone before they ever start if they stayed at KU while HD is here.
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Just saw Udeh is visiting Duke and K state. Ouch.
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@benshawks08 said in Bye Bye Ernest:
Just saw Udeh is visiting Duke and K state. Ouch.
If he goes to Duke, someone will have to make it make sense for me. Ryan Young, Filipowski and TJ Power will be eating a ton of minutes at the 4/5. I don’t see how he gets much more PT there than here. But w/e.
The KSU one would sting. Watching him play for them for the next 3 years would absolutely suck.
I’m pretty bummed to see him go, but I was hoping somewhere we wouldn’t have to watch lol.
