Langford
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His hair game is starting to resemble the ridiculous mop Brian Bowen has
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The competition level was certainly not good.
Has great form on his shot.
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Romeo said today he’ll probably announce at or a little after the McDonald’s game. Doesn’t bode well for us IMO.
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As of today Vick’s stock has dropped and it looks like he is going to make a return.
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Statmachine said:
As of today Vick’s stock has dropped and it looks like he is going to make a return.
Not sure how I feel about this. Do you have any word on who is leaving the program to make room for Agbaji?
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@BShark In order of likelihood: Newman, Vick, Doke, Sam
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@Statmachine really depends on what Vicks camp is thinking. Does a return actually improve his stock? They might be ready to move on and start getting paid to play
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BShark said:
Well dam this doesn’t do me any good - -as it’s a dam VIP - so don’t know what he said about KU - - yay. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark Can they tell us what players Self is telling them won’t be back? Lol.
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Ummm that article makes it seem like ku is leading and everyone else is trying to sell their soul
Big dog vs little dogs battle
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Can they tell us what players Self is telling them won’t be back? Lol.
That would be nice wouldn’t it? Self definitely knows.
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Unfortunately New Albany lost tonight so now Langford will focus on recruiting and all star games.
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OK let me just say this. - - Is Indiana in the NCAA tourney? - - and the ANSWER IS? - - -UMM NO. - - Is Indiana in the Sweet Sixteen ? - - and the ANSWER IS ? - - -UMM NO - - - - - is Vanderbilt in the NCAA Tourney ? - - -and the ANSWER IS ? - - -UMM NO. - - -Is Vanderbilt in the Sweet sixteen? - - and the ANSWER IS? - - UMM NO .
Is Indiana on the level of KU ? - - and the ANSWER IS? - -UMM NO. - - has Indiana been prevelant in the tourney in recent history? - - and the ANSWER IS? - - -UMM NO - - - - Is Vanderbilt on the level of KU ? - -and the ANSWER IS? - - UMM NO. - - does Vanderbilt have a record of consistency in make the NCAA Tourney? - -and the ANSWER IS? - - UMM NO
ARE Indiana and Vanderbilt National Powers ? - - -and the ANSWER IS? - - UMM NO - - Do you want to play for a top ten program that is there year after year after year Romeo? - - and the ANSWER IS ? - - -UMM YES -should be a no doubter - -end of story - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Don’t you wish kids see it that way
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@BeddieKU23 Boy do I. - -but their minds change as fast as a Kansas Weather forecast. - A lot of them don’t see the broad picture. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I’m not sure what the weather is like in Kansas but where I live it was 75 one day, 20 the next with 6 inches of snow and then we got 3 Nor’easter’s in a week and on the first day of spring it was 7 out this morning
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@BeddieKU23 I sure feel for you with those storms - hear there is suppose to be a monster storm heading to Boston this Weekend - One reason WV left on their trip a day early so they could get there
There is a saying here in Kansas. - If you don’t like the weather wait for five minutes it will change lol. - Have seen multiple times where it was raining it’s ass off on one side of the street and nothing on the other side with sunshine.- -Of Course we have our Tornados been through 2 F-5"s don’t want to go through anymore. -Wind can flat blow you away- -you just never know what your going to get - -same way with a 17 - -18 yr old kid trying to make a decision - -he can and a lot of times will change his mind at the drop of a hat lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Sounds very similar then. It looks like where I live will miss the storm for the most part. I know everyone is sick of snow especially as we hit the end of March here.
With Langford I think he’s taking a very deliberate and patient approach. I don’t think he’s staying in-state and has done the right thing overall. Indiana fans have taken his recruitment to extremes and it will be funny to see the meltdown if he goes to KU or Vandy
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@BeddieKU23 We had between .05-.10" of rain last night. First moisture since mid-October. Nearly a record. My poor boy loves snow and we haven’t had snow stick around for more than a day or two in years. So rub it in why don’t cha?
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dylans said:
@BeddieKU23 We had between .05-.10" of rain last night. First moisture since mid-October. Nearly a record. My poor boy loves snow and we haven’t had snow stick around for more than a day or two in years. So rub it in why don’t cha?
I will glady ship you all the snow from my yard for free.
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@BeddieKU23 I think next winter I will get some fine spray nozzles and make my own snow machine. I can’t change the weather, but I will make it snow next season!
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@BeddieKU23 So I take it you must live somewhere close to the Coast then right? not sure. - -I Always say to people here when they start bitching about the winters here- I just say pssssssst please - -what would you do if you ever had to really go through a winter. - -We haven’t had squat for a winter here in I’d guess 10 yrs. - - Now we had some decent snows earlier in my life but I said if you complained to the people like from the East Coast about how bad we had it in the Winter -they would laugh you out of the room. - - Hell when I hear of snow rates of 2-3 inches an hour in your snows sometimes - - I think holy shit - hell we get 3 inches for a storm and people think it’s a decent snow - -FOR THE STORM LOL
As far as Langford - When I heard talk of him maybe announcing at the All Star game I thought we were out. But since he is waiting till April - - I think that no way can hurt our chances would you think? - -Like I’ve heard other people say he is waiting to see what Vick does - - makes sense to me. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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About 3 hours from the coast but every storm that has hit recently has been brutal for snowfall totals. A town a few miles away got over 4 feet in higher elevations. It’s been hit or miss lately here as far as big storms but this year has definitely been “hit” and in the wrong month as usually we are done with snow by now. Kids have missed so many days of school they are going into July now.
The more Langford waits until April the more I like our chances as you said. And if guys leave that we suspect might be we’ll have a lot of minutes to give him
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@BeddieKU23 Mercy. - - -that is brutal. - - -I bet the kids really enjoy having to go to school that long - -that’s insane.
Gonna be interesting to see how this Langford thing shakes out. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I know the parents are not happy either. A lot of school days have been canceled over the threat of a big storm instead of waiting for it to actually hit. I can think of at least 3 days that have had cancellations and there wasn’t even any snow on the ground by noon. The decision making process has gotten soft compared to what it was even 10-15 years ago.
I’ve felt confident with Romeo for a while. The more I’ve watched his games this year the more excited I get envisioning him here with what we have coming back and coming in. I would take Malik coming back to anchor the team but if he’s leaving Romeo is absolutely the best option out there.
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@BeddieKU23 I saw an analysis of why there are more snow days without snow. States have largely reduced funding for school districts, school districts are getting consolidated, and plows are less available or shared by several municipalities. With districts covering wider geographical areas that can combine city and rural areas, the school boards have to make decisions sooner than they used to, and do not want to run the busses (which in many places like SC are poorly maintained) in any areas that might get hit by snow, affecting an entire district even if a storm might be limited. They have liabilty concerns over both running the busses on slippery roads, and not running the busses while the schools are open because of the worry that parents and kids will then have to drive those roads. Finally, with busses often shared by several schools or even districts, transporting the busses from closed districts to open districts can be iffy at best. (In SC all busses are owned by the state. Oh, yay.)
So, consolidation and limited funds, coupled with ultra-sensitivity to liabilty, are the reason kids get to stay home now and go to school in summer.
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Yes they sometimes close the schools a day in advance of the storm and its happened multiple times where kids have missed school without any snow actually falling. Anytime Nor’easter starts making the news, schools start panicking. I have a feeling once my son gets old enough I’m going to really feel the pain of this issue.
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Well I wonder how much attention Romeo has been paying attention to our trek and landing in San Antonio? - -You wanna play for an elite program? -you want to enjoy something like this? - I would think this success in the tourney can’t do anything but help us with him ya think?
Also wonder what this deep run does to La Gerald’s thought process as far as leaving or returning? - If we should happen to win it all - -you think that will influence him one way or another? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Yes, I believe it helps with Langford. Vick situation depends on whether he is projected to be drafted. He started hot but has waned quite a bit.
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If he watched Sunday’s game and wasn’t convinced well I’ll laugh at him for the rest of time. That’s as good as it gets for a recruiting advantage. I don’t think we are done impressing either. This ride is continuing all the way to Monday Night.
Having said that I’m not sure what effect winning has on recruits such as Langford. He knows all 3 situations, he knows the coaches, the cultures, the styles of play. He’s about maximizing his one year for the pro’s. We have a father that’s involved on a similar level to some others.
He’s a fantastic talent, I think KU needs him to compete for a title next season as I’ve stated multiple times but I also have this sense that Langford isn’t as much concerned about KU as what comes next. And for the most part every player that’s come to KU that “doesn’t unpack the bags” ends up hurting us when it counts most in March. I’ve also seen reports that he is the type that would put his mind and body on the line wherever he goes as he’s had tremendous pressure surrounding him this year as Indiana goes crazy over his every move. I’ve seen reports that he’s handled everything thrown at him very well. He could have went to other higher profile schools but wanted to be around his team and his hometown. Self will demand he unpack his bags if he wants that challenge, he’ll be here. Just my thoughts here.
Vick… Who knows. This version of Vick is the one we all thought might be NBA gone after season’s end. I’d imagine a tourney run would give him momentum, get a combine invite, see how he tests and plays etc. I still think he’s leaving but I would love to be wrong. The passion he’s showing on the court for the past month would be awesome to have back. If Vick is going to ever break out of his shell from the type of person he is, leading a young bunch of guys next season could be what he needs to make it professionally.
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@BeddieKU23 I agree. - -I do know or well at least what I had read was that his Dad has said that they wanted to watch the teams more see their style of play more to see how he would fit - -Watch the Coaching style and how the Coach is using his players how he inner acts. - I would think he would be able to see how Coach has been able to work with our current group and see how they have developed and even though they said they wouldn’t be making another trip to Lawrence with us advancing and making this run - could do nothing but help us - him being able to see how Coach is getting these guys to be more aggressive , let him see how they are developing - put that on top of the National exposure to showcase his talents he would be getting has got to be a plus for us. - Your are 100% - right. - If he didn’t take notice of yesterdays game then - I don’t know what to say - -That game was a classic - -a battle of two blue bloods being show cased. - -By far the best game of the tourney this year - hands down. - -Plus next Saturday could be another classic.
I have to agree with you again - -I too still think Vick is gone after this year - -he is turning it up some again re-emerging has been playing pretty well for a bit now - I just feel that he either will be drafted or over sea’s - -I know it was one play but it was a HUGE play a big time reaction - - -when he was in the middle of that zone and think it was in the overtime - -Graham got him the ball and it had barely hit his hands and he kicked it out to Malik for that huge shot - -just like BAM - - BAM so quick - that’s big boy play there. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Read this morning that our 3 boys at the McDonalds all star is all up in Romeo’s ear - - Mainly Grimes - -trying to get him on board to come to KU - -telling him what the three of them could do at KU. - Romeo says he talks with Grimes a lot - -Dotson says he has talked to him some - Mc Cormack has talked to him some - but mainly Grimes - - Romeo say will probably be towards the end of April when he decides - -wants to get these all star games out of the way. - -GET ER DONE BOYRS – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 Man!!! I dont want to see Vick leave! I really dont. He could be a lotto pick if he came back and it could be HIS team next year. But I also want Langford at KU. We cant have both can we??
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@Lulufulu Do you really want Vick to be the leader of a team?
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@Kcmatt7 Well no, but from an experience level he would be.
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Langford is waiting to see a couple of things.
- What happens with grad transfers
- What happens with guys and the NBA
I don’t know what Vick is going to do at this point. I’m really not sure what he should do.
If KU wins the title, Newman probably has to leave. With the tournament he’s had, he almost has to go. Even if they don’t win it, Newman has shown something this month that may mean he needs to go. He was an elite talent coming out of HS. He has gotten back to that elite level. His efficiency has exploded, and he’s done all of this while averaging fewer than 1.5 turnovers per game, and his rebounding numbers are up.
Every important stat is up from his year at MSU - FG%, PPG, FT%, 3PT%, REB, STL, TO - Malik has become a better all around player, and now his scoring is back to the level a lot of people envisioned when he was coming out of HS (averaged 30 a game in HS). Let’s not forget that he was better than Devin Booker coming out of HS. He has shown the handle and shooting stroke, along with a renewed commitment on the defensive end, that could get him paid this year.
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@justanotherfan Speaking of grad transfers there have been some whisperings of an interesting one that would end up at KU if needed. Would have to miss on Langford though.
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@BShark Who would that be? I’m looking at the 247 board but I don’t see anything.
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@Kcmatt7 I’m not sure if this has been posted about.
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@BShark Jalen Brunson
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@FarmerJayhawk ha. please!
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@Kcmatt7 I don’t think Vick wants to be the leader. I think he would defer to someone more outspoken if he returns, even if we would be better off having his experience around the green guys. I hope he comes back; I think he could be a big help. I hope through all of his emotional ups and downs, he has had an “ah ha” moment after the win against Duke, and decided that he wants to be a Jayhawk one more year, with some sense of passage to a new stage of life with the same scenery. But it’s just as likely he decides a change of scenery is the right prescription and moves on, whether it appears to be best for him from an outsider’s perspective or not.
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Mitch and doke have done a great job w/Silvio. Have always thought it needs to be a guy on the court, u think?
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@Lulufulu A senior Vick is better than a freshman Langford. We also need some upperclassman experience and leadership.
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@LSH If he is the same player as this year, I’ll take a Langford.
If Vick has a great offseason, I’d probably take a Vick.
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justanotherfan said:
Langford is waiting to see a couple of things.
- What happens with grad transfers
- What happens with guys and the NBA
I don’t know what Vick is going to do at this point. I’m really not sure what he should do.
If KU wins the title, Newman probably has to leave. With the tournament he’s had, he almost has to go. Even if they don’t win it, Newman has shown something this month that may mean he needs to go. He was an elite talent coming out of HS. He has gotten back to that elite level. His efficiency has exploded, and he’s done all of this while averaging fewer than 1.5 turnovers per game, and his rebounding numbers are up.
Every important stat is up from his year at MSU - FG%, PPG, FT%, 3PT%, REB, STL, TO - Malik has become a better all around player, and now his scoring is back to the level a lot of people envisioned when he was coming out of HS (averaged 30 a game in HS). Let’s not forget that he was better than Devin Booker coming out of HS. He has shown the handle and shooting stroke, along with a renewed commitment on the defensive end, that could get him paid this year.
Don’t forget the most important stat went down from the previous years…number of run ins with the Po-Po. He’s stayed pretty clean in the last year and a half or so.
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Here’s the weird thing about Vick - even though we have complained about his consistency, Vick has seen his numbers improve from last season, both overall and on a rate basis, with the exception of FT shooting.
He’s better across the board, particularly on his 2 pt shooting, where he’s at 56%. True shooting is up 2%. Effective FG% is up 4%. Defensive rebounding % is up 1.5%. Offensive rebounding % is up 0.3%. He’s nearly doubled his assist %, while cutting half a percent off his turnover %. All the while, his usage is up 3 points.
Defensively he has taken a bit of a step back, but part of that could also be that this KU team isn’t great defensively, which drags each individual’s numbers down.
Does that make him an NBA draft pick? I don’t know. But I think it shows that he can play in the NBA.
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@bmensch1 Did I miss Malik run-ins with the law?