Sean Miller & Will Wade to be Subpoenaed at upcoming Trial
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
BeddieKU23 said:
IT’S GETTING JUICY!!!
Matt Norlander has tweeted about Steve Smith assistant coach at Clemson discussing potential payments to Zion Williamson.
Also USC’s Tony Bland on tape discussing payments to lure Marvin Bagley Jr.
Hilarious how both ended up at Duke for FREE RIGHT??? RIGHT???
I think Nike paid Bagley’s dad to coach an AAU team or something. Which is fine for some reason.
Yea JJs mom was his AAU coach if I recall correctly… Very very likely that’s how money was funneled to him. At least, one avenue.
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I’m sorry to be broken record on this, but if we are the sole target, if we are the ones that are penalized, we should burn it all down. We know where the bodies are. We should sing like canaries and implicate everyone we can. On the other hand, perhaps we lose some scholarships for the SDS matter, some recruiting limits, and we move down the road.
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@HighEliteMajor With what evidence? Burn it all down with what? You keep saying it, but I don’t see how we could possibly burn it all down considering the NCAA does not have subpoena powers. Our coaches wouldn’t want to implicate themselves in anything illegal.
How do you propose we burn it down?
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@Kcmatt7 We know who got what, we know what Zion got, we know the details. We have the info on any top player. We know the contacts, we know what was suggested to us, we know what we deal failed to meet to get a player. We trying to get deals done. We know what parent got what job, or what house, or what benefits. We are one of the biggest players in the game. Self knows. KT knows. You think that Adidas didn’t let us know what Nike was up to? All assuming that the premise that all of this is wide-spread and rampant is true. Time to break the mafia like code of silence (again, under this narrative).
The NCAA can investigate, and force coaches to cooperate, or get hit for the failing to cooperate. The NCAA does have subpoena like power to member institutions.
This would be in part a publicity item, to apply pressure.
Or we can take it up the a** while others skate in a scheme that, under this theory, covered most of CBB? Not me.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@Kcmatt7 We know who got what, we know what Zion got, we know the details. We have the info on any top player. We know the contacts, we know what was suggested to us, we know what we deal failed to meet to get a player. We trying to get deals done. We know what parent got what job, or what house, or what benefits. We are one of the biggest players in the game. Self knows. KT knows. You think that Adidas didn’t let us know what Nike was up to? All assuming that the premise that all of this is wide-spread and rampant is true. Time to break the mafia like code of silence (again, under this narrative).
The NCAA can investigate, and force coaches to cooperate, or get hit for the failing to cooperate. The NCAA does have subpoena like power to member institutions.
This would be in part a publicity item, to apply pressure.
Or we can take it up the a** while others skate in a scheme that, under this theory, covered most of CBB? Not me.
This is a pipe dream that’s not based anywhere in reality.
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@jayballer73 Doubtful, my man. Even the NCAA - what was it that the Boz called them, National Communists Against Athletes? - couldn’t be that stupid. They would have to bring down all of college basketball and football.
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@BeddieKU23 No way, Coach K wouldn’t do such a thing Lol.
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Hated Arizona for Josiah Turner (cough BUST) and Tarczewski (useless, stone hands) but what I hate about them the most are the fans that follow them. And man did they like talking sht about Kansas paying players…Welp
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Marco said:
@BeddieKU23 No way, Coach K wouldn’t do such a thing Lol.
I know I take it back. I would never want to assume the obvious
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@CoreyBill Where is the heck do you run into Arizona fans? I’ve never met a single one in KS, other than my grandparents, whom live in the Tucson area, I’ve never even seen anyone claim to be an Arizona fan. My grandparents pull for the Jayhawks too, but think Stumpy is clean as of last year…
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@dylan it’s a joke from the old theshiver vs PGU days. Old school internet trolling nonsense. No different than fans on twitter nowadays. D Seedy underbelly of the fan base used to infiltrate our boards constantly. 7 or 8 years later, it all seems pretty silly
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CoreyBill said:
Hated Arizona for Josiah Turner (cough BUST) and Tarczewski (useless, stone hands) but what I hate about them the most are the fans that follow them. And man did they like talking sht about Kansas paying players…Welp
We lost Turner but that led to us landing Tharpe … perhaps the classic no win situation.
Tarc? Uh, LL.
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CoreyBill said:
@dylan it’s a joke from the old theshiver vs PGU days. Old school internet trolling nonsense. No different than fans on twitter nowadays. D Seedy underbelly of the fan base used to infiltrate our boards constantly. 7 or 8 years later, it all seems pretty silly
Oh jeez, I remember that. That was right about when they got on a recruiting roll and we were in the doldrums. And then 2013 happened and all was well again before 247 bought The Shiver.
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Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
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Kcmatt7 said:
Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
Still has his job right??
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BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
Still has his job right??
for now. - - enevitable his noose is COOKED - - - deep fat friend and Roasted - - -just a matter of time
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Kcmatt7 said:
Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
Any details you can share?
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bcjayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
Any details you can share?
Christain Dawkins when discussing DeAndre Ayton says on tape “I talked to Sean (Miller), Sean’s the one that fronted that deal”.
Bam
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Some wild stuff again on Will Wade.
Book Richardson says LSU coach offered him a job to help with recruitment of Naz Reid. Per Richardson, “look there’s a deal in place”. “I got $300,000 for him”. Richardson, “I said give me half and I’ll make sure the kid goes there”
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BeddieKU23 said:
bcjayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
Any details you can share?
Christain Dawkins when discussing DeAndre Ayton says on tape “I talked to Sean (Miller), Sean’s the one that fronted that deal”.
Bam
Dam - -Boo-Ya - -you think how this effects them in the end? - -how many commits jump ship? - if this turns out how it looks
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BeddieKU23 said:
Some wild stuff again on Will Wade.
Book Richardson says LSU coach offered him a job to help with recruitment of Naz Reid. Per Richardson, “look there’s a deal in place”. “I got $300,000 for him”. Richardson, “I said give me half and I’ll make sure the kid goes there”
Seems like a strong ass offer to me!
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BeddieKU23 said:
bcjayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
Any details you can share?
Christain Dawkins when discussing DeAndre Ayton says on tape “I talked to Sean (Miller), Sean’s the one that fronted that deal”.
Bam
Oh,…okay then…
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BeddieKU23 said:
bcjayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
Any details you can share?
Christain Dawkins when discussing DeAndre Ayton says on tape “I talked to Sean (Miller), Sean’s the one that fronted that deal”.
Bam
Cc: Josh Green, Zeke Nnaji
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
bcjayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
Any details you can share?
Christain Dawkins when discussing DeAndre Ayton says on tape “I talked to Sean (Miller), Sean’s the one that fronted that deal”.
Bam
Cc: Josh Green, Zeke Nnaji
Poor nnaji for signing on the dot early
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
bcjayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
Any details you can share?
Christain Dawkins when discussing DeAndre Ayton says on tape “I talked to Sean (Miller), Sean’s the one that fronted that deal”.
Bam
Cc: Josh Green, Zeke Nnaji
And for the record I’d rather have Hampton and walker
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jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
bcjayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Miller and AZ getting roasted in court again today…
Any details you can share?
Christain Dawkins when discussing DeAndre Ayton says on tape “I talked to Sean (Miller), Sean’s the one that fronted that deal”.
Bam
Dam - -Boo-Ya - -you think how this effects them in the end? - -how many commits jump ship? - if this turns out how it looks
No idea. I dont want their guys anymore. Hampton and Walker are better
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Book Richardson was paying so many recruits he had to tap into his retirement. The NCAA cant be bothered tho. They bout them edjumacation and amatzerism life
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If you think that KU re-uping with Adidas is a bad look you should quit watching college basketball knowing the NCAA cant be bothered to attend or acknowledge what’s being revealed in court this past week. #Keeponbelieving
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The hammer should be coming soon now. Sean Miller’s former assistant Book Richardson told Christian Dawkins on a phone call intercepted by wiretaps that Miller was paying Deandre Ayton 10k a month while enrolled at Arizona.
If Arizona turns a blind eye this time there is no hope for this sport
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This is still all hearsay right?
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@BeddieKU23 I am SHOCKED. /s
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BShark said:
This is still all hearsay right?
No smoking gun per se but my gods. Not sure how much plausible deniability they have left over there.
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No wonder Book just plead guilty lol.
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What the hell does a college kid need 10k a month for?
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@BigBad Textbooks.
Hence, Book Richardson.
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Christian Dawkins is testifying in his defense currently. Should be some more gold to come from this
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Dawkins said Izzo told him he was NOT going to pay for Bowen.
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BShark said:
This is still all hearsay right?
I guess technically but how many people need to say the same thing before its no longer such.
Book has said he made 250k and was paying players with his retirement.
Dawkins has said he had unlimited reach to the program including practices.
Book on tape with Dawkins discussing paying Rawle Alkins, Quinnerly, Deandre Ayton among others.
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BeddieKU23 said:
The hammer should be coming soon now. Sean Miller’s former assistant Book Richardson told Christian Dawkins on a phone call intercepted by wiretaps that Miller was paying Deandre Ayton 10k a month while enrolled at Arizona.
If Arizona turns a blind eye this time there is no hope for this sport
WOW
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
This is still all hearsay right?
I guess technically but how many people need to say the same thing before its no longer such.
Book has said he made 250k and was paying players with his retirement.
Dawkins has said he had unlimited reach to the program including practices.
Book on tape with Dawkins discussing paying Rawle Alkins, Quinnerly, Deandre Ayton among others.
I think I recall someone who I think is a lawyer posting that the information obtained via the wiretaps is considered by the court as hearsay. If that is the case, the number of times the information is repeated has no effect on the court’s position.
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Pete Thamel wrote an article asking how Sean can keep his job. Arizona fans are all over him on Twitter, claiming KU and Self are far worse off. Total denial Sean did anything wrong, claiming it’s all “hearsay”. Very entertaining.
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bcjayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
This is still all hearsay right?
I guess technically but how many people need to say the same thing before its no longer such.
Book has said he made 250k and was paying players with his retirement.
Dawkins has said he had unlimited reach to the program including practices.
Book on tape with Dawkins discussing paying Rawle Alkins, Quinnerly, Deandre Ayton among others.
I think I recall someone who I think is a lawyer posting that the information obtained via the wiretaps is considered by the court as hearsay. If that is the case, the number of times the information is repeated has no effect on the court’s position.
You could be right, in court its hearsay. What’s Arizona going to do? Find a hole and stay there? They can’t avoid this.
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Dawkins took the stand.
https://sports.yahoo.com/how-christian-dawkins-exposed-college-amateurism-231944769.html
Pete Thamel on Sean Miller
https://sports.yahoo.com/how-much-longer-can-arizona-employ-sean-miller-234649798.html
At least Arizona sent some people. The NCAA is on some Yacht somehwere
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““I’ve hoped this from Day 1, that coaches are held accountable and consequences are according to what they do,” Izzo said. “But I think players should be held accountable, I think parents should be held accountable. Accountable shouldn’t be a one-person deal – we all should be held accountable. And that’s what I’d like to see.””
“Flat out refused to pay for a recruit!”
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@drgnslayr but who’s accountable for all the rapes reported by the past bb players and ast coach I believe?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@drgnslayr but who’s accountable for all the rapes reported by the past bb players and ast coach I believe?
Oh man. Brutal! Right on @Crimsonorblue22 !
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So how is Izzo accountable for the stupid, criminal acts of thug players? If one of our players rapes a girl, it’s Self’s fault?
I don’t recall any info that Izzo didn’t cooperate, or tried to cover anything up.
The coach deal (grad assistant I think) was a non issue.
Perhaps we should applaud Izzo for not doing what our program has permitted to occur, and apparently took part in.
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@HighEliteMajor Izzo may not be responsible for directly for a player’s actions, but he is responsible for how he handles the matter when it happens and there’s been plenty of stories of MSU admins looking the other way in regards student athletes committing sexual assault. Tom Izzo works for the school that allowed Larry Nassar to happen.
Izzo’s hands are not clean and I also think it’s very naive to think MSU has never had a player funneled to them by Nike. Just because Izzo refused to get involved with Brian Bowen, doesn’t mean he hasn’t been involved with other players.
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Kids aren’t going to play for MSU for free.
