Jaybate This Is Your Day
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@Kcmatt7 The fact they set up a recruiting visit for Langford ( if he is half the player Keith was, I want him ) speaks volumes, in my books.
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It kind of blows me away that Louisville is going to get the death penalty (potentially anyways) after this but they didn’t get it after using hookers to recruit players.
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I saw the shoe crap coming a mile away.
Another cheating that HAS to be going on as well is freshman eligibility. If you are under 35 years old you probably don’t remember when the SAT was actually hard for these academic genius basketball players. Prop 48 came around in 1986 and back then players actually couldn’t get the necessary scores on the SAT or ACT. Studs like Larry Johnson(Jr college route), Glenn “Big Dog” Robinson(out his freshman year), etc, etc couldn’t get the grades.
So of course after being barraged with calls of racism the NCAA changed the requirements a bit. Instead of just the SAT and ACT having a score you absolutely must get, they introduced a sliding scale. They now use a combination of high school gpa and a sliding scale test score needed. So if you get a 3.0 in high school you only need a 620 SAT. Of course if you actually earned an HONEST 3.0 then scoring a freaking 800 should be easy. So you can see where this would lead. Fixing high school grades. That way if that is ever caught the colleges have nothing to do with it. See Darrell Arthur.
People at all levels are using these kids and could care less if they actually get an education.
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@wissox It’s the cumulative effect of having so many major violations in such a short timeframe that’ll get them a potential death penalty.
Arizona is also likely to get a pretty steep punishment as well based on the number of players they have involved as well as an assistant coach involved as well.
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@BigBad As a veteran inner city school teacher, all you have to do to earn a 3.0 is come to school and work hard. We have so many low performing students that we reward kids for their hard work. There often is a huge disconnect between ACT scores and GPA in our schools.
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BShark said:
Do I believe Duke directly cheated there? Probably not. I would imagine Duke just takes advantage of being a premier brand and Nike.
And now Nike is being pulled in - - seen this off the Louisville board - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@wissox Exactly. This is why you hardly ever see any ineligible freshman. Not that the kids are smarter now. They have such low expectations to meet.
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@mayjay According to a KC Star article a couple weeks ago, Larry Brown is available.
Actually, in this story, Brown mentions being best buddies with Silvio De Sousa’s 32-year-old “guardian,” Fenny Palmagne. Also the guardian of Bruno Fernando who is going to play for Turg at Maryland this year.
Not that any of that makes me nervous or anything about De Sousa’s sudden surprise decision to go to KU or anything.
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Nike handlers had dirt on the FBI handlers who…and so on and so forth.
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And add Bama to the list of programs that are taking a hit. No surprise. Ferguson and Sexton come to mind. Starting to make more sense.
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@Kcmatt7 Hmmmm, and Bama ends up at Kentucky. - - well now wonder how that happened? - - -Did Kentucky send some money his way or some kind of way. - -Something about Kentucky smells in this whole thing too. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Kcmatt7 said:
And add Bama to the list of programs that are taking a hit. No surprise. Ferguson and Sexton come to mind. Starting to make more sense.
Looks like this came from an internal investigation too. Makes sense, sacrifice basketball people because lawd forbid anyone sniffs around their football program too long!
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jayballer54 said:
@Kcmatt7 Hmmmm, and Bama ends up at Kentucky. - - well now wonder how that happened? - - -Did Kentucky send some money his way or some kind of way. - -Something about Kentucky smells in this whole thing too. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
World Wide Wes.
We will find out quickly just how bulletproof Cal is.
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Rumours are flying about UK right now. Might be nailed for Quickley. Might be someone at Miami turning. Miami supposedly offered 150k but UK went to 250k to close.
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Louisville is already on schedule to forfeit well over 100 games, its national title and final four appearances; it is now under appeal and based on the new events likely will not prevail.
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I never minded Louisville during the Denny Crum years, but Pitino is such an arrogant jerk I’ve despised them. IMHO they stole the title from Michigan, or if you will, were handed the title by some pretty bad officiating. The block by Trey Burke on the fast break was a spectacular block and the refs called it a foul. I turned the game off at that point. Pitino’s sordid affair in the bar bathroom and subsequent abortion was awful, the prostitutes. Man this school made Tarkanian look like St. Paul.
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@BShark links?
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@BShark I want that to be true.
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Until an agent with ties to Nike lean power players and Nike contracted schools, and a Nike official both fall in this case, i can’t yet take the stand that this involves the cavalry coming.
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It has to be Quickly. The report states that Miami had offered a player 150k, and was outbid. Oh my goodness. Is the Squid’s day of judgement finally on us?
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For these implicated programs, hopefully this opportunity to clean house thoroughly is not wasted. Also, I think this is an opportunity for the NCAA to reassert itself and find a new identity amidst the ashes of moral bankruptcy. Maybe they could start by banning Nike, Adidas and Under Armour from sponsoring any college teams. Can they do that?
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KUSTEVE said:
It has to be Quickly. The report states that Miami had offered a player 150k, and was outbid. Oh my goodness. Is the Squid’s day of judgement finally on us?
The player in the report is Nas Little. Quickley is new speculation.
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@approxinfinity I doubt the NCAA can regulate that. Somebody has to make the uniforms for programs.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m pretty sure there are a few other sports apparel companies that would gladly take on ncaam contracts?
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@jaybate-1.0 Gatto has ties to Nike. I highly doubt he just started buying players at Adidas so if he starts squealing about what he did at Nike and who was involved there, then there could be some major implications at Nike as well.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I didn’t mean football. That’s a lot more equipment… I mean, until the other (football) shoe falls.
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The NCAA’s likely job appears to be to blame this on those without deep enough legal pockets to fight back (I.e., assistant coaches), and save the big petroshoeco checks for the “member institutions.”
College basketball would not even be in this nightmare had the NCAA ever adequately done its nominal job.
Hoping for the NCAA to clean up college basketball is like hoping for a metadrug cartel to clean up the drug business.
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@jaybate-1.0 so the first step is determining what we would like the NCAA to be and do, and step two is to hit social media hard and demand justice right? Isn’t this how it works in today’s America? Should we start tweeting the hell out of #ncaa #shoeco #corruption #basketball ?
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If Gatto left Nike for adidas, then I would think it likely this story comes to a screeching halt. Gatto takes his medice, a couple assistants take the fall, and its play ball and resume wall of silence on not just a swamp, but a tar pit.
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@jaybate-1.0 I would say it largely depends on how much prison time Gatto is looking at. We know he’s not of high character so I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he starts throwing everyone under the bus to avoid as much prison time as possible without regard for Nike or Adidas affiliation.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Jim Gatto’s new shoe affiliation: https://www.bobbarker.com/products.html
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@Texas-Hawk-10 gatto has been w/adidas a long time. It was another guy that recently switched from Nike to adidas. http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2017/09/adidas_nike_officials_charged.html
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I’m not yet knowledgeable enough to suggest specific reform, but yes, that’s partly how it works. The Drake Group awhile back proposed abolishing the NCAA and replacing it with a federally chartered corporation with a Presidentially appointed commissioner that runs the game, if I recall correctly. I’ve been expecting them to surface shortly and argue racism with all the assistants being AfAm and abolish the NCAA.
Many want control of this D1 cash cow . I wonder if the FBI were tipped off by some that wish to become the new head honchos of D1. No evidence yet.
Advocating reform paths first requires identifying both the axis of private oligarchy that controls it now, AND the one that is willing to tip the FBI to start the destabilization of the NCAA to acquire control of it. We want both those groups kept as far from the game as possible.
Gaming, media, shoes and agents have to fenced completely out of control; this much is obvious. But at this scale of global gaming, media, shoes and agencies, we are dealing as much with the biggest of the big private oligarchies, and that in turn means their intelligence and mil-int Deep Staters. I truly believe it goes this deep. Global sports is too big for the Big Dogs to leave alone. It represents propaganda power, black money laundering through gaming, oil demand for migrating from natural to synthetic fibers, mind control through marketing, and so on. Any one of these are too big and important to leave to chance, or appropriation by an enemy.
So: Our only chance to save basketball from total engineered subordination (Rollerball-ization) to the NWO (which is already here and established in most sectors) is to come up with a reform framework that either enlists TPTB in sports legitimacy, or pits them all against each other as checks and balances.
I’m just not smart enough to know what would be feasible and for the best. I am sorry.
But there does appear a possible window.
Rock Chalk!
Save the Greatest Game Ever Invented!
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@jaybate-1.0 I would love to see a group controlling CBB that opens up broadcast rights to local channels and a la carte offerings.
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It seems much stronger consumer advocacy groups could keep people perpetually vigilant and rejecting the major shoecos, affiliated AAU programs, and college programs, and would be able to encourage people to reject big media if they didn’t have a coverage Monopoly. There is a need.
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Anyone have a Nike flag they can film, burn, and post on Twitter?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Thanks for posting what I didn’t want to take the time to. I’m so tired sometimes I just let people believe whatever they want to post. I miss having Mike in da mix. Just ain’t the same without his take. Didja see Paulo kick ass & take names tonight? Just like old times girl !! Is the last hurrah
for Daytons guys now so bittersweet just makes me grab the brandy & ice water 
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I did! Not missing Sunday. Heading to late pm sat.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Enjoy
& drive safe. Gotta have savvy in this day & age, good intentions ain’t enough. A little.32 cal in that Coach bag would help too.Woman in OP yesterday KO’ed a thuggery with a groin kick on Indianan Creek jogging trail. Dumped a can of whoopass on him, yeeeaaaah!! Now he can sing soprano .
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@Kcmatt7 @KUSTEVE @BeddieKU23 Ok so Collin Sexton took 25k from Bama. I’m feeling better about KU slowly here. If KU was dirty, no way Sexton gets away that cheap right?
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@BShark should our recent re- up with Adidas for $191 mill over 14 years worry us?
Can we “decommit” from Adidas; how about Puma? LaGerald doesn’t mind rocking soccer shorts I’m sure. Their shoes run narrow but surely they have a wide model.
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approxinfinity said:
@BShark should our recent re- up with Adidas for $191 mill over 14 years worry us?
Can we “decommit” from Adidas; how about Puma? LaGerald doesn’t mind rocking soccer shorts I’m sure. Their shoes run narrow but surely they have a wide model.
I’d be more worried about a “recruit from 2010”.
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BShark said:
@Kcmatt7 @KUSTEVE @BeddieKU23 Ok so Collin Sexton took 25k from Bama. I’m feeling better about KU slowly here. If KU was dirty, no way Sexton gets away that cheap right?
Is it confirmed he got the money…
What I was reading is his father met with Michel who wanted to steer him to someone for the NBA? They facilitated money for that. But you have to think there had to be $ involved before hand too.
But yes so far nothing that points to KU doing anything dirty… Maryland fans on page 60 something still claiming KU is
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The NCAA must be really pissed, they have a lot more work to do now lol
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The funny thing is the state of Alabama probably just found out yesterday they have a basketball program.
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@mayjay Bob Barker products… Come on down Jim, you’re the next contestant on The Price is Right!
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Does anyone remember who the lead assistant was on the 2010 recruit that wasn’t Woolridge?
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approxinfinity said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Jim Gatto’s new shoe affiliation: https://www.bobbarker.com/products.html
PHOF times 10!
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If Sexton’s dad accepted money he has to be ineligible right? How is this any different then Cliff Alexander.
