Welcome Sydney Curry!
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I don’t think so currently. Maybe that changes in 6 months… And you really have to question again, why take this JUCO if he can’t help you this upcoming season. Love how big/athletic he is. We’ll see what talk comes of him this offseason
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I’m just thinking possibly - -Curry just might surprise
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@Kcmatt7 said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@BeddieKU23 can he give us any minutes? We just need to not have to play Mitch
I’m pretty sure Cam Martin is the person you’re trying to describe here and not Curry.
KU currently has 4 players who play the 5 spot as their primary position. 2 of them (Lightfoot and Martin) will be gone after 2022. A third (McCormack) could be gone and will after 2 more years for sure. That leaves KU with only Sydney Curry at the moment in 2023-24.
If Cam Martin never plays a meaningful minute for Kansas, that’s the wasted scholarship, not Sydney Curry because Cam Martin is coming to KU as a grad transfer with only 2021-22 to play. Sydney Curry is coming to KU with 3 years of eligibility left along with the option to redshirt (which I think happens next season) and not lose a season eligibility.
Sydney Curry was brought in with the idea of him being David McCormack’s long term replacement. Curry committed to KU well before Martin so Self and staff actively sought out Martin presumably with the intention of Martin backing up McCormack this upcoming season.
If Curry doesn’t develop as expected next season, move on and nothing is really lost since he wasn’t expected to contribute next season anyway. Cam Martin was specifically brought in for the purpose of backing up McCormack next season otherwise it would make no sense to tie up a scholarship on a one year rental that wasn’t expected to play.
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Goodbye Sydney Curry! Reopening his recruitment.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
Goodbye Sydney Curry! Reopening his recruitment.
“re-opening”
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@BShark said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
Goodbye Sydney Curry! Reopening his recruitment.
“re-opening”
Was being polite lol
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Wow.
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Bill be like
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I’ll be honest, some of this feels like change for change’s sake. We’ll definitely be able to score better, but defensively… woof.
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@FarmerJayhawk if anyone can make it work defensively it’s Bill. Gonna be some wild games though no doubt.
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Thank God. He was not a KU level player
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@Kcmatt7 said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
Thank God. He was not a KU level player
I’d be fine with not recruiting JUCOs anymore.
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So assuming everyone makes it to Lawrence - Remy, Yes, OA, Jalen, Dave starting and Harris, Pettiford, Braun, JCL, Cam off the bench? Feel least confident about Yes starting, but pretty sure about those other 4. Clemence, Adams, Cuffe not seeing a ton of minutes and are candidates to redshirt. Mitch just enjoying life. Not a ton of defense but should be a lot of buckets.
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Bet that a bunch will transfer if they have to redshirt
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@BeddieKU23 said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
Bet that a bunch will transfer if they have to redshirt
I hope not don’t need a BUNCH to bail
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Sign of the times. No loyalty to programs anymore when you have a free transfer year now
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Does anyone in here think our recruiting is done for next year? lol
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@BeddieKU23 said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
Sign of the times. No loyalty to programs anymore when you have a free transfer year now
Not really loyalty when there was little or no choice. The coaches will need to work on making kids understand the benefits of staying in a program.
Much better than, “Sorry, kid. You signed a LOI back in HS, so suck it up or lose a year.”
When loyalty is forced on coaches and schools in honoring contracts, I will lament kids being disloyal.
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I’m with @mayjay here. Bill literally just forced a signed kid out (that was ALL IN on KU on social media) and it’s almost June…
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Does make you wonder… did Bill tell Curry he might want to consider transferring… or did Curry figure this out by himself that he wouldn’t see the floor much this coming season? Or is this a sign that none of the 3 guys considering leaving are leaving? Or is Bill still recruiting for next year?
I think #3 is a definite and we will probably see another addition coming. With the portal still probably bringing some activity for the next few months it is hard to think Bill is done.
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@jayballer67 I’m onboard with Curry, and he has pretty solid handles. Can probably play some 4 too.
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@BShark In a perfect world so would I, but the world is far from perfect for KU right now and we had to have a team. This is a more than solid class.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich I don’t see it. They will not redshirt. Clemence and Adams are going to play, as will Cam. Should Curry redshirt? Probably, but he won’t. When Dave leaves after this coming season, things will open up. Perfect world? Dave gets (which is his best amount) about 15 mpg and rotate fresh bodies in. It is going to be a guard centric and or bigs shooting ftom the outside offense. Alot of people have given me flack, but look at the bigs that coach is recruiting - they can shoot from the outside.
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No way on Dave playing 15 mpg. He is our most important player. Needs to get up to 25+.
KJ Adams is a RS candidate. Zach might play some spot minutes but I could see it going either way with him. Not the best fit for Bill’s coaching, from what I’ve heard he is a bit “soft”. How he responds to Bill’s coaching will be something to monitor. @Kcmatt7 knows
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@BeddieKU23 said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
Sign of the times. No loyalty to programs anymore when you have a free transfer year now
that’s very true , going to just be if they feel you srep on their toes - THEY GONE loyalty ? - - what’s that ?
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@drgnslayr said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
Does anyone in here think our recruiting is done for next year? lol
NOPE
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@Marco said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@jayballer67 I’m onboard with Curry, and he has pretty solid handles. Can probably play some 4 too.
We will never know what he has now , with him transferring out lol
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@BShark said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
No way on Dave playing 15 mpg. He is our most important player. Needs to get up to 25+.
KJ Adams is a RS candidate. Zach might play some spot minutes but I could see it going either way with him. Not the best fit for Bill’s coaching, from what I’ve heard he is a bit “soft”. How he responds to Bill’s coaching will be something to monitor. @Kcmatt7 knows
Spot on. Dave has to play in the high twenties on this team , just to important for things not to. - KJ for sure needs to redshirt & if we could work out a scenario would probably be good to be able to get Clemence to red shirt too
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Curry is in no way shape or form a 4. I’m also not sure how you can see him play and think he has handles. It was all dunks against smaller/weaker competition.
@jayballer67 not that it really matters but I don’t think it’s a transfer. KU/Self released him from his NLI because they no longer had room for him on the roster.
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@BShark said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
Curry is in no way shape or form a 4. I’m also not sure how you can see him play and think he has handles. It was all dunks against smaller/weaker competition.
@jayballer67 not that it really matters but I don’t think it’s a transfer. KU/Self released him from his NLI because they no longer had room for him on the roster.
OH , ya your right , didn’t really say transfer , he just said he had re-opened his recruitment use of my words wrong
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@BShark I saw some footage of the guy being able to dribble drive to the basket and finish hard, that’s what I meant by having some handles - was not implying that he could be a wing or guard. I never said he was going up against great competition either. But that does kind of prove my point though, it being that he will land in a D1 program and contribute. At any rate, the ship that is Curry will not be sailing in Allen. So, how many scholarships do we have left? Hard to keep track or count. Agree with you on the jucos, thought that Tyon would be a baller, but that didn’t happen. Larry Johnsons aren’t around anymore.
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He would get stripped on those moves in P5 ball. He will be a 5 wherever he ends up.
KU is currently at 0 available scholarships. Had to let Curry go to get down to 13.
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I’m sure we will all be following Curry, wherever he lands… to see if he can translate his game to D1. He definitely had a power finish at the rim, and I can’t say that often about KU bigs… many who couldn’t handle the ball well, or shoot well from the perimeter. Time will tell what we really lost there. It isn’t enough to just be able to dribble the ball a bit… Inside game takes a specific skill set.
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Bummed Curry was forced out because I was excited to see where he would’ve been in 3 years here. His athleticism isn’t something that can be taught and I was excited to see his progression and refinement to eventually replace McCormack after he left.
If this is because of Ochai coming back though, Self may legitimately end up going 10 deep this year. Who ends up getting bumped from the starting line up? Yesufu, JCL, or Wilson?
Ochai’s return also probably means Pettiford is now a redshirt candidate as well along with Adams and Cuffe.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said
If this is because of Ochai coming back though, Self may legitimately end up going 10 deep this year. Who ends up getting bumped from the starting line up? Yesufu, JCL, or Wilson?
Wondering same thing. If Ochai and Wilson are locks I wonder if Yesufu, JCL and CB will be happy. I’m guessing Yesufu is most likely to come off bench, but can fill in for both 1 and 2.
CB, Yesufu and JCL PT will live and die by the 3.
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I don’t think JCL will start, assuming Och is back. An Isaiah Moss role is more his speed at this point in his career. He just doesn’t have good enough ball skills to play the 2. I really doubt we redshirt more than Cuffe. Self just doesn’t redshirt multiple guys unless a team is absolutely loaded at one spot, like the 10-11 squad. The exception would be if we found out Bobby is hurt worse than we think, in which case might not be a bad idea.
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@FarmerJayhawk ok. I know people feel that way it’s just hard to imagine our starting 1 and 2 both being 6 feet tall. You think Martin and Yesufu start?
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@approxinfinity said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@FarmerJayhawk ok. I know people feel that way it’s just hard to imagine our starting 1 and 2 both being 6 feet tall. You think Martin and Yesufu start?
At this point yes. Yesufu definitely isn’t a PG. Bill isn’t afraid to play small at guard. Frank was like 5’10 and Devonte measured 6’1.5 at the combine. Not sure how much difference a couple inches makes (that’s what she said)
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@FarmerJayhawk You don’t think KJ Adams redshirts this season? I don’t see a situation outside of an injury where Adams sees anything but mop up minutes this season.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
I don’t think JCL will start, assuming Och is back. An Isaiah Moss role is more his speed at this point in his career. He just doesn’t have good enough ball skills to play the 2. I really doubt we redshirt more than Cuffe. Self just doesn’t redshirt multiple guys unless a team is absolutely loaded at one spot, like the 10-11 squad. The exception would be if we found out Bobby is hurt worse than we think, in which case might not be a bad idea.
I sure hope your not trying to say That Ochai has better handles then JCL has are you ? - - that is not one of Ochai strengths by far either - -not sayings JCL would start over him BUT I am saying he has better handles ? - - I wouldn’t want to bet the farm on that
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I’m still having the opinion Ochai will most likely go even though I have nothing to base it on. I just get a gut feeling Self wants a scholie available for one more pick up. Just a hunch.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t. It would be out of Bill’s norm to redshirt a freshman if he didn’t have to. If it were me I probably would just because there’s no clear role for him this year and he could be a nice player in a couple years.
@jayballer67 not at all. JCL has better ball skills than Ochai but not good enough to play the 2 when Self likes two combos out there.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t. It would be out of Bill’s norm to redshirt a freshman if he didn’t have to. If it were me I probably would just because there’s no clear role for him this year and he could be a nice player in a couple years.
@jayballer67 not at all. JCL has better ball skills than Ochai but not good enough to play the 2 when Self likes two combos out there.
So in what terms are you talking then ? - - -JCL better Fg % then Och ( 43.5 to 42 % ) - - a lot better ft % then Och ( 86.1 % to 68.9 % ) - - Better 3 pt shooter then Och ( 39.5 % to 37.7 % ) so really where would he not be as good ? - - neither one really plays defense that well. - -Och didn’t turn the ball over as much is really the only area where he is better then JCL. - -assists ration is a wash - - Steals are a wash -I think they pretty much balance one another out
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@jayballer67 i think Och has been a pretty competent defender for stretches, he just occasionally got lost. He has the body and athleticism for it. Also JCL has hit his ceiling. Hoping Och has yet to.
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@approxinfinity said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@jayballer67 i think Och has been a pretty competent defender for stretches, he just occasionally got lost. He has the body and athleticism for it. Also JCL has hit his ceiling. Hoping Och has yet to.
possibly but I think Och has hit his max , I don’t think your going to see any major improvement from where he is right now
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@jayballer67 so there was one game he willed us back into by absolutely going off from 3. If he can find that more often that would be a big leap forward. But mostly, I agree with your assessment.
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@jayballer67 said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t. It would be out of Bill’s norm to redshirt a freshman if he didn’t have to. If it were me I probably would just because there’s no clear role for him this year and he could be a nice player in a couple years.
@jayballer67 not at all. JCL has better ball skills than Ochai but not good enough to play the 2 when Self likes two combos out there.
So in what terms are you talking then ? - - -JCL better Fg % then Och ( 43.5 to 42 % ) - - a lot better ft % then Och ( 86.1 % to 68.9 % ) - - Better 3 pt shooter then Och ( 39.5 % to 37.7 % ) so really where would he not be as good ? - - neither one really plays defense that well. - -Och didn’t turn the ball over as much is really the only area where he is better then JCL. - -assists ration is a wash - - Steals are a wash -I think they pretty much balance one another out
Ah! We’re just talking past each other. By ball skills I mean handling and passing, stuff that point guards usually do. I don’t like JCL or Ochai playing on the ball at all. So I think they’re the same position, and I think we agree on that!
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Averaging 6 mpg for Louisville. About 11 points, 11 rebounds, and 7.5 fouls per 40. Has yet to record a block or steal in 48 minutes played.
I do not think he would have cracked the floor for us this year.
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@Kcmatt7 LOL reading some opinions just above about Ochai that I probably would have agreed with at the time they were written!
