Lets go 3-0 on the new season
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@kjayhawks On the surface it’s not terrible. But it’s the third loss this season in AFH… A place we had a 90% wining record and allegedly the highest home court advantage of any sport. And it was a historic day for the field house… And it was March.
So, yeah. I think it was terrible.
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DeJuan lost the Houston game by missing 2 free throws with 17 seconds left and a SIX point lead.
Today he had nearly as many turnovers as points.
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@bskeet hey the last time we lost 3 at home we made the final four. I really didn’t think we played too bad outside of Zeke. They also shot well above their average from distance which is partially on our defense but it was a perfect storm to lose. What a game by KJ tho
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@bskeet said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
DeJuan lost the Houston game by missing 2 free throws with 17 seconds left and a SIX point lead.
Today he had nearly as many turnovers as points.
Some unforgivable effort on the turnovers. Barely running back to defend. Horrendous
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Juan had 6 pts 1 to, 7 assists, 5 boards, 1 steal,
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Ok, not quite as bad as I thought… but not great given he’s the veteran…
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@kjayhawks I like the way you’re thinking here. I hope lightning strikes twice.
And why is it that teams and players seem to have record games against us on the regular?
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Three’s shot……Self for the love of what is good - please retire. Gonna complete wreck DP and waste his year in college while we run diggy at pg
Them - 43
Us - 18
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@rcjhdraft said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@bskeet said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
I guess this is the poorest executing team I’ve seen Self put on the floor.
Hilarious given the fact that they’re the oldest team in college basketball
Insanity - running the same 3 back out there and expecting different results!!!
Insanity - never recruiting over the pg or 4 man!
Insanity - telling us our eyes are deceptive, we don’t know ball and they are actually good!
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@bskeet said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@kjayhawks I like the way you’re thinking here. I hope lightning strikes twice.
And why is it that teams and players seem to have record games against us on the regular?
Teams have always given us their best shot, what happens when you are a blue blood. Kids grow up around the country saying 3…2…1 shot and they beat Kansas.
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@kjayhawks We trailed pretty much the entire game - had this been a neutral court or road game we’d lost by 15-18
Not sure how on earth u are positive
Houston will pound us
We will get beat by zona
Lose 1st or 2nd big 12 game
Lose 1st or 2nd round in ncaa’s
What a season by our senior basketball team
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I’m gonna have nightmares of Zekes turnovers and that shit with 9 seconds to go with two guys in his face smh. Gosh that was one the stupidest plays I’ve seen in a good while.
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@kuballin10 we will beat Arizona
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We shot 52% the first half and were down double digits ….because ya know one team understands basketball and the other is living in the 80’s
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@kjayhawks Zona is better than tech……
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My opinion is that this team’s guard play isn’t as good as past Kansas/Self teams. If you put Mario Chalmers/Russell Robinson, Tyshawn Taylor/Elijah Johnson, Frank Mason/Devonte Graham, Devon Dotson/Marcus Garrett on this team, then we immediately become a top 10, maybe top 5 team.
Darryn Peterson is a good start for next season, but we will need probably a couple more good guards if we want to be a top 10 team.
Awesome game from KJ today btw. Too bad it was wasted.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Self will ruin it
New heights these last two years is brutal
He can’t evaluate guards
Gonna surround Peterson with some overrated dudes, run this archaic offense where we feed the post and never fastbreak
It’s the same trash every year and it only worked with 3-4 year system guys
Bill - you are done - please quit
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KJ did have a great game. His hustle was awesome.
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@kuballin10 said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@KirkIsMyHinrich Self will ruin it
New heights these last two years is brutal
He can’t evaluate guards
Gonna surround Peterson with some overrated dudes, run this archaic offense where we feed the post and never fastbreak
It’s the same trash every year and it only worked with 3-4 year system guys
Bill - you are done - please quit
I would say let Self keep coaching, but a shake up to the assistant coaching staff and a maybe a GM is needed to help evaluate talent and get the right player fit and roster construction. Especially if we’re going to be so heavily reliant on the transfer portal to fill out the roster.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
My opinion is that this team’s guard play isn’t as good as past Kansas/Self teams. If you put Mario Chalmers/Russell Robinson, Tyshawn Taylor/Elijah Johnson, Frank Mason/Devonte Graham, Devon Dotson/Marcus Garrett on this team, then we immediately become a top 10, maybe top 5 team.
Darryn Peterson is a good start for next season, but we will need probably a couple more good guards if we want to be a top 10 team.
Awesome game from KJ today btw. Too bad it was wasted.
Spot on my friend, if this team had Ochai and Braun or Graham and Svi, it’s a national championship caliber club.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich He won’t listen to those guys anyways
The issue is Self
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@wissox said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@Texas-Hawk-10 PD on Saturday? What kind of school district you work for?
Not a mandatory one, something I needed to work towards my GT certification so I can at least show my admin I’m being proactive even though I have no desire to teach GT long term. I prefer working with my SpEd kids much more, but since I’m the only teacher in my content this year, I have to teach all subpops this year.
Basically sacrificing 6 hours to keep admin off my back.
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Want to give a shout out to KJ. He battled his tail off out there and I hate that we lost.
But quite simply…the guard play just isn’t good enough. I feel like you could reasonably say this is the worst guard group talent wise we’ve had in almost 20 years.
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@kjayhawks yes, he does not seem to play well at the end of games. His inbounding during the Houston double OT game is exhibit 1
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Worst game for Zeke today as a Jayhawk
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@bskeet how many turnovers did Mayo have --& how many points did Mayo have ?
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@bskeet just checked the box score , I think you might want to re think about Juan. – Zeke was much , worse - -horrible, This was not Juan- -it was Zeke.
Stat lines : – Juan- -3/7 fg- - Zeke - -1/7 fg- - - Juan - -5 rebounds------Zeke - 3 rebounds - -Juan-- -7 assists - – Zeke-- -1 assist- - – -Juan-- -1 steal – -Zeke – -1 steal-- - -Juan — one turnover- – Zeke - - -5 turnovers - - -& Juan- - -6 points-- – -Zeke – 5 points
Think we need to look more at Zeke with the costly game – then Juan.-- -If anything Diggy should of come in for Zeke
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@SlimShaddy54 I don’t think Juan terrible today I’d rate him at C on the grade scale. He over helped several times on defense leading to open treys. I didn’t think he was aggressive enough offensively. Several times he could’ve shot good open 3s but passed them up repeatedly on a day we really needed some outside scoring. Zeke and AJ IMO were the two guys that cost us big time today. Zeke played 31 minutes 5 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist and a killer of 5 turnovers. A guy with his experience and skill set can’t have that kind of output against a good team and us still win.
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Sorry not sorry I missed this one
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This one was painful but not Houston painful.
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Zeke Mayo has been getting death threats and racist messages since the game mentioned. Can’t read the article but saw the headline in the KCStar.
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@wissox That is horrible. Yes, he did not play well today, but I am sure he knows it and is beating himself up enough as it is. It is just a game!! There is no place where this is OK! It seems like we are going backwards with respect to being civilized. I feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone.
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@wissox @patoh3 He posted them on X and looking at their profiles, I don’t think they are actually KU fans
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Uncivilized bullies!
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I honestly am surprised this late in the season self doesn’t have them on lockdown from social media to focus on the task at hand.
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https://x.com/frankmason0/status/1895985801567363584?s=46
Frank
Me
Accountability between teammates is huge
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Not so fun with the box score!
I may just leave it at one stat today. Horribly, inexcusably, game-alteringly glaring.
3PT%
Texas Tech (just the first half!!!) 10-24 – 41.7%
Texas Tech (total) – 15-43 – 34.9%
KU (total) 4-18 – 22.2%
Bill Self may be the most stubborn man on the planet. Switching and doubling down low is and has been killing us for years. Guys are just WIDE open on the perimeter. Are Athletic Directors allowed to have a come to jesus chat with coaches???
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@rockchalkjayhawk Yep been saying it for two years, it’s like he forgot 2018 ever happened
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OH, and JT Toppin…wow. I actually thought Flory would be the perfect defender against him. He was awesome. Jeez.
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@kjayhawks said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
https://x.com/frankmason0/status/1895985801567363584?s=46
Frank
Me
Accountability between teammates is hugeThey don’t make too many Frank Mason types anymore…
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This is easily the most anemic team I’ve experienced at KU. Even before Self. But I will give a huge shoutout for KJ today. This loss wasn’t on him.
It didn’t look like we felt like playing today. Anyone else sense that? I watched a lot of college ball today and all those teams were more excited than our guys. I don’t think we were going to beat anyone today.
We still haven’t learned that Hunter belongs in the low post.
So much for our new season…
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@drgnslayr I honestly thought we played pretty decent for much of the game outside of Zeke. He just looked like he was on a different planet today. Several other guys had hustle plays, KJ had about 10 himself. Our defensive game plan was pure garbage IMO
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@wissox on this game from today ?-- Granted terrible game but come on , I don’t care if it was for todays game or ANY GAME that’s BD. It’s just one of those Seasons , werer just down, but to threaten someone over a game of Basketball is someone just showing their total ass
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@wissox I think as someone mentioned above during the game, we are kinda in purgatory for KU basketball. We don’t have the most athletic team and best player on the court most of the time and haven’t for 2 or 3 years. From 1984-2022 95% of the games we played we had the better player and better team. We didn’t always win but if you put Techs team together with ours. I think only KJ if he plays the way he did today and Hunt are the only guys that see the floor. Their guards absolutely put a clinic on ours by a wide margin. Which doesn’t look good going forward. IMO you can’t win a title without great guards, having a dominant post player helps but the guards control the game and have the ball more.
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@kjayhawks said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
We don’t have the most athletic team
This is quite an indictment on Self and the staff after last year’s pledge to go and get some athletes and depth…
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We played a quality opponent today. So, not a total shame to lose. But at home, i expect us to win them all.
I’d guess we all agree that two things stood out today: Defending the 3 pt line, and Zeke’s poor play.
It wasn’t a piss poor effort, but the above items made it look worse.
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@SlimShaddy54 said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@bskeet how many turnovers did Mayo have --& how many points did Mayo have ?
He didn’t play well today. And given that he didn’t seem his best most of the game, probably not a great idea to ride him for as many minutes as we did and to have him in at crunch time. That’s on the coaches.
Zeke cares, though. He’s a Lawrence kid who grew up wanting to be a Jayhawk… Lord knows he cares. I think his issue is he cares so much he’s putting too much pressure on himself. Many of his mistakes are fumbles or getting out over the skis and losing control. That’s cognitive load issues.
He certainly does not deserve the barrage of hateful and racist comments, although I’m sure that’s not coming from true KU fans.
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Missed the game. The crowd got a T for throwing a water bottle on the court? What gives? Normally the crowd is more educated than that - tempting as it may be.
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@dylans said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Missed the game. The crowd got a T for throwing a water bottle on the court? What gives? Normally the crowd is more educated than that - tempting as it may be.
They got a warning for throwing a water bottle on the court after a bad foul call on Rylan.
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Self sent out a note that was posted on Instagram last night. I think this was unprecedented.
All of it following a disappointing loss after a disappointing season where people are losing their sh*t because they don’t know how to lose. It’s all felt unprecedented.
I don’t like to lose. But it is part of the game. You win some; you lose some.
