Transfer Rumblings
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@rcjhdraft more will shake loose in May/early June
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So with Morris comittment, kind of Screws us of any chance with Tyson doesn’t it ? - – unless Cj or Cuffe move on - -this only leaves us presently with ONE Scholi and un questionably that would be for Hunter-pretty well settles it for Tyson to Cal looks like unless we can free up anothr spot.
Thing I really don’t understand is thought Morris wanted to play more on ball PG - and going into the off Season/portal we really didn’t need another PG , doesn’t El Marko play some point ? - if he does then you have Juan and El Marko ,Now Morris ? -not enough balls for PG if tht’s the case
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
so given we have one scholarship left and it’s being held for hunter. Do we just pray that Tyson doesn’t commit to cal over the weekend? Or put the full court press on mgbako if hunter doesn’t come.
boy I’m with you - - I’m afraid this commit pretty well seals Tyson to Cal - -unless we can get Kyle out the door or CJ
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@TYOHawk we will be super young in several key spots. Udeh has potential for sure but unless he turns in to TRob over the summer you’re gonna be disappointed in him quick. In the new land scape of college athletics I don’t think you can develop talent because it won’t stick around long enough. If this team would stay completely together for 2 years they could cut down the nets. But I’d bet good money they don’t.
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@BShark Tang seems to be a better judge of talent than Self at this point unfortunately. We had team full of whiffs last year.
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@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
so given we have one scholarship left and it’s being held for hunter. Do we just pray that Tyson doesn’t commit to cal over the weekend? Or put the full court press on mgbako if hunter doesn’t come.
boy I’m with you - - I’m afraid this commit pretty well seals Tyson to Cal - -unless we can get Kyle out the door or CJ
Yeah I’m seeing cal fans say he should be deciding shortly after his visit. If that’s true then I doubt he’s picking us because all the messaging has been that we’re waiting for hunter
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@kjayhawks if anyone other than KSU was willing to look past Keyontae’s heart and… other… issues they would’ve been horrible
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
so given we have one scholarship left and it’s being held for hunter. Do we just pray that Tyson doesn’t commit to cal over the weekend? Or put the full court press on mgbako if hunter doesn’t come.
boy I’m with you - - I’m afraid this commit pretty well seals Tyson to Cal - -unless we can get Kyle out the door or CJ
Yeah I’m seeing cal fans say he should be deciding shortly after his visit. If that’s true then I doubt he’s picking us because all the messaging has been that we’re waiting for hunter
Ha. Cal has fans?
I’d be shocked. they get about 100 people per game (in my neck of the woods).
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@kjayhawks said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Tang seems to be a better judge of talent than Self at this point unfortunately. We had team full of whiffs last year.
Lol okay
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@kjayhawks said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk we will be super young in several key spots. Udeh has potential for sure but unless he turns in to TRob over the summer you’re gonna be disappointed in him quick. In the new land scape of college athletics I don’t think you can develop talent because it won’t stick around long enough. If this team would stay completely together for 2 years they could cut down the nets. But I’d bet good money they don’t.
Will we be that young outside of the potential bench? Timberlake/Harris/Dickinson are tenured veteran guys. KJ played in a lot of big games as well.
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I have to say I’m shocked Bill was the guy to take Morris.
He better pan out and be a saint while he’s here.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
I have to say I’m shocked Bill was the guy to take Morris.
He better pan out and be a saint while he’s here.
Yea, with all the NCAA stuff that is about to hit (and has hit), this is not a great time to have a guy like that on the roster. PR nightmare next season potentially.
I guess the saving grace is that maybe it’s just us diehard fans that really notice the fine print stuff about Morris, etc.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
I have to say I’m shocked Bill was the guy to take Morris.
He better pan out and be a saint while he’s here.
We absolutely DESERVE every Jailhawks, praying for women in Lawrence etc tweet right now.
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@kjayhawks said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Tang seems to be a better judge of talent than Self at this point unfortunately. We had team full of whiffs last year.
Surely you got to be joking with that statement right lol. - -Tang better judge of talent ? - - -Nowell was already there & Johnson are the only two that you could begin to compare talent- lte’s wait and see how Tang has done with recruits after 20 Seasons - -not ONE. to say Tang is a better Judge of Talent the our HOF Coach roflmao. - Ok , Ok , I’ll be all right . Tell ya what I’ll take Self - -You take Tang , let’s play best of 7-10 whatever and see who comes out on top - -
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I don’t think I’ve ever been so disappointed to see us land a recruit/transfer, let alone a former 5 star. To be fair I don’t know the kid or the situation extensively, but ugh… def not excite about rooting for someone accused of his deeds. I guess this gets filed as one of those moments we trust Bill and the staff! I must admit I was kinda excited about the possibility of that Quaker entering the portal (Dingle), but this seems to seal that deal. There is still a lot that can and will change before June. Hopefully we get some good news early next week!
Sorry if this has become a sore subject lol, just letting my feelings out in my safe Jayhawk Tree (before I go back to lurking ^^)
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Sooo , if we stay with One Scholi and we do happen to land Hunter- - then who is our four guy ?
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@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Sooo , if we stay with One Scholi and we do happen to land Hunter- - then who is our four guy ?
KJ/Marcus Adams I’d guess?
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@PharmacyHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Sooo , if we stay with One Scholi and we do happen to land Hunter- - then who is our four guy ?
KJ/Marcus Adams I’d guess?
Love KJ to death , great energy, yet mercy the kid is gonna have to bust his ass over the summer to develop some kind of an outside shot and work on his rebounding habits - -no way is he a 4 right now - hoping nothing but the best for KJ - work , work , work.
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@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@PharmacyHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Sooo , if we stay with One Scholi and we do happen to land Hunter- - then who is our four guy ?
KJ/Marcus Adams I’d guess?
Love KJ to death , great energy, yet mercy the kid is gonna have to bust his ass over the summer to develop some kind of an outside shot and work on his rebounding habits - -no way is he a 4 right now - hoping nothing but the best for KJ - work , work , work.
I hear ya, but without adding a SF or another wing that’s all I see. He has proven he can defend multiple positions and he is a strong, hard working kid. Similar numbers to when Kevin Young was here. Effort doesn’t always show up on box scores, but you always need that guy. Hunter can keep the defense honest to a point, and if you ever needed Udeh in there you could swap to Marcus for his shooting. Just can’t have KJ and Udeh in at the same time.
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@PharmacyHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@PharmacyHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Sooo , if we stay with One Scholi and we do happen to land Hunter- - then who is our four guy ?
KJ/Marcus Adams I’d guess?
Love KJ to death , great energy, yet mercy the kid is gonna have to bust his ass over the summer to develop some kind of an outside shot and work on his rebounding habits - -no way is he a 4 right now - hoping nothing but the best for KJ - work , work , work.
I hear ya, but without adding a SF or another wing that’s all I see. He has proven he can defend multiple positions and he is a strong, hard working kid. Similar numbers to when Kevin Young was here. Effort doesn’t always show up on box scores, but you always need that guy. Hunter can keep the defense honest to a point, and if you ever needed Udeh in there you could swap to Marcus for his shooting. Just can’t have KJ and Udeh in at the same time.
thing is we need scoring from every position , because think w might havt trouble scoring because I just really don’t think we end up with Hunter- I wish to GOD we could but I just feel 50/50 at best on him - so KJ has to score got put in the work if he is gonna be at the 4
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Geez, you guys make it sound like this guy is Brandon Miller level bad. Unless im missing something, he is accused of pulling his ex out of bed when she was asleep? And a bra got snapped in the process? Not good but seems to me like maaaaybe just a little bit the reactions are a bit overblown.
Of course i want our team to be perfect character people but nobody is perfect and everyone is human and has made mistakes in their life. Those that live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
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@RockkChalkk there’s more to it. At one point she got a restraining order. Really who among us hasn’t had a significant other go to court to keep us from contacting or being in proximity to them
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@RockkChalkk said in Transfer Rumblings:
Geez, you guys make it sound like this guy is Brandon Miller level bad. Unless im missing something, he is accused of pulling his ex out of bed when she was asleep? And a bra got snapped in the process? Not good but seems to me like maaaaybe just a little bit the reactions are a bit overblown.
Of course i want our team to be perfect character people but nobody is perfect and everyone is human and has made mistakes in their life. Those that live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
Yea, i felt the same way at first. snapped a bra, ok. forgivable. sign him.
i’m like everybody else here, no real clue what happened. But from what she claims, it sounds ominous.
we’re just going off her word here, but she says he would abuse and threaten her so she’d stay with him. says he’d beat and scream at her. kept showing up to her work, threatening to beat and punch her if she didn’t stay with him. scare tactics. she claims other toxic abuse stupidity. was caught trying to break her car window, then stole and tossed her keys into a ditch to strand her at work. i dunno. maybe she’s full of crap, but just not the kind of attention i want for the program. just me.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@RockkChalkk there’s more to it. At one point she got a restraining order. Really who among us hasn’t had a significant other go to court to keep us from contacting or being in proximity to them
Meanwhile over on the Slant
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@kjayhawks said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Tang seems to be a better judge of talent than Self at this point unfortunately. We had team full of whiffs last year.
What is happening?!!
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Well all the idiots on the Kentucky boards going clackers now cause I guess Gary Parrish said on his podcast I guess last night that Hunter Dickinson would end up at Kentucky.
On his podcast I guess - -who knows might be right , but sure got them all fired up
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If that’s the case I look forward to Udeh catching lobs on him like he did Oscar in a few months.
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@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Well all the idiots on the Kentucky boards going clackers now cause I guess Gary Parrish said on his podcast I guess last night that Hunter Dickinson would end up at Kentucky.
On his podcast I guess - -who knows might be right , but sure got them all fired up
Parrish is Calipari’s biggest d-rider. Anything Parrish reports related to Cal and Kentucky should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Well all the idiots on the Kentucky boards going clackers now cause I guess Gary Parrish said on his podcast I guess last night that Hunter Dickinson would end up at Kentucky.
On his podcast I guess - -who knows might be right , but sure got them all fired up
Parrish is Calipari’s biggest d-rider. Anything Parrish reports related to Cal and Kentucky should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
Understand bud - -kinda what I was thinking cause the Kentucky fans talk about how Goodman is all over Coach Selfs ass and being a KU lover, Jeff Goodman , -Kentucky people saying Goodman recruiting Hunter to KU Sooo - -ya I understand 10000 % what your saying
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Assuming we didn’t land Primo Spears as well? Haven’t seen any rumblings here.
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@rockchalkjayhawk Seminole. Was either him or Morris. Offer went poof Friday evening
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rockchalkjayhawk Seminole. Was either him or Morris. Offer went poof Friday evening
Come on down, Hunter Dickinson! please…
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Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
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Lots of “Bill will get the 4th scholarship using magic dust” going around but currently I would bet against it.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Lots of “Bill will get the 4th scholarship using magic dust” going around but currently I would bet against it.
Wait,I can’t keep up…are we currently booked for schollies? Are we down to the Cuffe stay or go opening?
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Is it all about him having a girlfriend here? - -Is he afraid if he leaves she won’t be his Girlfriends anymore?
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@rockchalkjayhawk Only if Dickinson is a Jayhawk.
There is one scholarship left. If they want to add another guard/wing besides Dickinson someone has to go.
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Thx KCM!
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rockchalkjayhawk Only if Dickinson is a Jayhawk.
There is one scholarship left. If they want to add another guard/wing besides Dickinson someone has to go.
This is the scope of it yep, and right now there is 0% shot they take someone before Dickinson decides.
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
It’s actually unreal. I get that he’s been screwed by injuries but it’s crazy to me that there are still fans that are saying stuff like “he’s sticking it out let’s give him a chance” or “he provides rim penetration”. Didn’t bill single him out at the banquet? This guy just wants to collect NIL money and not play
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rockchalkjayhawk Only if Dickinson is a Jayhawk.
There is one scholarship left. If they want to add another guard/wing besides Dickinson someone has to go.
This is the scope of it yep, and right now there is 0% shot they take someone before Dickinson decides.
Do we think Tyson ship has sailed ?
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
It’s actually unreal. I get that he’s been screwed by injuries but it’s crazy to me that there are still fans that are saying stuff like “he’s sticking it out let’s give him a chance” or “he provides rim penetration”. Didn’t bill single him out at the banquet? This guy just wants to collect NIL money and not play
Well hell If thats truly the case I don’t blame im either then. - -That’s what this NIL has done.
Like I said if I would of had the chance to play ball and be good enough in College get a good deal from the NBA - after I was there I could give a rats ass if I eve got off the bench, I’d just sit back toss a few towels to team mates for them to wipe down during timeouts or give them a drink and collect my money. - -Cuffe gets a free ride AND money on top of that AND his girlfriend so why not? - if that’s truly the case
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
It’s actually unreal. I get that he’s been screwed by injuries but it’s crazy to me that there are still fans that are saying stuff like “he’s sticking it out let’s give him a chance” or “he provides rim penetration”. Didn’t bill single him out at the banquet? This guy just wants to collect NIL money and not play
Supposedly Self has told him for over a year he’s unlikely to play ever and he just won’t leave.
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
It’s actually unreal. I get that he’s been screwed by injuries but it’s crazy to me that there are still fans that are saying stuff like “he’s sticking it out let’s give him a chance” or “he provides rim penetration”. Didn’t bill single him out at the banquet? This guy just wants to collect NIL money and not play
Supposedly Self has told him for over a year he’s unlikely to play ever and he just won’t leave.
I know it may not be tactful, but aren’t scholarships year by year? We’ve sent guys packing before. Weird.
I say all that of course still not knowing a thing about his skillset.
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So, half the Rats have no use for players who don’t want to stay, and another half trashes a guy who stubbornly stays.
Maybe he thinks there is a Rudy moment ahead. But on schollie.
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So if we happen NOT to sign Hunter, Is Mgbako a valuable option. - -He has us listed as one of the four schools he wants to visit.
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@rcjhdraft Yeah its pretty crazy to advocate for waiting to see a player play before judging his abilities.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
It’s actually unreal. I get that he’s been screwed by injuries but it’s crazy to me that there are still fans that are saying stuff like “he’s sticking it out let’s give him a chance” or “he provides rim penetration”. Didn’t bill single him out at the banquet? This guy just wants to collect NIL money and not play
Supposedly Self has told him for over a year he’s unlikely to play ever and he just won’t leave.
I know it may not be tactful, but aren’t scholarships year by year? We’ve sent guys packing before. Weird.
I say all that of course still not knowing a thing about his skillset.
https://informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/
tl;dr P5 and Notre Dame started guaranteeing scholarships for 4 years around 2015.
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Well the Morris thread is too weird to post in tbh so I’ll put this in here.
Looking at how Texas used Morris last year in terms of position and ball handling responsibilities (I know this was a reported reason for his transfer) the players with Kansas that played this position were basically McCullar and Yesufu. I don’t remember how we listed the order, but McCullar was functionally our “two” guard. Gradey was a wing all the way and didn’t do much handling. Timberlake functioned similarly at Towson his entire time there and should offer a fair bit more handling at the 3. If you go back another year to the title team, Ochai was defined by these same things as the wing, and CB the wing guard/“two”. As things sit the only pure wing we have, and he might be closer to 3/4 hybrid is Marcus Adams. If it’s been a 25 year old 40% (in college 3 point shooter) and an 18 year old that’s likely going to have a big adjustment period I can imagine what Bill will go with to start at the 3.
