KU vs Duke Game Thread
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Not a chance I’d put KJ on Flagg sorry he fouls out in 25 minutes if he does. I’d put Griffen on him and see how that goes to start.
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@kjayhawks List your matchups for who guards who - curious what ur thinking
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@kuballin10 their size is definitely scary and we have to crash the boards hard or they will make a living on the offense glass.
Juan - Proctor
Zeke - Foster
Storr - Kneuppel (likely spelled wrong)
Griffen - Flagg
Hunt - Maluach
Maluach hasn’t impressed me much this far from parts of the two games I have watched. Don’t believe he is in game shape at this point and likely won’t play more than 15-20 minutes. I don’t think I’d start KJ in this one, doesn’t seem to be a favorable match up for him. He has struggled in the past with stretch 4 type of players. I know Bill will regardless. Whom ever wins on the glass wins this game. Arizona gave up gobs of offensive rebounds and second chance points. I like us to win with how experienced we are Dook has a tendency to chuck it from the cheap seats. Which I think we did that a little much against UNCW.
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@kjayhawks Alright so if KJ is in the starting lineup who does he guard?
Also, doubt anyone noticed and all credit would go to Juan but the UNCW pg got shut down………but it was KJ who was guarding him. When I watched the replay I was loving that defensive X’s and O’s by Self
I’m wondering if KJ he throws on Proctor or whoever is their lead ball handler to try to disrupt things
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@kuballin10 he’ll likely be on Flagg or Kneuppel their Roster is weird from the stand point they only have 2 true big men. They have a lot of size but mostly taller guards.
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Cooper Flagg will be the #1 pick next summer. KU isn’t stopping him. You put Adams on him as much as possible to force him into some turnovers because he’s averaging almost 3 per game and KJ can do that. Stopping Knueppel and Proctor from 3 should be the top priority on defense. Getting Hunter going on offense is KU’s biggest key to win.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I think you make Flagg earn everything he gets and don’t let someone else beat you by dropping 20 plus points.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Ding ding ding
You and @kjayhawks nailed it
Do what Uconn did to purdont in the title game. Let Edey/flagg go for 40 and go home with a L
Bill is pretty stubborn and thinks Edy Sutton’s defending inside out is still relevant in 2024
I think we get roasted from not defending the 3 point like - like we normally struggle with and that’s our demise
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@kuballin10 I’m saying the opposite. I am saying don’t focus on shutting down Flagg’s scoring and with him, you do want to defend him inside out. He’s only shooting 26% from 3, those are the shots you want Flagg taking. Flagg’s also averaging 3 TO’s per game which is why you stick KJ on him to force so TO’s out of Flagg. Knueppel and Proctor are the two threats from 3 that need to be shut down since they’re each north of 40% on a high volume number of shots. That’s why I said shutting those two down is the biggest key for KU to win. If they slow down those two down, it’s not going to matter too much what Flagg does.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Correct let him go for 40 and stop everyone else….especially the 3 ball
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Flagg isn’t very efficient yet has a sky high usage rate. Let him take bad shots from 3. He won’t be able to move KJ on a post up or drive, Flagg is thin and KJ is a tree trunk. Have to keep them off the boards too. Hunt needs to stay out of foul trouble and ideally get Maluach in some foul trouble. Neither guy is all that athletic so should be a fun matchup. At least to start I’d put Griffin on Kon and Mayo on Proctor. We might need to go bigger for stretches especially if Mayo’s shot still isn’t falling. Storr can play the 2 and is really quietly had a very good year. It’s the most efficient he’s ever been. Going to need his athleticism.
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I’m surprised that Duke is a 3.5 favorite tonight. Got to win this.
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@FarmerJayhawk ya think everyone is putting too much stock in him at this point. He has a lot of potential no question but he ain’t ready at 17 years old to go nuts and drop 40 on us. I’m probably getting more worried about their guards as the match draws near.
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This is a game that will be won by who controls the style… the tempo. That and rebounds. Total possessions.
We are playing a team full of freshmen… and a coach who is basically a freshman. This would be a great time for Self to pull something out of the bag of tricks. I’ll never forget what he did to Memphis in '08, putting Rush out at point to disrupt the flow. Pure brilliance!
Disrupt this group of freshmen and lets not only win, but embarrass them in the process!
There is only ONE major factor in this game… Duke’s Achilles heel… FRESHMEN!
@Texas-Hawk-10 Enjoy yourself! 10 years ago I would be jealous. Now, I’m old and will settle for bbq and a big screen TV! lol
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Flagg won’t like KJ because Flagg likes to push off and act tough in the lane and KJ can force off balance shots and if KJ gets his hackles up and I think he just might from Flagg’s antics things could get contentious which will be fun to watch. Duke is elite on defense and unless Griffen and Storr finally get with it we may get stuck in the sixties. How Mayo will show up and if he is big then we can settle into the game and our experienced guys can be effective near the end of the game. Flagg is anointed by Bilas and the rest and touches the ball a lot so Juan may be able to intercept passes to Flagg when he is being fed. Duke bullied Arizona successfully.
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I will be shocked if we dont win tonight. Only way is if we are ice cold, they are not, and the refs screw us with the whistle.
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These games are why we follow KU and our reactions state we are serious about it.
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@Zabudda
pretty sweet we get a chance to kick unc and dukes ass in the same season. Put a little smudge on “the greatest rivalry in all of sports” BS about those 2
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I just don’t get a good feel about this game tonight. Maybe if it was later in the year, I just think watching play so far this year Duke has played better- - so talented- - -Hope I’m wrong but could see high single to low double digit loss
Sorry to feel this way and again hope I’m wrong -their deeeep and very talented , I think they will take advantage of Hunters liabilities on our defensive end again hope I’m wrong , the one thing we have in our favor is they are young, but these aren’t your typical Freshmen
I just think AJ & Rylan still haven’t really settled in yet , just doesn’t look like they still aren’t really comfortable , makes a big difference in a game like this
The key in this would to be let Flagg get his but make the others work to get theirs don’t let others have career days - -for sure hope I’m wrong
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I have to laugh at ESPNs analytics predictor giving Dook at 70.4% chance of winning. Even their number are bias towards them. I think we have better than a 29.6% chance of winning every time we hit the court lol
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You can at least bank on the ref part. Hopefully it won’t be a deciding factor though.
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Control the boards and make shots. I know we have left a bunch of points off the board by missing good open looks so far but I guess that’s to be expected with so many new pieces.
This is a game we need both Griffen and Storr to be impactful and consistent. Not sure we have seen that yet from both at the same time but those are the two guys we need their athletic and playmaking ability to come through playing Duke
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@BeddieKU23 I’m curious to see the minutes distribution.
First half Self will play 9 but second half he will really tighten it up if it is close….
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No Shak until maybe Christmas so that’s a bummer
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@FarmerJayhawk Great- -seems like every yr always something or someone that can effect the roster
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Wow his impact for the season just took a nosedive
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@FarmerJayhawk because?
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@FarmerJayhawk ya not practicing or playing til after Christmas he may as well redshirt
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@kjayhawks said in KU vs Duke PreGame:
@FarmerJayhawk ya not practicing or playing til after Christmas he may as well redshirt
Can’t do a traditional, would have to try for a medical.
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Looking like close to a 50/50 split in the crowd from what I can tell. Hard to definitively say since both schools are blue.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 right which is silly because I believe he has played 11 minutes
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Cooper Flagg is touted as a/the generational talent. A generation is about 30 years in the real world. It’s a tall task to live up to that in one season. who has been hyped like this? Zion? Greg Oden? Anthony Davis? Willie Mays Hayes?
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@Zabudda wiggins (not embiid)
Oh yeah Jabari Parker. Lol
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Coach just said Flory is fine , no limitations on him. Had wisdom teethe pulled but he is fine
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Now that more of the crowd is here, it’s probably about a 65/35 pro Kansas crowd.
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@Zabudda said in KU vs Duke PreGame:
Cooper Flagg is touted as a/the generational talent. A generation is about 30 years in the real world. It’s a tall task to live up to that in one season. who has been hyped like this? Zion? Greg Oden? Anthony Davis? Willie Mays Hayes?
LeBron, Flagg is the highest rated recruit since LeBron.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs Duke PreGame:
Now that more of the crowd is here, it’s probably about a 65/35 pro Kansas crowd.
well that helps some anyways possibly
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Great we have Fran smh
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Time to beat the excuses out of Scheyer
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Storr starting over Griffen tonight.
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Getting Fran this early is a classic troll job by ESPN
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They played both schools intro videos, KU’s is far superior to Duke’s.
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Is this the game thread??
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I’ve never admitted this to a single human being, but I HATE Duke. I hate every Duke player (ever), every Duke coach (ever) and every Duke fan(ever). I hate their pets. I hate Cooper Flagg the most of all.
Rock Chalk!
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Ok i renamed this thread
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Slather these bitches, Mayo!
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Great d so far
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Dude so wide open
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Big H from 3!
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Long night for Cooper looking like…
