Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster
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Some Furphy love
Despite not having a first-round pick, the Pacers landed the No. 5 player in my projections when they moved up one spot to stop Furphy’s slide into the second round. I get why scouts might not have believed Furphy was a lottery talent as my projections suggested, but to see him not go in the first round was legitimately shocking. If Furphy develops as a shooter with size, he’d fit well alongside Pascal Siakam in the Indiana frontcourt.
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@kjayhawks said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Good for Kevin to hear his name called I wasn’t a 100% sure he would. @drgnslayr yea the second round can become a G-League purgatory for a career real quick. @Texas-Hawk-10 they only drafted him to keep Bron for a few more years no chance he plays meaningful minutes on a contending team.
I’m fully aware of why the Lakers drafted him. In regards to playing meaningful minutes on a contender, are you referring to this upcoming season, or ever because I believe those are two different answers.
I do believe Bronny can be a solid NBA role player in a few years. If it wasn’t for this unique opportunity to play with his dad, he’d still be at USC and would probably be a 3 year player there before making the jump.
Does he have All-Star level talent? I doubt that, but I believe he has the tools and talent to eventually become an NBA starter or 6th man type role. He does genuinely have the talent, work ethic, and attitude to make it in the NBA. It will take time, and he’ll likely spend some time in the G-League this season. It will probably take 2-3 years for him to start coming into his own, but even without his dad, I don’t think him going at the back end of the second round was a huge reach.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t want to throw shade at Bronny. I genuinely hope he runs with this opportunity, he is blessed to be born into the right family. Also not to hate to LeBron I’d do anything for not only my kids but most kids in general. This fell into their lap, let’s see what happens. But I have seen nothing from watching him play sparingly at USC that he is even remotely close to being an NBA caliber player. Yes LeBron is an unbelievably gifted athlete and one of the best to do it but that doesn’t guarantee his son is the same. A couple of Jordan’s kids played CBB too and weren’t drafted have much better numbers than Bronny. He young and will get his shot so congratulations to him but I don’t expect him to turn into anything but a G-league or practice squad guy.
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@kjayhawks said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t want to throw shade at Bronny. I genuinely hope he runs with this opportunity, he is blessed to be born into the right family. Also not to hate to LeBron I’d do anything for not only my kids but most kids in general. This fell into their lap, let’s see what happens. But I have seen nothing from watching him play sparingly at USC that he is even remotely close to being an NBA caliber player. Yes LeBron is an unbelievably gifted athlete and one of the best to do it but that doesn’t guarantee his son is the same. A couple of Jordan’s kids played CBB too and weren’t drafted have much better numbers than Bronny. He young and will get his shot so congratulations to him but I don’t expect him to turn into anything but a G-league or practice squad guy.
Bronny was coming back from his cardiac arrest less than a year ago, so he was nowhere near 100% last season at USC. When you look at his high school videos against other top HS talent at stuff like the Nike Summit and McDonald’s AA game, Bronny is a more than capable player who deserved his top 25 ranking. As long as he keeps putting in the work, which I’ve never seen anyone claim he has a poor work ethic or sense of entitlement, he’ll be fine and be a serviceable NBA player in 3 years.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 we’ll find out in time either way but several players looked like gods on highschool highlight films. Shoot several Jayhawks even that never made it to the pros or even played meaningful minutes here.
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I feel empathy for Bronny. His statement fit perfectly… he wants to carve his own path. But who will let him? Unless he ends up being a monster talent like his dad, he’ll always fall in his dad’s shadow. I’m sure he got a free pass in the draft, but it’s not worth it to face the uphill battle ahead of him. I will be pulling for him!
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I know what some of you are thinking…
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Man. We had had some kids that are really confused
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Kyle Filipowski saga is kind of strange. Seems odd but I kind of feel for him. To be the subject of national scrutiny for not getting drafted, then the news of his girlfriend and worse, estrangement from his family at present is tough to read. It’s easier to dislike a kid when he’s just dislikable because he plays for Duke.
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Any discussion of a DUKE player in a Kansas roster thread should be grounds for suspension!
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Empathy is underrated, empathy towards Duke goons is next to godliness…?
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For those who don’t know the Filipowski story, it involves him likely being groomed since he was in high school by an older woman, potentially with intention of trying to separate him from his family and convert him to the Mormon church.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 wow i meant to read it but got distracted with life stuff. That is WILD
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Not worth a new thread, but I decided to end my Sox boycott last night and noticed the Rockies Jacob Stallings was born in Lawrence. Just looked at his bio and his did was longtime college hoops coach Kevin whom assisted Roy from 88-93 which means Jacob was born while his dad was coaching here. Not newsworthy, just interesting.
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He’s going to be a good one if he stays patient https://x.com/jonchep/status/1807139504316416440?s=46&t=c0LiaNrxev6XfT7LIH8dAQ
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
He’s going to be a good one if he stays patient https://x.com/jonchep/status/1807139504316416440?s=46&t=c0LiaNrxev6XfT7LIH8dAQ
Unless Self expands the rotation to 9, the battle between and Mayo should be pretty good.
Also saw his name on a 2026 draft board as a top 100 draft prospect.
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@FarmerJayhawk post was deleted. what was the gist?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Did I miss a link to the Filipowski story?
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@approxinfinity said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
drafted players in the NBA can refuse to play for the team that drafted them
Tell all teams he will refuse to play for them… until next year.
They retain his rights indefinitely though. The Bronny James I’ll go to Australia stuff was funny. No worries , no one wants to draft your guy Rich Paul.
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@mayjay said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Did I miss a link to the Filipowski story?
No, it’s a story from SBNation about why Filipowski might’ve slipped to the second round since he was also expecting to be a mid 1st round pick. The link is below.
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2024/6/28/24188094/kyle-filipowski-girlfriend-nba-draft-utah-jazz
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I usually let basketball rule where my heart is. When Filipowski went to Duke I had to get over a lot to have any kind of liking or respect for him. His play during his year at Duke really won me over. I’ve managed to forget the D on his jersey and respect the kid as a quality player. I think he has a future in the NBA.
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@drgnslayr not me man. When he said he felt the fan rushing the court was trying to injure him… the D on his shirt may not stand for D-bag but it at least stands for delusional.
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@approxinfinity Ya that was a bunch of BS and couldn’t stand him much before but zero after that. Most Duke guys make it so easy to hate them. Imagine Jamari pulling that BS when the Mildcat fan bumped him.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 The reason explained as to why he slipped doesn’t make sense to me.
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I believe it was due to family dynamics. Flips gf has been grooming him since high school, she’s 8 yrs older than him. She’s also a Mormon. He has no contact w/his family! I think that’s why he wasn’t taken until Utah had their pick in the 2nd round. No team wanted to mess w/that. If you google it it’s pretty detailed, and also really sad. Is that what the rest of u guys u derstand?
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As long as both parties love each other and are loyal, I do not think 8 year age difference should be an issue IMO.
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@AsadZ said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
As long as both parties love each other and are loyal, I do not think 8 year age difference should be an issue IMO.
The age difference itself isn’t why this is an issue. The reason it became a potential issue is that Kyle was 15 when they started dating and she was 23 and she was also his former babysitter. That’s why it’s an issue.
Imagine if the roles were reversed and it was 23 year old man dating a 15 year girl who was projected to be a top recruit and eventual WNBA pick, there would be a huge outcry of grooming. Kyle being estranged from his family means that there’s something going on that he and his family don’t see eye to eye on.
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@approxinfinity Baseball and football are different I guess. A fan runs on the field and we cheer him on and then cheer even louder when the security dudes blast him near into eternity. My opinion, you run onto a court where a game ended seconds later all bets are off. I still don’t get the criticism of him or that of CClark in similar circumstances.
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@wissox I think they should watch Jamari Traylor for an example of how to act in those situations. He handled it much better.
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@dylans I still don’t get that. Clark and Filipowski are both kind of idiots so people are going to criticize how they handled it but obviously not me. You run on a court a second after a game ends at full speed and the losing players are trying to get off, and in the Clark case even appear to target her, well if a player shoves the fan out of the way that’s the risk the court stormer takes.
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I didnt question his knocking the shit out of the courtstormer. I questioned him suggesting the courtstormer wanted to injure him.
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@wissox No arguments here. They are both floppers though. Lay the wood on the court stormer, don’t be such a pussy.
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Well there ya go, the roster REALLY appears set this time.
Current likely depth chart. Positions a bit murky.
PG Harris — Moore — Coit — Mayo
SG Storr — Mayo — Passmore — Coit
SF Griffen — Passmore — McDowell
PF KJ — Clemence
C Dickinson — Bidunga — Clemence
Main Bench: Mayo — Passmore — Moore — Bidunga — Coit
Redshirt: Elmarko — Shelby
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So who’s destined for more playing time: Moore or Coit?
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Interesting one. I think they like Moore and he’s going to be a steady option behind Harris. Since he’s been here longer to develop chemistry and become accustomed to Self Ball I would expect it’s Moore.
Coit will also have to adjust to playing at this level whereas Moore has plenty of experience in P4.
Glad to have both as bench options that’s for sure
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I like the sound of this:
Moore was a part of three-consecutive state championship teams in 2017, 2018 and 2019.
Harris helped lead the team to two straight Missouri 5A state championship game appearances, finishing runner up in 2018 and winning in 2019. “Being a 5-9 kid from the middle of nowhere New Jersey … I am truly blessed to have the opportunity to play one more year. It’s a very good team. We’re very good players, so everything is going to have to be earned,” Coit said.
While with Lawrence High, Mayo became the first Chesty Lion ever to receive the male DiRenna Award for the Kansas City area’s best high school basketball player. He was also a two-time Journal-World All-Area player of the year before embarking on his career at SDSU.
Coit said he picked a school with “transparency and integrity. That was the main thing I’m trying to live by, just morals and standards. I wanted to play for a coach (Bill Self) that lives off of that as well. So the school I committed to (KU), they were kind of upfront from the get-go about me being able to play my game but also being able to compete. … I’m not going there with them saying, ‘You are starting,’ or ‘You’ve got the ball.’”
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
So who’s destined for more playing time: Moore or Coit?
I wonder if it comes down to who’s hot plays, Zeke or Coit?
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
So who’s destined for more playing time: Moore or Coit?
Moore, by a lot imo
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
So who’s destined for more playing time: Moore or Coit?
I wonder if it comes down to who’s hot plays, Zeke or Coit?
It’s very possible neither ends up playing a lot minutes unless Self expands his rotation past 8. I think it’s possible that happens though because on paper, this appears like a team that will frustrate the hell out of Self because there’s a lot of below average to terrible defenders on this team this season.
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@BShark said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
So who’s destined for more playing time: Moore or Coit?
Moore, by a lot imo
Does Moore have any defense to his game? We’re gonna need somebody to play D.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@BShark said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
So who’s destined for more playing time: Moore or Coit?
Moore, by a lot imo
Does Moore have any defense to his game? We’re gonna need somebody to play D.
Moore is an elite level defender. I would expect to see him and Harris on the floor together a lot closing out games because of their defense.
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Have we discussed playing Badunga with Hunter enough? Still think its going to happen.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
So who’s destined for more playing time: Moore or Coit?
I wonder if it comes down to who’s hot plays, Zeke or Coit?
It’s very possible neither ends up playing a lot minutes unless Self expands his rotation past 8. I think it’s possible that happens though because on paper, this appears like a team that will frustrate the hell out of Self because there’s a lot of below average to terrible defenders on this team this season.
He recruited the players heh. But yeah we are definitely leaning into scoring but not a ton of defense. Best defensive 5 could be Juan/Moore/Griffen/KJ/Flory but who really knows yet…
This team is going to have to score a lot, and they will.
I do see Zeke likely being in the top 8 though. Juan/Griffen/Storr/KJ/Hunt. Then a primary bench of Zeke/Moore/Flory. Kease and Coit 9th/10th guys I am guessing. Some years where Kease would play more but we are deep this year.
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Did we talk about the Mayo Neal connection? https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article287341140.html
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This kid has some maturity to him and sounds like someone eager to prove himself again at this stage. Nice! Last guy we got in August turned out to be important to the team (Furphy).
Coit understands that he’s joining this roster demands him to do what’s best for the team.
“With or without me this is a great team,” Coit said. “The way I can help take them another level is just being another guy who can make plays, shoot and play off other good players. This is already a next-level team. So with me, I add depth, swagger-ball and hunger. If you know my story, coming from the bottom and getting it out of the mud, then you know that I bring a great mentality and I can help by being a great teammate, leader and solid person on and off the court.”
Now that he’s a Jayhawk, Coit has set his eye on a Big 12 title and a National Championship.
“Y’all got a kid who earned his way everywhere he went," he said when what KU fans can expect from his arrival. “I’m giving my heart to the program, town, state and the front and back of my jersey. I’m giving everything I got. I’m completely focused and locked in. I definitely can’t wait.”
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@BeddieKU23 the Humble Microwave. Love it
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Maybe he can help push Harris to score a bit more! It should help bringing his wisdom onboard, plus give us another very unique option! Winning games are often about matchups and sometimes I bet he can help us in that department.
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Certainly, some wishful thinking there. This definitely gives us 3 options at the 1 in a pinch if Coit can learn to be trusted with the ball. Hard to imagine finding a better option this late in the game that knew there was no big role waiting or big NIL coming his way in his last year.
This addition also seems to impact Jamari as it sounds like he will be redshirting this season. When he didn’t transfer out the word was, he was happy here regardless of role. They wanted to RS him last year and couldn’t but now have the opportunity to do so. Redshirts these days feel like finding a dinosaur but still good to see kids sticking around to try and improve their games (Clemence, Jamari).
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Yea, a Jamari redshirt makes sense. He seems to be at the tail end of any depth chart I can come up with.
The ability and development of Passmore may be key to his role.
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Jamari should redshirt to preserve his eligibility for after he transfers to North Texas.
