NCAA Rule Changes- Oh boyyy
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Soooooo… not valid?
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-usa-basketball-reportedly-blindsided-ncaa-rule-changes-204616433.html
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Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, when it adversely impacts one’s earnings and security, not when it enhances!
Seriously though, I expect @HighEliteMajor to make a good case worth reading, same as you would.
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Suggested amendment would be needed in @HighEliteMajor’s tagline if his alternative rule were adopted:
“…except for any college basketball player who wants to stay in college after auditioning to determine whether he is good enough to turn pro.”
All in fun!
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@Gorilla72 That article certainly suggests that the NCAA self-administered a major shit-pie into its own face.
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@mayjay @jaybate-1-0 Deal. See, we could solve all the NCAA issues. I’m good with guys coming back. Glad we got Vick back. Just not sure it’s in the best interests of CBB.
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@HighEliteMajor Thanks for taking that in the spirit I intended. Sometimes my jokes fly like lead balloons.
Hey world out there: See, people of different mindsets can choose to get along!
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Won’t we be recruiting agents instead of players?
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KUSTEVE said:
Won’t we be recruiting agents instead of players?
Maybe the goal is to make agents into paid recruiters so that all that shoe money can just slide around schools and back out again until it sticks somewhere. Whoever ends up with it gets penalized so that the new NCAA investigators-for-rent have something to do.
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@mayjay I am envisioning the agent at Bill’s practice, telling him how to “showcase” his star. “Bill, don’t run the hi-lo. I’m going to need for you to set some picks on the perimeter so my guy can shoot the 3 pointer. Now, let’s do it again until you get it right”. This might be what makes Bill go to the NBA.
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@KUSTEVE He would get to the NBA and find that he would be harrangued in the same way not only by agents, but also by the GM, the owner(s), the marketing department, the local and national media, the fans, AND the stars themselves. Quieter in college, and 1/3 the number of games.
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I actually agree with the whole, if you don’t get picked, you can return thing. If you don’t get paid to play it shouldn’t matter. Now the agent thing is a little scary as @KUSTEVE has said, how much will it be about recruiting an agent rather than a player. It will interesting to see how it effects a school like UK, that’s loads up, OADs. Most schools will likely have an agent that caters to them in some way. I really think doing away with the OAD rule would fix a good deal of the issues that are in CBB right now. I’ve read that the NBA players want it to help the older guys keep a roster spot longer but IMO if one year of another player not being in the league is gonna make you broke or jobless, that extra year isn’t gonna make a huge difference.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@mayjay @jaybate-1-0 Deal. See, we could solve all the NCAA issues. I’m good with guys coming back. Glad we got Vick back. Just not sure it’s in the best interests of CBB.
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I’m not either, but I’m looking for some sound reasoning either way. Let me know if something perks out. We are at the essence of amateurism here.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Idk, they didn’t even get a practice player out of the deal…
True, I was only kidding anyways. Sam, at least wasn’t a bust or distraction to the team
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Here is a link with Coach Self’s thoughts on the changes. No doubt that the agent portion and the players being able to come back and scholarship availability are big concerns.
I still think the baseball approach should be implemented. One year players take big advantage of the school; thee school spends a lot of time an resources providing top trainers and coaches, training facilities, school/tutors, room and board and lots of exposure and by the time they start to be really productive they are gone. Top players should be allowed to go straight to the NBA but if they elect to go to college they should stay 3 years which not only makes the sport more stable but also gets them most of the way towards a degree, after all isn’t it why kids go to college…he says trying to keep a straight face.
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@kjayhawks I think we’ll see the World Wide Wes pipeline reopen for Cal. With WWW being an agent, he can funnel players to Kentucky for Cal again.
As shady as it will be, I think Self may need to form a partnership with an agent to funnel players to KU.
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I though agents had to be certified by the NCAA; what are the chances WWW gets certified?..in a perfect world, that is…
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@JayHawkFanToo They have been certified by the NBA Players’ Association, I believe. Not much reason until now for the NCAA to get into it since an agency relationship has always ended eligibility.
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mayjay said:
@JayHawkFanToo They have been certified by the NBA Players’ Association, I believe. Not much reason until now for the NCAA to get into it since an agency relationship has always ended eligibility.
“Among the significant changes that were adopted by the NCAA’s board of governors and Division I board of directors are allowing elite high school basketball recruits and college players to be represented by agents who are certified by the NCAA; allowing eligible underclassmen to enter the NBA draft and return to school if undrafted; introducing more rigorous certification requirements for summer amateur basketball events; and imposing longer postseason bans, suspensions and increased recruiting restrictions for coaches who break rules.”
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@JayHawkFanToo I think that would be a change that is coming as @mayjay is pointing out.
Also the NBA would have to get rid of the age requirement for the high school players to be draft eligible…so why do they need an agent? To help UK get a recruiting edge, he answers his own question.
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We are talking about consequences of the new changes and that was my point. To represent HS kids he would have to be certified by the NCAA as the ESPN write up indicates.
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@JayHawkFanToo Correct I think we are all saying the same thing; up to now it’s been the nba. From here on out it will be the NCAA approving agents.
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Of course. Until now there was no need for the NCAA to certify agents as getting one ended eligibility.
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Slipping … down … the … rat hole.
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If it’s already happening, might as well bring it into broad daylight and regulate it. Really the only way to get rid of the corruption. They can’t control the NBA, but they can control who has contact with their players and how they do it. Seems like this was the smart choice, rather than wait for the NBA to implement anything.
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Here is another take on the changes…
