Looking back at Hilton
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Tomorrow, we get a real test in Ames.
I encourage those who oft wear black hats to remember, this is a battle and not the war. What great progress have we seen? Surely a regression against a good team in some areas on the road would be expected.
Still, with the emergence of Shak as a strong contributor, if he is healthy, and we can hit 30% of our 3s and 70% at the line, we can certainly win this one.
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I’d say we’ve had plenty of real tests already! A cake walk would be nice
If you have any superpowers @approxinfinity , now’s the time to use em!
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I sure hope Hunter, Flory and KJ score and score often in the paint. RC
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I’m sorry I really am , but just trying to be honest & realistic. I don’t have a very good feel about tomorrow night & that’s not a knock against the guys , I think we will play hard and fight but bottom line I just think they are better then us THIS YEAR. -They are like us many years , they are just really good. You never know which one or whatever is going to be the one who lights it up for them on any particular night.
Like I mentioned yesterday, we are going to have to match their defensive intensity for a full 40 minutes and find quick open perimeter looks/shots. Jefferson pretty good , got a good pg- - they have the guy that comes off the bench that actually is their leading Scorer -a lot of weapons. We got to take care of the ball & hit the glass.- -We have to make a better percentage of hitting our shots from distance. -I hope I’m wrong about this feeling , I hope I’m dead wrong just RIGHT NOW as of this moment , at this time of day I just feel like could be a 6-7 point L - Hell I’ll do anything if I am- – I’ll dance naked in the rain if we win even lol - -ROCK CHALK
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@stoptheflop Especially Hunter he needs 20 in this game. Flory needs 8. KJ needs 10. Zeke needs 20 also. We have to make them guard all our guards. They will clog the lane as everyone else has. Coit will shoot from three he always does. Moore needs to make a couple and drive for floaters, Zeke needs to make a couple and get to the rack. Storr needs to make one and go at it hard and keep drawing fouls. Shak needs to make one and drive it with his speed. Juan has to make one and drive and dish and drive for his floater or reverse scoop layup. We need one or two more treys one for Hunter because he will be played rough and he will play rough but will get calls against him. He will get pissed and a pissed Hunter will make one or two threes just to show the Cyclones and the refs the finger. That will be nine treys which will get us in the upper 70’s and a 5 point win. Do not and I mean don’t get below 35 in the first half. We need to be tied all game. We actually get more offensive rebounds than they do. Zeke is surprisingly adept at putting back his misses. it would be nice if Flory has a breakout game and help Hunter control the defensive boards. I can see KJ and Hunter and Flory sitting out with two fouls and three fouls but hopefully not at the same time. Hunter our potential AA needs to hit all of his little jumpers. Can our suddenly vaunted defense actually hold ISU to 70 points while our offense gets after it until they are scorching the nets. If they are just better than us like faster, tougher, more energized and better shooters okay but if we are equal, as tough and as energized we can over come the noise and maybe some bad calls. When we beat up UCF on the road we saw what this team can do and if AJ, Moore and Shak can stun the Cyclones with their breakout games. I know it’s coming and we can ride it all the way to a one seed.
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It’s always the same equation for us in Ames…. Can we take care of the ball? Hilton is a tough venue and if we start this game with turnovers and fall behind the temperature in Hilton rises from screaming fans and becomes easy for them to roll us! If we keep it to around 10 total turnovers in the game, we stand a chance. We need to keep Hunter in the low post and space properly.
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Yeah i am not bullish on Hunter from 3 more than once in a blue moon, as a trailer, and with Bidunga already on the low block.
I want 20+ minutes for Flory. Keeping out of early foul trouble will be key.
As i said during last game, thought we looked good with Hunt out second half and KJ and Bidunga pairing. Its when we got to double digits.
Dajuan, Shak, hot scorer, KJ and Bidunga is a really good defensive core.
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At least we didn’t give up any offensive magic last game. Due for a little regression back to average on that end. Hopefully, these guys have really bought in to the idea that defense travels.
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I’m really hopeful this bunch rises to the occasion. They know it’s a big game. If ISU guards them straight up and doesn’t change their style to sag off Juan and KJ I think they can win this game.
Gotta score points, make enough 3’s to keep the gameplan honest. Push the pace and never stop attacking the basket. Only way to overcome the crowd and what will be a biased ref crew will be forcing them to actually call fouls. On defense we just need to limit foul trouble in the post and keep Gilbert away from the FT line. I’m hoping Shak gets that assignment to take the head off the snake. Rebound and stay in it.
Should be a good game, i hope. These kind of games are what Self lives for
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If KU somehow wins going away I’ll be bouncing off the walls. If it’s played closely (5 points either way-ish) I’ll feel about the same as I do now that this is a good team. If Iowa State wins in a blowout that would be fairly concerning.
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I’m honestly less worried about these type of games. We seem to bring our A game when the situation calls for it. It the games when we are playing less competition like WV or Fizzou we have zero energy.
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@kjayhawks said in Looking forward to Hilton:
I’m honestly less worried about these type of games. We seem to bring our A game when the situation calls for it. It the games when we are playing less competition like WV or Fizzou we have zero energy.
Yea, weird. The energy part makes no sense to me. It’s very evident at times though. How can guys not be fired up to play? KU needs a Flavor Flav hype man. Yeah Boyeeee!
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Last year I think we’d all agree was one of our weaker teams and we went up to Ames and were down 2 with a minute to go. Lost by 4. We’ve had some bad in Hilton I agree but last year wasn’t so bad. We’ve been a little shell shocked by some epic routs in the latter part of the Self era therefore there’s some pessimism for tomorrows game. We’ve won 8 out of 10 against them. But lost 2 of the last 3. I feel decent about this one.
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@wissox we need Zeke to Channel his inner Elijah Johnson 2013 up there lol
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Ugh, 6.5 dogs to ISt. Ames is my favorite place to win. AFH East. Please, please, please defend their guards and look to score in the paint. KU does have an advantage with our bigs. Come on Hunter, show some energy; dunk the damn ball!
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@BShark said in Looking forward to Hilton:
If KU somehow wins going away I’ll be bouncing off the walls. If it’s played closely (5 points either way-ish) I’ll feel about the same as I do now that this is a good team. If Iowa State wins in a blowout that would be fairly concerning.
This is exactly where I’m at. Expecting us to lose a close game 4-8 points but it’s tight until a few free throws late. Will be fun to watch with this expectation.
If this team is actually closer to 2020 and 2022 as people are saying per the “metrics” than they should go win this one.
Isu has better guard and their bigs are more mobile. They run pnr a lot so we will see if Hunter can adjust at all or if Flory needs to get more minutes.
Hope Shak and Rylan both play 25+ minutes tonight
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Maybe Moore! He seems to want to cheerlead these guys!
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Momcilovic is likely OUT tonight and for another 5+ weeks with an injury.
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@BShark Oh no one wins without Mom. I’m upping my prediction now. 69-60.
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@BShark said in Looking forward to Hilton:
Momcilovic is likely OUT tonight and for another 5+ weeks with an injury.
Oh that’s a big one. He’s not a great matchup for us at all.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Looking forward to Hilton:
@BShark said in Looking forward to Hilton:
Momcilovic is likely OUT tonight and for another 5+ weeks with an injury.
Oh that’s a big one. He’s not a great matchup for us at all.
Big time floor spacer. Indications are he broke some finger(s) in his non-shooting hand.
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Not sure Vegas will react to that but that’s worth several points.
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Mom was the one guy on that roster las year i wish we had
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Does he start?
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https://x.com/chrismwilliams/status/1879601947814076494?s=46
It’s official now (ISU reporter tweet here)
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This basically puts ISU at 7 deep and their two bench players are 4 ppg types.
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Still, we have to play a near perfect game to win this one. All their guards will be automatic from 3 if we leave them evem a little open.
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Ox knows how to play this. They will be even a tougher out without Momci.
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@Jhawk69 said in Looking forward to Hilton:
Still, we have to play a near perfect game to win this one. All their guards will be automatic from 3 if we leave them evem a little open.
That’s just not true though? They shoot it 1% better than KU and just lost, by far, their best shooter. They also rate 253rd in threes attempted per game, KU is 271st for reference. This game will be won or lost inside and we need to not commit fouls (their guards are quite good at drawing them).
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@BShark That is all true, but I think they will rain threes against us.
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@Jhawk69 It would be a big contrast to how they normally play. I’m mostly hoping that foul trouble doesn’t lead to more Diggy minutes than normal. Feel like both teams will come out juiced.
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@BShark guards drawing fouls doesn’t bode well for Flory high minutes, hopefully KJ brings it today if that is the case
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We are going to have to have Rylan or AJ show up tonight for sure we need that additional Scorer tonight right now other then Zeke we don’t have that outside consistent threat, s U really like what Shaq has added brought this team to a different look, at least he does have the tools to score some instead of just another passer.
The thing I’m afraid of is Jefferson is going to neutralize at least enough Hunter that’s going to be an issue. If we can have a night where we can get either or Rylan or AJ to be productive enough that would be sweet.- -We are going to have to play a full forty minutes, can not afford any 2-3-4 minute – droughts - -be on the Hunter watch for foul trouble their Bigs pretty athletic - got to crash the boards and keep them off no 2nd- - 3rd chances , just can’t have it
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Hunter with 20 and the two shots he takes from the arc which he can make one or both will be a boost. Can Juan, Zeke and Shak contain their guards? Maybe and depends who they each guard. Just slowing them down will be enough.
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@Zabudda Hunter will attempt about 20 shots. He will make 7-8 of them. He will also be in position for about 20 rebounds, he will come down with about 12 of them and be outhustled by smaller ISU forwards for the other 8. He will finish with something like 18 points and 12 rebounds but will be largely ineffective. To make up for that, Mayo and Harris will have to shine and Rylan will need to knock down some threes.
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Isn’t their 6th man their high pt guy?
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They may zone us up, keep them out of foul trouble.
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Now that it has enough possessions together to qualify, K. Adams / H. Dickinson / D. Harris / Z. Mayo / S. Moore is our BEST 5 man group so far. Swapping in Rylan for Shak is just behind that one.
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Hunter shooting threes is just another look to get the lane congestion smaller. He’s shooting at 25% and we have seen him make a couple and he started the season shooting 50% from the free throw line and now he is at 75% plus he’s a good passer and can drive as evidenced in the last game. If Flory is playing with him he rebounding success improves. We’ve got a bunch of midgets who have figured out it’s a good idea to drive into the lane and those misses are easier to anticipate than threes which bounce way off. Zeke is a good at rebounding and if our shots get blocked it’s as likely to come back to us as not.
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Do you like the earlier start at 6:00?
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I like Hawks being prime time but now with the collapse of the PAC maybe we can be the West Coasts team in the 9 slot
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7 for me and yes since I go into work for around 5 am
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Jayhawks by 5
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Let’s do it
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Always get the ball
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Those are the kind of dumb misses that hurt us later
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Turnoverfest
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I think ISt’s coach wants to win this. Jeez he’s a maniac on the sideline
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Missed bunny and 3 sloppy TOs…
