Let the firings begin
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@BShark Yep, I think you’re right. Big 10 needs a competitive Indiana and Illinois and if it is true about Mack to IU, then they’ve made a really nice hire.
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That would be indeed a good hire. I understand is pretty much down top Mack and Archie Miller from Dayton. If it was Miller, I imagine they would have already announced so it makes sense that they are waiting on Mack. Steve Alford would have been the home run hire, but Mack is at least a triple…
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@DCHawker I told you all yesterday, maybe they should get Ewing! In the recruiting thread:
I wonder if Patrick Ewing would consider it to resurrect his alma mater. Has been an NBA asst for years. I could see that being a huge recruiting attraction to potential OADs. Have no idea how much of a winner as a college coach he would be, but some OADs don’t care, they just want contacts and visibility (Simmons, anyone?).
Apparently, someone is thinking about it:
What would you think of that as an alum?
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Yes, Ewing seems to be the popular pick but is it necessarily the best? He has been an assistant in the NBA for a number of years and I know he has interviewed many time for open HC positions in the past but he has yet to get a HC job. He has been away from college bball for a while now and the younger generation probably does not know him well since the last time he played in the NBA was 15 years ago and even in his glory years he was overshadowed by other more popular players and, he never won a Championship in the League. He is 54 now.
Also, and unlike other well know layers from that time that did not win titles such as Barkley, he has not had a visible media presence; Not too many people know…or care… who NBA assistants are. Yes, he is well known among Georgetown fans but I am not sure the younger prospect know who he is since many were probably not born when he last played meaningful minutes in the NBA.
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@mayjay said:
@DCHawker I told you all yesterday, maybe they should get Ewing! In the recruiting thread:
I wonder if Patrick Ewing would consider it to resurrect his alma mater. Has been an NBA asst for years. I could see that being a huge recruiting attraction to potential OADs. Have no idea how much of a winner as a college coach he would be, but some OADs don’t care, they just want contacts and visibility (Simmons, anyone?).
Apparently, someone is thinking about it:
What would you think of that as an alum?
Yes, have seen those reports - along with a few other names bandied about. I guess Ewing would be “big” hire, but more than a little risky. He has no head coaching experience and no college experience. Maybe the name alone would help interest recruits, but I’m not sure how much connection he has to 18 year olds - let alone the ability to do the grind with the kids and the families. As a GU alum (grad school), I would much prefer going after a young coach who has a demonstrated track record of (re)building a program at one of the mid-majors, or even lower. One of the names mentioned was Ed Cooley, the URI coach - which i totally don’t get. A solid coach with a team that is very competitive in the BE, but that’s it. Tommy Amaker has also been mentioned in a few reports, but the same thing - did okay with Seton Hall and Michigan and fine with Harvard, but he’s had his chances and has not delivered the kind of success the Hoyas are yearning looking for (perhaps never to be recaptured). Ewing might be a more interesting roll of the dice, but it would be a crapshoot - just hope it wouldn’t come up craps and you have another icon who is tough to move on from if necessary.
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I’m sure this has reported on here somewhere, but Okie St hired Mike Boynton. Boynton was the right hand man of Underwood.
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@KUSTEVE Yeah, I saw that. Wish that guy the best of luck.
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Indiana is going to hire Archie Miller from Dayton as their next coach.
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7 years. Not a fan of this move for them. It might work out, he isn’t a terrible coach but 7 years is a lot to lock in for and I think Mack would have been better. I wish them nothing but the best though, their fans have been pleasant to interact with from my experience.
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@BShark Mack is an Xavier alum, he’s probably a lifer there.
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Miller is by far the best of the up and coming coaches. A Home Run hire in my opinion. Would have made a great candidate when Coach Self retires.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 The quality of coaching in the Big10 has improved with Underwood and Miller.
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Lil Kim landed back in D2 at Pitt St. Now he will get to play KU.
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@BShark Is that Kim Anderson?
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Having coffee with an old coaching friend (vicious rival at one time) we got to talking about Self and how there were some on twitter saying he should be fired. (Hence how I found this place by googling just “fire bill self”).
It got brought up if KU were to fire Self. How many openings wouldnthere be right away as ADs all over the country would want to hire him? Would it make the coaching carousel spin out of control?
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Yep.
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@FarNrthJHwk we are not letting him go!
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@Crimsonorblue22 I’d hope not.
I’ve got the chance to meet a lot of coaches in the 15 years I coached HS ball. I got to meet Coach Self at a coaching clinic in 2006. Was brief but he is a great person. He shook hands with people and talked with us lonely HS coaches just to see how we were doing. Listening to him talk Xs and Os was an amazing experience.
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Ewing it is!
http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/04/03/georgetown-hires-patrick-ewing-as-new-head-coach/
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@mayjay That’s a big hire, pun intended.
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Interesting to see how he will do considering he has no HC experience. No question he still has a well known name among Georgetown fans but I am not sure recruits ever saw him play or really know much about him…winning will fix that in no time.
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@JayHawkFanToo Ewing has been a long time NBA assistant coach so he can give prospects a lot better insight into what it takes to get to the NBA and to make it in the NBA than most college coaches. He also won a national title at Georgetown in 1984 so he can show off that ring to recruits. He’s also spent the past 4 seasons as an assistant coach for the Charlotte Bobcats so he should have some built in ties to North Carolina and also could have some help from MJ since MJ was his boss for 4 years.
Ewing’s lack of HC experience is not going to be his biggest challenge, his biggest challenge is that Ewing has never worked in the college game so that transition will be a much bigger challenge than being a first time HC will.
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Sounds about right. The one thing he should not do is ask for advice from Michael Jordan who was a great player but a mediocre manager.
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@JayHawkFanToo I don’t mean help in running a program, I mean help with Nike recruits from the NC area, especially since Georgetown is one of the programs who specifically wears Jordan brand Nike uniforms.
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Only if UNC is not interested. Jordan is a big fan of the UNC basketball program…
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Brad Underwood has hired Orlando Antigua. Get reaaaady for some bag drops.
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@BShark I don’t know that that means, ‘bag drops’?
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Dropping off some
to a recruit.
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@BShark OK, got that, so who is Orlando Antigua?
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He was an assistant under Calipari from 08-14.
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Speak of the devil, Sean Miller has offered Lorenzo Romar a position on the AZ staff. WOW.
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@BShark where has Orlando been?
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USF head coach doing poorly.
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Does Arizona have a daddy job that pays more than MU? Maybe Porter will end up there…
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@BShark That is a scary recruiting tandem
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It really is. They could easily become #2 behind Duke.
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Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. - Marcellus to Horatio in Shakespeare’s Hamlet
At what time does the NCAA become involved and starts looking at the “hire dad and the kid comes along” and “hire failed coach and his recruits come along” issues?
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Let he who is without Manning and Chalmers cast the first stone.
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LOL to That. I guess we could add Lafayette Norwood to that list, for those who remember that far back. The Porter hire makes KU’s hires look like the work of amateurs. At least KU got 4 years form Manning and Valentine and 3 from Chalmers and they were not shopped to the highest bidder.
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Got titles out of both too! Which I doubt Missouri gets…
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Spot on. Washington with all his highly rated recruits was still a bottom feeder in the PAC 12 and Martin, also with good players, was an also run in the same Conference. No reason to think MU will improve enough in one year to contend in the SEC and then the window of opportunity closes and in 3 years Martin leaves.
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Yep. SEC basketball in general appears to be on the way up.
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@JayHawkFanToo said:
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. - Marcellus to Horatio in Shakespeare’s Hamlet
At what time does the NCAA become involved and starts looking at the “hire dad and the kid comes along” and “hire failed coach and his recruits come along” issues?
They kind of did. It’s now a requirement that if a recruits parent is hired on to the staff it has to be a full assistant job. -no video coordinator, player development nonsense. They take an active recruiters roll and the spot someone who has to coach.
Shady as it may be I don’t think you should ban kids parent from working because they raised a recruit.
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I am not asking to ban parent for working because they raised a recruit, no one can do that, period. What I am saying is ban or at least restrict parents from peddling their kids to whoever gives the parent a job.
The Porter dad was an assistant coach for the women’s basketball team at MU where his sister is the HC and his daughter plays. The sister was better qualified to go to Washington but she did not have two talented kids. He was given a $300K per year contract at Washington by Lorenzo Romar, who I understand is the godfather to one of the kids, and the kids committed to Washington shortly after. Then, Romar is fired, dad Porter is told his contract will not be renewed so he bolts for MU to be an assistant to new Coach Martin and his kids follow him there.
The entire saga has nepotism and quid pro quo written all over it.
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@JayHawkFanToo Preston?
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LOL , fixed. Not enough coffee or auto correct; at my age hard to tell.
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I hadn’t seen this but there’s another Jayhawk coaching DI basketball. CB McGrath, whom the UNC bio calls a key reserve for KU (??? really?) was hired by UNC Wilmington. Good hire for them I guess, but I really don’t know too much about him.
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@wissox McGrath has his own thread with a few comments:
https://kubuckets.com/topic/5660/ku-walk-on-takes-head-coaching-job-at-uncw
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@mayjay Obviously I missed that. Thanks.
