McCullar
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Ricearoni, the SF treat. Hope he has 20.
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LOL. we are getting boat raced today
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We’ll win today.
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Dave Lawrence just said he wasn’t starting, Joe was. Didn’t rule out playing.
oh my!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in McCullar:
Dave Lawrence just said he wasn’t starting, Joe was. Didn’t rule out playing.
oh my!Oh my is right. What a way to start the post-season: No Coach and no McCullar.
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Yeah he might still play it looks. Kevin probably doesn’t want to sit
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Has he had them this yr? I thought Rice was the only one. Go Kevin!
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@BeddieKU23 said in McCullar:
LOL. we are getting boat raced today
That aged well! ignore my freak out moment!
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I hope Kevin improves quickly. Back in my day, I suffered back spasms that put me out of commission for two months. I’m pretty sure he will be able to continue playing but it can hinder his performance.
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Kevin only had 12 minutes today. Yesufu picked up the bulk of the minutes with little to show for it.
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I say let’s not even play him tomorrow maybe not even in the first round.
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Why he was playing is a mystery to me! And Big surprise, he hurt his back again…stupido move by the coaches to let him play. He better be 100 for the big dance.
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@rockchalkjayhawk Lester Earl never recovered from his back issues. You never know. Hopeful Kevin’s back heals up quickly, but it may be a lifelong problem.
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Everyone has said with spasms it will not make them worse by playing. It’s what Kevin can handle.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in McCullar:
Everyone has said with spasms it will not make them worse by playing. It’s what Kevin can handle.
@Crimsonorblue22 that’s just crazy talk
I dunno how I’ve turned into the Back spasm expert, but they don’t get better without rest, recovery and hands on work. So he can for sure make it worse, and it appears he did!
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@rockchalkjayhawk we do have the best medical staff! Don’t think they’d let him play if it would further injure him.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in McCullar:
@rockchalkjayhawk we do have the best medical staff! Don’t think they’d let him play if it would further injure him.
I just want to see him back to full health for the tourney. The Big 12 title means a lot, but less to me than the tourney crown.
And they did let him play, but unfortunately saw him come out midway thru the game, where he reinjured himself. So, knowing that I’d hope more mature brains would see the bigger picture and sit him. Kids will do anything to play, as I would. (I hid a broken ankle from a coach once so I could play!)
Backs don’t get better by playing basketball, with all the twisting and turning.
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@rockchalkjayhawk I doubt there is enough time left in McCullars tenure to rest him until healthy.
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Just chiming in as someone with back issues… rest definitely helps
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We had better hope Kevin is ready for next week
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I would rest him for the 1st game
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I don’t think we can afford to
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@BeddieKU23 we blew out a good team in wvu and a solid team in isu with him playing minimal minutes. First game I think we can get by
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We can beat a 16 seed without him, depends on how he is feeling imo.
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I agree with sitting him for the first game but knowing Kevin like I think we do there is 0% he doesn’t play.
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We can beat a 16 seed without him, depends on how he is feeling imo.
Shudder. Shades of Stanford in the if he doesn’t play in the tournament. Oh what might have been… Get well Kevin!!!
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So evidently our limit for consecutive games in a few days is 2. Luckily we never have to play more than 2 in a weekend moving forward.
Wasn’t this what happened early in the year when we faced Tennessee? Except we didn’t just give up.
And the biggest “no show” was Juan. Our two best defenders were a no show with Texas.
What it really shows is how little real defense we get out of everyone else. Kevin and Juan keep us in games. For us to win moving forward we need the rest of our guys playing real defense.
Why we lose games? When we have no defense. In case there are fans still thinking our loses are based on not hitting shots… in our losses we always count specifically on JWil to carry the load. JWil is our only player who can create his own offense. He doesn’t need us to push pace off of us playing good defense.
When we push the pace off of playing good defense everyone scores because we don’t allow our opponents to set their defense.
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I think the starting five play varying levels of D from elite to decent (Kev, Juan, KJ, Jalen, Grady). The bench does not have a great defender. It might have a decent defender and the rest are fair to inexperienced. When we have 2-3 from the bench in the game, our defense suffers significantly.
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Kev is expected to practice this week
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@drgnslayr said in McCullar:
So evidently our limit for consecutive games in a few days is 2. Luckily we never have to play more than 2 in a weekend moving forward.
Wasn’t this what happened early in the year when we faced Tennessee? Except we didn’t just give up.
And the biggest “no show” was Juan. Our two best defenders were a no show with Texas.
What it really shows is how little real defense we get out of everyone else. Kevin and Juan keep us in games. For us to win moving forward we need the rest of our guys playing real defense.
Why we lose games? When we have no defense. In case there are fans still thinking our loses are based on not hitting shots… in our losses we always count specifically on JWil to carry the load. JWil is our only player who can create his own offense. He doesn’t need us to push pace off of us playing good defense.
When we push the pace off of playing good defense everyone scores because we don’t allow our opponents to set their defense.
Juan expended a lot of energy vs Iowa state staying connected to kausher. Through out the year we saved legs by switching everything. Without that it’s tough to play the type of d Juan doe’s especially without his best defensive buddy.
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I hate saying anything critical about Juan because he’s been unbelievable for us… but I don’t think he has the physique to go 3 hard games in a row.
Same for Gradey.
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@drgnslayr you are correct. A lot of folks are going full on sky-is-falling without looking at this logically. Typical fan overreaction that results in bashing Juan. We won’t have the 3-in-3 problem the rest of the way so hopefully we are good fam.
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@benshawks08 he also did the same on the big wv guard, Stevenson kid. Not many or any can do it one night but he did it 2 nights. Really hurt him not having Kevin to help.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in McCullar:
@benshawks08 he also did the same on the big wv guard, Stevenson kid. Not many or any can do it one night but he did it 2 nights. Really hurt him not have Kevin to help.
Yeah Dajuan poured his soul into both games. Really did not have much left in the tank for Texas. He is slight of frame and the drop off when he is out is so big.
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@drgnslayr Juan goes a lot harder than one else on the team. Slight or not.
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These are young people in peak physical condition in the prime of their lives. Being tired from three games in three days is a made up reason to justify a reason for them losing. Its just that they had a bad game and/or the other team wanted it more. The bigger problem I see is that it seems like the team lacks heart sometimes. I never see anyone pulling the group together on the court for huddles or encouragement. Don’t see a lot of emotion on their faces or in their actions when the games start slipping away.
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Think it goes beyond theory with how the Tennessee and third Texas games went.
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@RockkChalkk said in McCullar:
These are young people in peak physical condition in the prime of their lives. Being tired from three games in three days is a made up reason to justify a reason for them losing. Its just that they had a bad game and/or the other team wanted it more. The bigger problem I see is that it seems like the team lacks heart sometimes. I never see anyone pulling the group together on the court for huddles or encouragement. Don’t see a lot of emotion on their phases or in their actions when the games start slipping away.
Lol. What games are you watching? Jalen and Juan pull the guys together all of the time. I think it’s much more reasonable to question fatigue than heart. There are multiple NATIONAL CHAMPIONS on this team.
Professional athletes whose entire job is to be in peak physical condition utilize load management strategies to make sure they can PERFORM at that peak level the most often. Fatigue is just a fact of life. For everyone. Oh and how many pro teams play 3 in 3? I’m honestly curious about that one.
The reason I come to this board is to see why people think we win and lose games. So coming up with justifications for why they did or didn’t win is kinda the point. At least for me.
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Texas is a bad matchup for KU. They have size, athleticism and depth & play well as a team.
It was even worse with McCullar out since that’s 20% of our defensive rebounding not out there, among many other things.
I don’t know why Texas has made KU play two of its worst games in one week, but they found the way. Kudos to them.
I thought we lost the game defensively and it was evident early the mistakes and miscommunication going on. So many wide-open layups, Texas found what was working and kept going to it on those mid paint drives, they would stop, analyze, get the defense shifting then have a guard cut to the hoop and it was consistently there. I think Self would have made an adjustment here, perhaps Norm did and it didn’t work. Defense is what failed us and led to a lot of bad offense. They didn’t rebound situationally at all either. Texas had a few possessions where they got 3-4 offensive rebounds. That’s where Kevin becomes so valuable besides his defensive versatility and ability to get steals is just how bigtime of a rebounder he is.
Our options after Kevin are Joe & Bobby who can’t play the position and Rice that’s so far behind. It’s easy to see the drop off instantly when you don’t have a body that can steal you minutes. The cohesiveness of those lineups when the bench comes in look like 2 completely different teams.
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@BeddieKU23 yeah, Bobby and joe are never going to be Kevin no matter how good they play. They just don’t have the same size and skill set. I wonder if anyone on the bench mentioned to Gradey that it was actually HIM that needed to be filling in for Kevin’s role defensively. He’s the one with the length and athleticism to rebound and take up space defensively. He just didn’t have a good game either. Joe actually did some decent rebounding for his size but there’s only so much a guy his size can do in that area.
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Also, Texas is just a really good team. They had a ton of preseason hype because of all the returning talent and additions they made. You’d expect a team to fall apart after all the turmoil around beard but they’ve clearly come together and are playing for each other and their current coach whom they clearly love. I was cranky watching them celebrate because we lost but honestly that level of joy is telling about a team. Last years KU team had that joy. Texas has a clear chip on their shoulder and can use their adversity as motivation. I usually don’t pick Texas to go very far but think they might be my pick for the final four from their region this year.
It’s also easy to look pretty good when all you are doing is shooting uncontested layups and three pointers. Seems familiar honestly.
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@benshawks08 said in McCullar:
@BeddieKU23 yeah, Bobby and joe are never going to be Kevin no matter how good they play. They just don’t have the same size and skill set. I wonder if anyone on the bench mentioned to Gradey that it was actually HIM that needed to be filling in for Kevin’s role defensively. He’s the one with the length and athleticism to rebound and take up space defensively. He just didn’t have a good game either. Joe actually did some decent rebounding for his size but there’s only so much a guy his size can do in that area.
Gradey has been feast or famine lately. Agree Joe was active on boards, effort isn’t an issue with him. He’s just wildly inconsistent.
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@benshawks08 said in McCullar:
Also, Texas is just a really good team. They had a ton of preseason hype because of all the returning talent and additions they made. You’d expect a team to fall apart after all the turmoil around beard but they’ve clearly come together and are playing for each other and their current coach whom they clearly love. I was cranky watching them celebrate because we lost but honestly that level of joy is telling about a team. Last years KU team had that joy. Texas has a clear chip on their shoulder and can use their adversity as motivation. I usually don’t pick Texas to go very far but think they might be my pick for the final four from their region this year.
It’s also easy to look pretty good when all you are doing is shooting uncontested layups and three pointers. Seems familiar honestly.
Hmm. Sounds like you’re saying Texas wanted it more than KU.
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@benshawks08 Gradey doesn’t move well without the ball or on defense. He has a lot to learn (and will get paid while learning) but also has an elite shot. I’d like to see more plays designed to get him open. However, as I recall (maybe incorrectly) Bill stated that this team doesn’t do as well with set plays so it’s a bunch of improvisation off the base offense. So set plays for Gradey probably aren’t coming en masse.
Gradey is long and can be disruptive by reaching in and swatting the ball, but he can’t wall up his defender due to poor footwork it seems. He’s got tons of potential, but it will be fulfilled elsewhere. For KU he gives a needed scoring presence and great enthusiasm. My only real complaint is he’s gone too soon!
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@RockkChalkk said in McCullar:
These are young people in peak physical condition in the prime of their lives. Being tired from three games in three days is a made up reason to justify a reason for them losing. Its just that they had a bad game and/or the other team wanted it more. The bigger problem I see is that it seems like the team lacks heart sometimes. I never see anyone pulling the group together on the court for huddles or encouragement. Don’t see a lot of emotion on their faces or in their actions when the games start slipping away.
I always used to believe this.
I played competitive ball not nearly at this level and I went hard every day.
Then I was blessed with an opportunity to play basketball in Europe at a higher level.
I thought I knew what being in shape was about. Then I was at puke level in my first practice on this team.
No way I could go 3 games in consecutive days playing 30+ minutes… and though the speed was so fast, I seriously doubt it was the speed of a Big 12 game.
Granted… Texas was in the same boat but played with much higher energy. They also played more bench minutes. But anyways… Juan isn’t physically built up like many other players. Was it Self that said he looks like the kid hanging out at the mall?
I give Juan a huge amount of credit here for being tired first because he’s built frail… second… he hustles more than anyone else and spends energy.
The guys I give less credit is Gradey and KJ. These guys will have to lift their defense considerably in March our we are going home early! JWil needs help, too, but he also carries more of the scoring responsibility and that drains more energy, too.
Gradey takes half the game off… standing on the side awaiting passes that don’t come. KJ needs to lift his basketball IQ. His hedging is often out of position and he just makes a lot of mistakes typical of a freshman. Basically… he is a freshman! And Gradey is showing some signs of hustling more. He’s starting to rebound more and get loose balls.
I’m complaining a bit… but we need to be honest here.
I’m hopeful that the last Texas ass-kicking will be like the UK ass-kicking last year… do your thing, Bill! Teach these kids now before it’s too late!
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I’ve noticed Gradey’s reaction time on defense is slow. He’s probably overthinking his game because that will create a lag like he is showing.
As Self said… he’s not weak but he isn’t strong.
It seems ridiculous to throw him in the league already. He has star potential but other guys have had that, too, and didn’t jump. Everything is conjecture off that sweet stroke he possesses. That’s a lot of risk. That will never carry him into a leading role in the NBA without other aspects of his game coming along.
A year of body strengthening and coaching and that guy would surely bump up on the draft charts, I don’t care how much better the draft is next year. The difference would be night/day.
He impacts games now when he’s hot. Otherwise… he’s mostly invisible. Just what the pros want!
I know… I know… he will get guaranteed money!
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@drgnslayr If I were a GM I’d draft Gradey in the lottery and stash him for development. All he needs to do is train and grow and he can do both while making millions of guaranteed dollars and not waste time on school nonsense- basketball is his profession and he has graduated with honors. Hire a full time trainer and get after it.
Selfishly I hope he tweaks his knee going in for the game winning layup as time expires in the national championship game and has no choice but to go back to KU while he heals up and ends up with 2 rings.
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I would feel the same… except it isn’t realistic. There is so much pressure in the league. Recruits are supposed to be either earning minutes or playing developmental ball and showing promise. Even though it sounds so right to sit on him and develop him, outside of risking injury, it would carry it’s own risk.
Players have notoriety and fans… it’s a big part of what draws fans to games. Gradey leaves this year he will have instant NBA fans. I’m afraid they will be disappointed next year. I also fear a higher chance of injury. It happens often. Newbie players get hurt. So lets give a realistic projection that Gradey is two years away before becoming a lethal NBA player. He’ll have to restart the optimism. It can be done… but what did he gain over just staying in college another year where he remains a star? Then going to the league a much better player and getting real minutes in year 1?
I don’t see risk the same as others… I think he will sign for a higher amount next year and it will be worth it to wait a year. Then… if he gets hurt in his first year he will be sitting on a higher pile of cash. I think his risk of injury is higher in the NBA, hence sign the bigger contract in year 1.
