SILVIO IS FREE
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mayjay said:
Hi, everyone! This is worth logging in for! I hope people show some appreciation for the administrators and staff who worked hard on this! Does this give Long some much-needed credibility with the faithful?
But I also wanted to wish all of you in the MW well as you go through all these storms. I hope you can all dodge the tornados. So scary–I remember those days, but these seem worse. Stay safe.
Thanks to everyone for keeping up the spirit! See you in the fall which I think we all will anticipate with lots of excitement!
Have people been openly against Jeff Long? I’m sure not.
I think he and Self just needed an adjustment period as both are used to being THE BOSS. It’s great having a real AD again, imo.
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From the Kansas City Star/Wichita Eagle:
https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article230795374.html?
No info we didn’t already know, but some nice remarks from KT
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Great news, but wasn’t the timing curious on the NCAA announcement?
When an organization/company/politician wants to make a statement that draws the least media attention, they’ll announce it on a Friday…especially on a Friday before a holiday weekend. Keeps too many folks from asking questions. (“Here’s the verdict…now we’re outta here!”)
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@mayjay miss you! Have a great memorial weekend!
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I never allowed myself to enjoy the thought of Silvio coming back. I’m glad that Jeff Long got a big win, our program got a big win, and most importantly, that Silvio got a big win. Now I can celebrate, and I am licking my chops thinking of what a front line of Silvio and Doke would do on the boards. Put a 6’8" Jalen Wilson at the 3, and add an RJ Hampton along with a Dotson, and we’re going to be a complete matchup nightmare for other teams. I really think Silvio is athletic enough to play the 4, and I sure hope he’s been practicing his jumper all this time. We’re going to flat dominate teams on the boards.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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This is the equivalent of landing a Top 10 recruit. We are going to lead the country in rebounding next season.
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How many of us thought we would have De Sousa and Doke for next season? I’m so happy right now.
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Big 12 Championship. Silvio take over for Doke and has his best game.
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@wrwlumpy glad this brought you out! Great day!
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Can we forget the 4/1 now??
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Honestly I’m just happy that SDS finally gets a chance to play. Young man definitely deserves it.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich I’m really happy too, mostly for him.
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@HighEliteMajor maybe Silvio can shoot the 3 now?
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Yepp the post has to be a focus right?
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@Crimsonorblue22 goosebumps all over!!!
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Too early to start discussing how Silvo and Doke will coexist when they’re on the floor at the same time? My hope is that Silvio’s secretly developed a trey and the foot speed to guard on the perimeter.
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ajvan said:
Too early to start discussing how Silvo and Doke will coexist when they’re on the floor at the same time? My hope is that Silvio’s secretly developed a trey and the foot speed to guard on the perimeter.
It may not be the perfect 1-2 combo but Self will figure it out. Having 2 legitimate bigs to run offense through makes it easier for him to scheme and develop the team.
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We’ll just keep getting rebounds until the ball goes through the hoop.
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I’m absolutely shocked! Good for SIlvio.
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@BeddieKU23 It’s also going to be real hard for our opponents to score at the rim.
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I’m not worried because SILVIO! but the bigger question is how we’ll guard the 3 with Silvio/Doke both out there.
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ajvan said:
Too early to start discussing how Silvo and Doke will coexist when they’re on the floor at the same time? My hope is that Silvio’s secretly developed a trey and the foot speed to guard on the perimeter.
Never! I think the answer is we don’t really know since he hasn’t played in over a year. I think it’ll take some time for them to get going but I think they’ll be terrific. I also think they’ll be on the court together the minority of the time, especially if we get Wilson. You’ll see Silvio a lot at the 5 if Doke gets in foul trouble. The great thing is we can play every style.
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@FarmerJayhawk if you don’t see them together where does that leave Big Dave?
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approxinfinity said:
@FarmerJayhawk if you don’t see them together where does that leave Big Dave?
A 10-12 MPG guy. But will vary pretty widely depending on matchup. I can see him being the main backup 5 or a non-factor depending on if we play a team that also plays big (Texas?) or small (ISU).
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Turning those words around, any chance Big Dave leaves?
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HighEliteMajor said:
Turning those words around, any chance Big Dave leaves?
No way. He’d have to sit out anyway, and he’s got a fantastic chance to start as a junior at Kansas, just like he would elsewhere.
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Right, if he gets recruited over for next year then yes he should leave. In this instance it’s just a case of guys returning. Guys that will be gone next year and the path should be clear.
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BShark said:
Right, if he gets recruited over for next year then yes he should leave. In this instance it’s just a case of guys returning. Guys that will be gone next year and the path should be clear.
We’re going to try (Dante)
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If he bolts now, he has three years left vs two. He won’t play much this season if Doke and SDS are here. The 10-12 min deal is a good estimate.
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I just read this here and I’m sure ya’ll been waiting all day to hear what I have to say about this. So here’s what I have to say about this: ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK KU.
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ajvan said:
Too early to start discussing how Silvo and Doke will coexist when they’re on the floor at the same time? My hope is that Silvio’s secretly developed a trey and the foot speed to guard on the perimeter.
I’d settle for Silvio showing a good midrange game, and I think that will be a definite! We can do plenty with that!
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HighEliteMajor said:
Turning those words around, any chance Big Dave leaves?
I don’t think that will happen. Big Mac was just starting to get used to D1 where he could contribute. This should be a good environment for him to still get some good minutes. Doke still has fouling issues and also performs better with limited stretches on the floor.
The following year will mean a mass exit from our bigs and by then Big Mac will fall right into a huge role.
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jayballer73 said:
@BShark - HEY BUDDY you really think we can still get Wilson to come? - - -that would be incredible - -just afraid with Michigan’s hire of Howard and Silvio coming back - -might just be enough to steer him away from us now - -what you think?
Wilson is a 3. I think it’s looking damn good for Hampton to commit to KU Tuesday and Wilson maybe to follow suit either that Friday or the following Monday. I don’t believe that he is going to make that Carolina trip.
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cragarhawk said:
Let’s just hope it’s not a situation where they say “oh yeah, sure. The kid can play. Oh and by the way here’s your post season ban…”
How could they? They were wrong, and the review committee all but admitted as much.
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When I heard the NCAA decision for Silvio, my first thought wasn’t the benefit to next year’s team, but how amazing that Silvio patiently waited all these months and stuck by his commitment to his college education and KU. I still remember the pride I felt when Silvio told his handlers he wanted to go to KU, not Maryland. Silvio sat on the bench all last year and endured all the negative attention with poise and class. Way to go Silvio. I hope to be able to shake your hand sometime soon.
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If history serves as guide, Big Dave could be our starting 5 come tourney time (assuming we don’t play Silvio at the 5 when Doke goes down)
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We need Dave. Azubuike hasn’t been healthy for more then 20 games in a season.
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Marco said:
cragarhawk said:
Let’s just hope it’s not a situation where they say “oh yeah, sure. The kid can play. Oh and by the way here’s your post season ban…”
How could they? They were wrong, and the review committee all but admitted as much.
@Marco Well, quite easily. The review made Silvio eligible for the 2019-20 season. It did not suggest the 2018-19 season should not have been a suspension.
To do so would have been to allow SDS to treat 2018-19 as a redshirt year. He lost that season eligibility. He’ll be a junior not a RS sophomore.
The appeal didn’t say the NCAA was wrong suspending him, it just reduced the suspension from two seasons to the one he served. He still got a suspension (one season).
So we played an otherwise ineligible player in 2017-18. @cragarhawk hit the nail on the head regarding the next concern … and of course, us “winning” the appeal against the same folks determining our sanctions is less than appealing (pardon the pun).
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HighEliteMajor said:
Marco said:
cragarhawk said:
Let’s just hope it’s not a situation where they say “oh yeah, sure. The kid can play. Oh and by the way here’s your post season ban…”
How could they? They were wrong, and the review committee all but admitted as much.
@Marco Well, quite easily. The review made Silvio eligible for the 2019-20 season. It did not suggest the 2018-19 season should not have been a suspension.
To do so would have been to allow SDS to treat 2018-19 as a redshirt year. He lost that season eligibility. He’ll be a junior not a RS sophomore.
The appeal didn’t say the NCAA was wrong suspending him, it just reduced the suspension from two seasons to the one he served. He still got a suspension (one season).
So we played an otherwise ineligible player in 2017-18. @cragarhawk hit the nail on the head regarding the next concern … and of course, us “winning” the appeal against the same folks determining our sanctions is less than appealing (pardon the pun).
We played an eligible player. Everyone cleared him. I’m not saying that they cant go back and say he wasn’t eligible, they do that. Like taking away wins from teams that already won them and then saying they don’t count. It took a FBI investigation to find Silvio’s issues. We stopped Billy from playing. I hope that plays in our favor. It feels as if KU would have done the same with Silvio if they were privy to the payments allegedly given to fenny
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HighEliteMajor said:
Turning those words around, any chance Big Dave leaves?
I suppose you never say never - -but just don’t see that happening
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Marco said:
jayballer73 said:
@BShark - HEY BUDDY you really think we can still get Wilson to come? - - -that would be incredible - -just afraid with Michigan’s hire of Howard and Silvio coming back - -might just be enough to steer him away from us now - -what you think?
Wilson is a 3. I think it’s looking damn good for Hampton to commit to KU Tuesday and Wilson maybe to follow suit either that Friday or the following Monday. I don’t believe that he is going to make that Carolina trip.
I am really wondering if he does indeed make that trip or not - -I’m leaning a little more too that he won’t end up making it.
I just feel now it is actually going to come down to Ku & re-committing to Michigan with their new hire - I just don’t think N Carolina now will be a factor. - -Michigan more of a threat then N Carolina for him - -Because of Juwan - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BeddieKU23 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
Marco said:
cragarhawk said:
Let’s just hope it’s not a situation where they say “oh yeah, sure. The kid can play. Oh and by the way here’s your post season ban…”
How could they? They were wrong, and the review committee all but admitted as much.
@Marco Well, quite easily. The review made Silvio eligible for the 2019-20 season. It did not suggest the 2018-19 season should not have been a suspension.
To do so would have been to allow SDS to treat 2018-19 as a redshirt year. He lost that season eligibility. He’ll be a junior not a RS sophomore.
The appeal didn’t say the NCAA was wrong suspending him, it just reduced the suspension from two seasons to the one he served. He still got a suspension (one season).
So we played an otherwise ineligible player in 2017-18. @cragarhawk hit the nail on the head regarding the next concern … and of course, us “winning” the appeal against the same folks determining our sanctions is less than appealing (pardon the pun).
We played an eligible player. Everyone cleared him. I’m not saying that they cant go back and say he wasn’t eligible, they do that. Like taking away wins from teams that already won them and then saying they don’t count. It took a FBI investigation to find Silvio’s issues. We stopped Billy from playing. I hope that plays in our favor. It feels as if KU would have done the same with Silvio if they were privy to the payments allegedly given to fenny
Thank you, that was my response, the NCAA cleared him to play. And he has now been cleared again. We’ll get a slap on the wrist if anything, and probably won’t even get that. The NCAA wants to put the shoe company genie back in the bottle as soon as possible.
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@Marco The NCAA initially cleared Derrick Rose to play as well. That didn’t work out too well for Memphis in the end.
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@Marco @BeddieKU23 The initial clearing of a player is really irrelevant because (for lack of a better term) fraud was committed. Meaning, the player didn’t disclose his conduct. No one was told, and with that knowledge he would not have been cleared.
I think the issue becomes whether the NCAA wants to lower the boom. Seeing what happened to MU over the academic fraud issue ( when the fully cooperated) I’m not optimistic.
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Big man coach Norm giving Silvio some rave reviews. Decent shot out to 15-18 feet, and can switch on some screens out on the perimeter because he’s so athletic. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article230837994.html
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But let’s not shoot those 15-18 footers … bad shot anyway, particularly if one is just “decent.” Now, that 13 foot baseline shot that Marcus and Simien has down? That’s the ticket.
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@HighEliteMajor I concur. If he can consistently make a jumper from the FT line or a bit closer in a hi/lo type set it’ll be very good offense since it’ll make it much more difficult to double Doke
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Also playing 2 bigs will be marginally more advantageous with the 3 point line moving back.
