Recruiting Thread
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No question Wisconsin has fallen on hard times; short of winning the Big 10 tournament it will miss the Big Dance.
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@BeddieKU23 The worst part has to be that it was fairly obvious even back in May/June. He was always interested in UK and then once it was apparent to UK that they weren’t getting Grimes and Cal was kind of luke warm on Romeo they immediately pounced on a kid they knew they could get. Meanwhile it apparently blindsided the UW staff, but not their fanbase. They should have been still evaluating and keeping some fires warm for what was a very real possibility.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 The worst part has to be that it was fairly obvious even back in May/June. He was always interested in UK and then once it was apparent to UK that they weren’t getting Grimes and Cal was kind of luke warm on Romeo they immediately pounced on a kid they knew they could get. Meanwhile it apparently blindsided the UW staff, but not their fanbase. They should have been still evaluating and keeping some fires warm for what was a very real possibility.
Not sure their coach is going to survive much longer. I think Wisconsin has had some injury issues as well which haven’t made things any easier
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Latest 2019 NBA Mock Draft.
Grimes # 8
Vick #56
Langford #5
Zhaire Smith (Tech) #16
Konate (WVU) #40
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@BeddieKU23 You’re right. Kobe King, a talented freshman starter and Dimitric Trice a sophomore point guard both out for the season. They have no one that is a real point guard because of the injuries. They lost four times to decent teams in very close games early in the year. Lost to the aholes from Xavier who had the nerve to taunt the Wisconsin crowd at the end of the game, lost to UCLA on a last second shot, lost in the final seconds to Baylor, lost on road at tough Temple and really tough Virginia. Then the injuries hit and things really fell apart.
The jury is out on Gard. He keeps swinging and missing on recruits. His juniors this year other than Happ are complete flops. This years freshmen are good, but no one really to build a program around.
The 4th longest streak of making the dance, a 17 year streak of 4th or better in the big10, and back to the mid 90’s streak of a winning record, plus longest streak to the sweet 16 are going to end this year. Been tough to watch. I feel worst for Ethan Happ, a wonderful talent.
But on the bright side, I’ve watched less basketball this year because I don’t feel the urge to watch UW games as much.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Latest 2019 NBA Mock Draft.
Grimes # 8
Vick #56
Langford #5
Zhaire Smith (Tech) #16
Konate (WVU) #40
Well if this holds up for Grimes he will have to go unless he has some kind of Miles Bridge moment.
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Yeah being that high already will be interesting to see what happens. I expect him to have a great year next season
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I’m thinking around 10-11 ppg and 3-ish apg. Too hard to project rebounds because he likely won’t have as many opportunities as our guards the last couple years since we should be returning to two post player line-ups. Though guys like Dedric and KJ are pretty flexible as 4s.
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Jahvon Quinerly to announce Wednesday. Sounds like Villanova… Big pick up for them, Quinerly is a stud.
Wonder what’s going to happen with him and the FBI case. I know Jay wouldn’t take him unless there wasn’t going to be an issue
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@wissox Well, at least you have had KU’s exciting and consistently excellent season to keep your basketball juices flowing–uh, oops, never mind…
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That’s a tough break, I heard King & Trice were supposed to be pretty good this year.
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Self will be visiting Romeo today.
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BShark said:
Self will be visiting Romeo today.
booom shaka laka
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Quinerly to Nova as expected…
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O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo? Deny thy Commadores and refuse thy game. Or if thou wilt not, be but signed to a letter And no longer be a Hoosier threat. ‘Tis but thy loaded 2018 roster that is thy enemy: Thou art thyself, though not a Hawk. What’s Hawk? It is nor handles nor jumper Nor dunk nor steal nor any other move Belonging to a OAD. O be some other game. What’s in a game? That which we call a dunk By any other name would sound as sweet; So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call’d, Retain that dear perfection which he owes Without that title. Romeo, doff thy game, And for that game, which is no part of thee, Take Allen Fieldhouse.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Quinerly to Nova as expected…
Probably would have been the pick in the first place if his recruitment had been totally clean.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Quinerly to Nova as expected…
Probably would have been the pick in the first place if his recruitment had been totally clean.
Can’t disagree there
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Wonder if the SF signee for Vandy will have an impact on Langford’s decision. Nesmith is set to rise in the rankings and plays the same position as Romeo
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@BeddieKU23 Doubtful.
But I think we have this one in the bag imo. If there is PT, Langford is a Hawk. Just say the magic words Bill. “I guarantee you a starting position.” And then uncross your fingers and mumble under your breath so you feel better “if you earn it.”
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Doubtful.
But I think we have this one in the bag imo. If there is PT, Langford is a Hawk. Just say the magic words Bill. “I guarantee you a starting position.” And then uncross your fingers and mumble under your breath so you feel better “if you earn it.”
Yeah I was just pointing out that another one of their signee’s is having a great year and looks poised to jump into the 40-60 range in the final rankings. They also have a transfer from Notre Dame sitting out that plays the SF position as well. Vandy is just like KU- has to make or have guys leave to make room for his signature (neither which is a big concern).
To me I think Romeo will be a Hawk. We need him and I think he would impact our championship aspirations for next season
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I’d love to get Romeo, but won’t we have at least Vick, Garrett, Moore, Cunliffe, Grimes, Dotson, and Lawson filling the 1-3 spots? And we will have Doke, Lightfoot, Lawson, and McCormick for the 4-5 spots. Where’s the room for Romeo? Who’s our starting five, and who’s off the bench?
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@hawkmoon2020 I do not expect Vick, Cunliffe or Newman to return. I also believe that Bill will turn KJ into a stretch 4 instead of a Wing.
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@Kcmatt7 just took the words out of my mouth
Add Ogbaji as well who just committed last week
Doke is a wildcard right now as well. Not on NBA radar’s but might have a desire to seek a professional job anyway.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Doubtful.
But I think we have this one in the bag imo. If there is PT, Langford is a Hawk. Just say the magic words Bill. “I guarantee you a starting position.” And then uncross your fingers and mumble under your breath so you feel better “if you earn it.”
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@hawkmoon2020 Also Silvio at the 5. If Romeo lives up to the hype he should have no problem beating out most or all of the players at the 3. I am in hopes that KJ will be a major surprise that no one is talking much about.
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@Big-Clyde52 I kind of think that the 4th post spot will be between Silvio and KJ.
KJ rebounds the ball like a grown ass man. And he is a huge mismatch offensively as a stretch 4. Makes me think post rotation will be Doke, Dedric, Lightfoot and KJ.
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Reminds me of UNC’s frontcourt last year. Talent, depth, size, scary
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@Kcmatt7 Agreed. Not sure of his minutes at Memphis, but he had some good stats. With a year at KU under their belt, I would think the Lawson’s would have a leg up on everyone else. If Doke returns, finding minutes for everyone will be a problem. Should be a good problem but you never know.
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Does anyone have the usage and efficiency numbers on Dedric at Memphis?
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@dylans Dedric had a 27 PER. Would be 2nd on the team this year. He had a 28.6% usage rate. Would be first on the team this year. So, on a crazy amount of touches he was crazy efficient.
Next season’s post play may be the most efficient 1-2 punch to ever play next to each other under Bill Self. Between Doke and Dedric, we should get close to 35ppg and we should get it at a 50% fg percentage.
Dedric also had a Defensive rating of 95.5, which would be the best on this year’s team.
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Just purely looking at stats, Dedric would be the best player on our team by a mile. Of course the competition he played was not near the level he will face next season. But even in his games against good or P5 teams, he put up numbers. 35 on Iowa. 26 on Oklahoma. 21 on Cincinnati. 19 on South Carolina. 19 on Providence.
Basically, if Dedric is motivated he dominates.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Just purely looking at stats, Dedric would be the best player on our team by a mile. Of course the competition he played was not near the level he will face next season. But even in his games against good or P5 teams, he put up numbers. 35 on Iowa. 26 on Oklahoma. 21 on Cincinnati. 19 on South Carolina. 19 on Providence.
Basically, if Dedric is motivated he dominates.
But also he wasnt surrounded by a ton of talent so defenses could key on him.
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Dedric is going to be a complete badass from everything I’ve heard.
Also yes, KJ is going to play the 4 spot.
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Coach Self seeing Romeo today - - Romeo visiting Vanderbilt Saturday for the Florida game. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I assume Romeo’s visit is an official?
Self doing the smart thing getting into his ear before that visit…
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It is listed as an unofficial currently.
KU did this with Dotson and Grimes too (checking in before they took visits to other schools).
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Looks like they are bringing in Garland, Nesmith and two NBA players to recruit him as well. Smart move for Vandy. Wish they weren’t making a big deal of it but what can ya do. Was thinking this was a long journey for the Langford’s to make but google maps says only 3 hrs from Indiana to Vandy…
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Langford is #4 on the All-Time Indiana Scoring Record right now. Friday is his senior night playing against a team who’s assistant coach is the all-time leading scorer in Indiana history. If Langford plays the max number of games left he would have to average 39 pts a game to break the record. He’s currently at 2,780. Recent games of 63, 53, 44 he’s fast approaching close to the top
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Didn’t realize the hysteria Indiana fans are going to land Langford… This recruitment certainly isn’t easy
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Speaking of NBA players I’d love to see Pierce brought on in some role if he’d be down for it.
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@BeddieKU23 This recruitment is going to drag out for two more months at least. Vandy rolling out the red carpet in February doesn’t worry me.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Didn’t realize the hysteria Indiana fans are going to land Langford… This recruitment certainly isn’t easy
This is a fun recruitment. Crazy that it never would have even taken place w/o the FBI scandal. Kid loves Louisville still, he just can’t go there.
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@BShark “Recruiting Liason” sounds nice. He can pick up star recruits in a Limo from the airport and then stop in KC for a nice dinner before they head to Lawrence. Face to face time with a HOFer would be amazing.
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Are we still allowed to have DBOs? I feel like Pierce could be a fine, fine director of basketball ops.
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His ESPN gig is going to be hard to top…
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I’m not worried either. There could be a chance he decides at Burger Game which wouldn’t be great timing for KU I would think unless our season is over before then and guys have made their intentions known.
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I would love to see Collison join the program and coach the bigs. His last contract was basically to do just that for the Thunder and looks like he will retire at the end of the season.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
I would love to see Collison join the program and coach the bigs. His last contract was basically to do just that for the Thunder and looks like he will retire at the end of the season.
Ya that would be pretty sweet. - -I’d like that - what I’d really like would be to see Danny come back and Coach our big’s but since he has gotten into head coaching that will never happen so Collison would be good for sure. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I’d like to see scot pollard
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@JayHawkFanToo Nick had the best fundamentals on the block I can think of it would be great to have the son of coach back.
