McDonald's All American Week Events
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My two biggest basketball friends are Duke and Indiana fans. If we get Langford then I have bragging rights for a while!
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Kcmatt7 said:
I don’t think 3pt shooting is as bad of an issue as we think. This team doesn’t look like UK did this year, at least as I’m picturing it. Dotson will shoot better than SGA, Grimes will shoot better than Diallo, Newman/Vick/Langford shoot better than Knox. So, I feel pretty good about our shooting being good, just not good enough to carry you for an entire game probably. But if we have the post play we expect, we should make up for a lower 3pt% with better defense and rebounding.
Dunno about that. SGA is at 40%. The others I can see though. Diallo is at 34% and I’d hope Grimes would be better than that. Someone should be comparable to Knox at 35%. Green and Gabriel were both high 30s. And this was a relatively bad shooting team of course.
We could have 0 of Newman/Langford/Vick so I’m not willing to pencil any of them in yet.
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@BShark SGA shot less than 2 per game though. And in conference play, 1.4 per game. So he is taking only the widest of open 3s to shoot 40%. Not that great. There is a reason nobody really guarded him past the 3 point line.
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@Kcmatt7 I think Dotson will be similar, from what I’ve heard and watched.
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Dotson will be a very good player for us though of course.
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@BShark I would hope he has the capability to shoot 2.5 3s per game at a 35% clip. That’s about my expectations.
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Grimes shot 38% this year from 3. Surprisingly he wasn’t a good FT shooter this year… Whacky
Dotson can shoot it, just needs KU coaches to help him get up shots. I’d say Dotson compares to Duval in that their strengths are getting in the lane and making a play or finding an open man. Dotson however does have range on his shot. I expect he’ll improve over time.
As @BigBad said Garrett will likely start next season. They have a lot of refinement to do on that shot especially from the FT line. That I can imagine will be his biggest off-season goal.
The Transfers- they can all make a 3 and you hope the year off gave them time to refine some things.
If Vick leaves we need Langford badly. Size, athletic, really good shooter and can get his own shot.
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@BeddieKU23 Dotson looks like the best PG at MCDAA. If he keeps it up he might find himself going up the rankings. I’ve always thought he is a multiple year guy buy if he plays himself into being OAD that probably means KU has an amazing season.
Dotson is a true PG.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Dotson looks like the best PG at MCDAA. If he keeps it up he might find himself going up the rankings. I’ve always thought he is a multiple year guy buy if he plays himself into being OAD that probably means KU has an amazing season.
Dotson is a true PG.
He might not have the measurable’s of a typical OAD PG but he definitely has the chance to be really good here. I think this is the 2nd or 3rd time he’s beaten Quinerly H2H and Jahvon is really good himself. I hope he stays around at least two seasons. It is unique for him though that there’s no Mason or Graham in the wings so the opportunity to play big minutes as a freshman is there for him to be noticed by the NBA. I’m excited to see his defense here, he’s every bit a ballhawk as Garrett was coming in. His ability to get to the rim and finish will also remind us of someone…
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Nas Little looked like the best player in the scrimmage yesterday. At least imo. Dotson looks exactly how you want him to. Romeo never looks like he is trying, but still puts the ball in the basket. Zion looked like Zion. I was not impressed with Barrett or Reddish yet though. Keldon Johnson didn’t stick out. Grimes definitely didn’t stick out. Quickley looks noticeably not as good as basically everyone else there. Big Dave plays HARD. He is just heavy footed as could be.
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Little has some serious bounce to him.
I think Barrett will show out in the game, kid plays hard and is so active. Nightmare to guard.
I haven’t really been a big fan of Reddish but you see the prototypical size and potential that has him ranked so high.
If Big Dave is heavy footed Naz Reid makes him look like Superman. I agree though Dave will be someone Hudy can really help improve on certain aspects of his ability. I love that he already has this mentality to work and play hard and has changed his body up on his own.
Agree on Romeo and the other guards. Grimes has kind of blended in other settings like this. Will be interesting to see how he does in the games as he has this, Jordan and Nike Summit all coming up.
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Coby White looks like a good shooter going to UNC. Joel Berry 2.0 for 4 years. Needs to do something about that hair though, that’s a joke
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Kcmatt7 said:
Big Dave plays HARD. He is just heavy footed as could be.
Yeah. He’s going to be great in time. Vernon Carey is a special prospect but he totally worked McCormack over in a game earlier this season. I hope McCormack is okay with taking his time and maybe even redshirting. Everything I’ve read/heard you’d think he would be but you never know until a kid gets into a situation.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Little has some serious bounce to him.
I think Barrett will show out in the game, kid plays hard and is so active. Nightmare to guard.
I haven’t really been a big fan of Reddish but you see the prototypical size and potential that has him ranked so high.
If Big Dave is heavy footed Naz Reid makes him look like Superman. I agree though Dave will be someone Hudy can really help improve on certain aspects of his ability. I love that he already has this mentality to work and play hard and has changed his body up on his own.
Agree on Romeo and the other guards. Grimes has kind of blended in other settings like this. Will be interesting to see how he does in the games as he has this, Jordan and Nike Summit all coming up.
I think Barrett is the best of the Duke wing Cerberus and that it’s not particularly close.
Much like Garrett was a guard pressed in the Self mint I feel like McCormack is a big that will please Self. The kind of player that plays more than portions of our fan base thinks he should. However there is just so much depth next year down low. Doke leaving would change everything though.
I don’t think Grimes or Romeo are alphas. It’s okay though because Dotson is extremely alpha. I think Dotson gets massive minutes next year. I’m not as sure on Grimes. I feel like he is a somewhat unique player and has a lot of good things that he does but I can see him getting in Self’s dog house.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Big Dave plays HARD. He is just heavy footed as could be.
Yeah. He’s going to be great in time. Vernon Carey is a special prospect but he totally worked McCormack over in a game earlier this season. I hope McCormack is okay with taking his time and maybe even redshirting. Everything I’ve read/heard you’d think he would be but you never know until a kid gets into a situation.
I watched the replay of that game. Carey looked like a grown ass man.
I’m hoping with Capel leaving, maybe Norm can try to get in his ear some more. Would be perfect timing for him to come with (I think) everyone but Big Dave and Mitch probably gone. Even if we have one of Dedric or SDS, I expect there to be a starting spot available.
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@Kcmatt7 Certainly doesn’t hurt that Self will be coaching Carey for team USA.
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DraftExpress saying Dotson looks like the best PG in this class…
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@BShark Great point. Forgot about that. Really think he is the type of guy we could steal away.
I keep waiting for Bill to get another crack at a top 10 big man with actual size and strength. Not like Diallo who was a bean pole.
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@Kcmatt7 There is a very real chance N’Faly Dante reclasses to 2019. In that scenario I feel KU has a real good shot to get one of them. I have no idea who to preference there, Self gets just one of the two and I’m happy.
I think Doke is 100% gone after next year if he does stay after this season. Dedric I expect to go pro after next season. Silvio I don’t know. McCormack will still be around. Mitch isn’t a guy that will factor into the decision making of recruits. So we could be looking at McCormack being the only clear rotation post player after next season. A scenario like that would make it possible to bring in JRE, Hurt and Dante. Talk about a hum dinger front court… Hurt and Dante are absolutely NBA talent. Silvio sticking around and getting 2/3 would be fine too. Lol.
Dante already living in KS can’t hurt. Like Cheick he is from Mali. From my understand Cheick still does like KU/Self despite how it all went down. Given the recent success with African post players at KU I think KU has as good a shot as any to get Dante.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Little has some serious bounce to him.
I think Barrett will show out in the game, kid plays hard and is so active. Nightmare to guard.
I haven’t really been a big fan of Reddish but you see the prototypical size and potential that has him ranked so high.
If Big Dave is heavy footed Naz Reid makes him look like Superman. I agree though Dave will be someone Hudy can really help improve on certain aspects of his ability. I love that he already has this mentality to work and play hard and has changed his body up on his own.
Agree on Romeo and the other guards. Grimes has kind of blended in other settings like this. Will be interesting to see how he does in the games as he has this, Jordan and Nike Summit all coming up.
I think Barrett is the best of the Duke wing Cerberus and that it’s not particularly close.
Much like Garrett was a guard pressed in the Self mint I feel like McCormack is a big that will please Self. The kind of player that plays more than portions of our fan base thinks he should. However there is just so much depth next year down low. Doke leaving would change everything though.
I don’t think Grimes or Romeo are alphas. It’s okay though because Dotson is extremely alpha. I think Dotson gets massive minutes next year. I’m not as sure on Grimes. I feel like he is a somewhat unique player and has a lot of good things that he does but I can see him getting in Self’s dog house.
No question in my mind Barrett is better. If he had a perimeter shot that was consistent he would have ran away with the #1 spot. Looks bigger too.
I’m not worried about Grimes at all but you never know what to expect with Freshman until they get comfortable playing for Self. Can’t wait to see him and Dotson build that Chemistry together this summer.
Agree on Dave. I think they recruited the right big for this class. Good already, can get even better over time. I think we’ll see the staff mention over the years how much they like him as a person. Great mindset already to work with.
Garland surprised me a little so far and has looked a bit bigger to me then I remember.
Not going to take much from a practice setting where the play means nothing and there is zero incentive to play hard. It is however nice to see our Trio + possibly Romeo all in one setting. 18 class certainly looks a bit down compared to some others but I’m extremely pleased with what we got signed
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@BeddieKU23 It is really crazy Devon loves going to the hole -and quick mercy he is quick. – Really looking forward to seein my boy on the court. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Yup his attacking style will be important on next years team.
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Ryan Noel said “Dotson is probably going to be the fastest guard KU has had under Self.”
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@BShark I wouldn’t disagree with that. - -I can see that, - -the kid can be an absolute blur - -and loves taking it to the rim - really quick - - really - -really quick. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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“Game” starting soon.
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Big Dave out there foolin around
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Romeo has been really good. His skill set really fits these games. But the game itself has sucked. Can’t wait for the Hoop Summit where these guys really get after it.
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Next years team is going to be SWEET! Could be back to back national championships? I have faith!
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@FarmerJayhawk Yeah this is brutal.
@Statmachine I think 0 is more likely than back to back but next year’s roster is definitely exciting.
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0 is more likely sure I said “could happen”. I could get hit by bird poop today too? KU winning back to back is more likely than me getting pooped on by a bird today.
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If you were to go to Vegas today and bet on KU winning back to back or Statmachine getting pooped on by a bird the odds would be KU winning back to back. Some people live life looking at the glass half full lol. Thats me! I still think its possible!
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If Langford was going to IU, why would he take one last trip at the request of the coach? This is a pathetic attempt at recruiting. MIller knows he’s not coming and this is why the last effort to persuade him. HE’S NOT GOING TO IU MILLER.
Then Mack has the nerve to try? This is laughable. Langford even said BEFORE Mack called he was not considering any other teams regardless of coaching changes. Damn these coaches just don’t take a hint.
Vandy and Bryce Drew have tried equally hard. I’d say his chances are better. But these coaches are acting really nuts. I love Self’s approach with Langford. He’s laid it all out for Langford, and isn’t making any ridiculous desperate pitches. Self is classy and the only thing Langford has said lately is, “Coach Self gets his players ready for big games.” When Langford was asked about KU going to the F4, he simply said, “It doesn’t surprise me.” Something tells me he’s down to KU and Vandy with KU slightly leading.
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ESPN headliner McD AA event- This is stupid. My guess is he hurt it, sprung, broke or maybe fractured it. He showboats and he needs to calm down. He’s lucky all that got hurt was the hand. I do hope the best for the young man.
Williamson goes to locker room with hand injury.After falling awkwardly on his right hand, future Duke player Zion Williamson comes up grabbing his hand in pain.
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This is why people outside of the east coast hate ESPN, FF week that Dook isn’t in, yet here they are all over the ESPN MBB home page like they already won the title next season.
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kjayhawks said:
This is why people outside of the east coast hate ESPN, FF week that Dook isn’t in, yet here they are all over the ESPN MBB home page like they already won the title next season.
Yep…Coach K getting press for beating Cal at his own OAD game. WOW…UN-FREAKIN’-BELIEVEABLE
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K has always had very good/borderline great recruiting classes. He somehow built a reputation of having smart scholastic kids who are scrappy on the court. He more times than not had more talent than anyone out there.
- Between 1980-1989: 12 McDonalds All Americans
- Between 1990-1999: 17 McDonalds All Americans
- Between 2000-2009: 20 McDonalds All Americans
- Since 2010: 25 McDonalds All Americans
If kids could have left after one year they would have, even at Duke.
In contrast Kansas has had 46 McDonalds All Americans ever compared to coach K’s 74.
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Stats from the game. DM & QG 14 pts each, DD 8. QG 6 assists
https://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/mcdonalds/stats/2018
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2018 class does not look particularly strong. Barrett only surefire long term NBA player. I think just based on the weak class alone if players come back they could improve their draft position.
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Thoughts from the game:
Dotson is the quickest guard in the class. Absolute blur. Will have to learn to harness that at times but in a transition situation good luck stopping him.
Grimes played well. Showed off the deep ball with an excellent stroke. I can easily see him being our best 3 point shooter on the team. Great size and all around skill that we’ve come to expect from him.
McCormack is a space eater. Not many teams have those and he plays hard. Someone we could have all 4 years. Excited.
Romeo looked very good as well. The size, athleticism and shooting ability all on display. TV heads spent a lot of time talking up him for Indiana and Vandy per usual. We’ll see.
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@BeddieKU23 So I get that it’s an allstar game but Quickley and Quinerly were very meh to me. Dotson and Garland clearly better.
Cam Reddish is way more Wiggins than he is JJ with the overall talent of neither, if you catch my driiiift.
I was pleasantly surprised with McCormack. Even compared to earlier this season it looks like he has done work on his body. He should get along real well with Hudy. I would expect him to be a 4 year player as well.
Langford looked fantastic last night. At this point I expect Newman and Vick to go pro, so hopefully the team ends up with Langford. He is a next level type player.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 So I get that it’s an allstar game but Quickley and Quinerly were very meh to me. Dotson and Garland clearly better.
Cam Reddish is way more Wiggins than he is JJ with the overall talent of neither, if you catch my driiiift.
I was pleasantly surprised with McCormack. Even compared to earlier this season it looks like he has done work on his body. He should get along real well with Hudy. I would expect him to be a 4 year player as well.
Langford looked fantastic last night. At this point I expect Newman and Vick to go pro, so hopefully the team ends up with Langford. He is a next level type player.
Both Q’s will be fine. For Kentucky’s Q that one is going to have to understand he’s not a OAD…
Nova’s Q will turn into a really solid guard for them. Zero chance that Wright doesn’t make him a pain in the A by his Jr year.
Not a fan of Reddish but it will help him that he can be a sidekick to Barrett & Zion. Still not seeing what has Tre Jones so high but the hype between Duke and his brother has him there.
McCormack definitely looks like he’s earned his stripes. If a kid can on his own change his body and become better I can’t imagine what 4 years under Self and Hudy will do further for him. He picked the best school for his future.
Nassir Little is a stud. I don’t know what Roy will do with a talent like that but they stole one. White is Berry 2.0 in so many ways its scary. Roy’s next 4 year Burger Boy.
I’ve become a big fan of Romeo’s game since KU’s interest picked up in him. This kid scored 3000 points in High School. I was having a hard time trying to figure out who he compares to, the best I could come up with was a combination of Jayson Tatum & Kelly Oubre. The game just comes so easy for him but a coach like Self could absolutely push him for more. He’d excel in that wing role here where he can score from the perimeter, get to the hoop, be our next lob man and be great on the defensive boards. Carbon copy fit here.
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@BShark That would be really, really fast.
@BeddieKU23 I think people will be shocked when Dedric starts draining 3s, and our 7 footer is sitting in the lane, waiting for the rebound. Another 3 point option could be Cunliffe in the Brannen Greene role.
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@BeddieKU23 Yeah I meant from an OAD/NBA talent perspective. If They end up hanging around for 2-3 years, they will be fine. At Nova, Wright will be able to ease in Quinerly. If Cal is expecting Quickley to come in and be a dominant PG I think UK is in for some trouble.
Agree on Tre Jones. Not as good as his brother. Should be around multiple years.
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Compared to Dotson and Grimes, Big Dave looks…well…big, really, really big.
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@JayHawkFanToo Good lord. He is a big guy.
The interior size next year (assuming Doke is back) will be amazing.
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@JayHawkFanToo @joeloveshawks Yeah he is a force. I was again impressed with how smart he is. There were actually some fun questions and answers in the video I thought.
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I think I am going to become a fan of McCormack very quick. - - I for one am getting pretty tired of the McDonalds all star game , you can’t tell nothing or next to nothing out of this game. - -it has really even gotten to the point where it’s hardly even a glorified scrimmage anymore. Jay Williams made the statement repeatedly how he was disappointed because the lack of defensive effort. - something that resembled something of an offensive scheme. - Then finally at the very end they showed a little effort to play some defense.
Having said that What I could tell is McCormack is a guy that sure looks like he will bring his lunch - -looks like a pretty big boy- -love his effort rebounding - -I think he will be a very solid 4 year player for us. - Our interior in the coming years are just going to be insane- -yes - -I think I’m gonna like him just fine. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Man, Grimes and Dotson sure look a lot alike. Kinda weird, really, how similar they look facially. McCormack is big dude. Imagine he and Doke roughin’ guys up.
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@BShark it’ll be interesting how UK handles all the guards they’re going to have. They offered Hagans, who’s basically a lock there once he reclasses. I could see Quade leaving since he’s not getting as much PT next season.
