Transfer Rumblings
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@BeddieKU23 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Vern Smern saying Self wants Rice back, however Rice has apparently told people that he intends to transfer.
Well there had been rumblings even before MJ stepped foot on Campus if you remember rightly that MJ had some issues , and didn’t know if he would be able to make that adjustment. Looks like those rumors were true. - - Typical cas I think like it turns out some times - -some of these kids can’t handle the adjustment. - In high school or these circuits they are THE GUY - -AND IT’S ALL ABOUT ME , ME , ME- instead of team and learning a system - learning about the total aspect of the game it’s not just about everyone stepping back give me the ball and let me show off my so called skills - - OR NOT. lol
The sad part is --MJ has skills , but I think for one he just never bought into the defensive aspect and sa we know if your not willing to play defense or at least try then Bill really doesn’t have a spot for you on the floor. - MJ is just another case where he just didn’t grasp the team aspect totally lost on the defensive end - -that I think ws one of his problems, got in Coach’s dog house and hard to get out.
I think the rel telling factor or at least one of them really hit that he was DONE was when we was just moping our 1st round opponent in the tourney and MJ didn’t put a single foot on the court for a second in the end of the game- -Hell even Jankovich got on and no MJ - that was YEP- - HE IS GONE
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@BShark Wasn’t that his 2nd choice from the get go?
Good get for Boyton. Makes sense to me.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Wasn’t that his 2nd choice from the get go?
Good get for Boyton. Makes sense to me.
I believe so. His dad really likes Boynton.
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Well guess I’m just going to have to play the sit back and see game. I by far can’t judge talent enough - some but not to be a critic by far. - Been hearing both sides about the possibility of this kid Spencer Jones , some would be good with it0 - -others - ehhh maybe not. you got people saying that not that impressed by the possibility of taking two players from a 14-19 team
I will say he has a weird looking shot - -but I don’t give a rats ass if it goes in - -that’s good , hell he can shot put it in for all I care - - -just score. - this whole portal thing is crazy , going to be interesting to see where MJ lands. - -some people saying Self waned MJ to stay - -I’m not so sure about that , MAYBE - I mean he has got skills but just don’t think he eve bought in to the entire program
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@BShark low key I think Boyton is going to turn that OSU program into something to be feared again. I think if he can just have one good season the talent will just start rolling in for him. And then it may never stop.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark low key I think Boyton is going to turn that OSU program into something to be feared again. I think if he can just have one good season the talent will just start rolling in for him. And then it may never stop.
I’ve been thinking that too but man…he may just not have it. I think Tang is similar to Boynton plus actual coaching acumen however.
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@BShark It kills me, but Tang is elite. Has a lot of Bill’s coaching traits (great set plays, timely play calls, timeouts to kill momentum). Clearly can identify and land talent. He’s going to be a headache for as long as he’s in the B12.
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@Kcmatt7 fwiw The OSU alums I know want him gone.
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@dylans I would totally get why they’d want him gone. Especially in the day and age where you can turn around a program in 9 months (see Tang). But I also think he’s right on the cusp.
Maybe he needs an X’s and O’s assistant coach to get him over the hump.
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Definitely needs an offensive coach that can perhaps change his style up a bit.
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Yep we took a gamble and it looks like we won’t see any reward from it.
Chris Johnson is this years MJ. Perhaps not the same circumstances but Chris will likely have a hard time emotionally adjusting to Self if he hasn’t matured during his time at Montverde. That has been one of the main weaknesses pointed out by scouts etc. Bad habits tend to follow. We’ll see how he adjusts.
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RUMOR: Bill wants a back to the basket big from the portal badly.
This has me in my feelings. @Kcmatt7 @BeddieKU23
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I like Boynton, he needs to quit taking our leftovers. Wondering if they are matching our NIL for MJ?
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I mean it’s part of his identity. He made lemonade with KJ this year when Zach crapped the bed and the young bigs weren’t ready.
His problem was keeping Cam Martin for absolutely zero reason. Bill won’t bat 1.00 all the time
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@Crimsonorblue22 Money isn’t everything.
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@BShark I thought it was to him
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@Crimsonorblue22 Clearly he is very unhappy at Kansas. There are details I’d rather not repeat.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
RUMOR: Bill wants a back to the basket big from the portal badly.
This has me in my feelings. @Kcmatt7 @BeddieKU23
Should have tagged @drgnslayr He’s been banging that drum for a minute. Must have got in Bill’s ear.
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I wouldn’t be thrilled either if I was hurt all year and saw another frosh at my position go lotto
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Transfer Rumblings:
I like Boynton, he needs to quit taking our leftovers. Wondering if they are matching our NIL for MJ?
Is that MJ’s destination ? - -I hadn’t heard. Okie State ? - - kind of weird , cause Boynton likes his boys to play tight rugged chest to chest defense - - I don’t think MJ understands the word Defense.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
RUMOR: Bill wants a back to the basket big from the portal badly.
This has me in my feelings. @Kcmatt7 @BeddieKU23
Wait ? - -What ?- thought that was the least of what we were looking for
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@BeddieKU23 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Yep we took a gamble and it looks like we won’t see any reward from it.
Chris Johnson is this years MJ. Perhaps not the same circumstances but Chris will likely have a hard time emotionally adjusting to Self if he hasn’t matured during his time at Montverde. That has been one of the main weaknesses pointed out by scouts etc. Bad habits tend to follow. We’ll see how he adjusts.
Ya I’ve heard/read pretty much the same thing on Chris. - -Thinking dam WASH-- -RINSE— REPEAT .- just think this is part - -a huge part of some of these kids make up. and then they come to a place like here with Coach and they just can’t make that transition /adapt and it’s a bust. Hope for better results
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MJ just had an unfortunate start to his career. I can’t blame him for being mad at Yesefu getting more minutes though.
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A name for your Friday afternoon consumption https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/raequan-battle-1.html
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
A name for your Friday afternoon consumption https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/raequan-battle-1.html
Appears to fit the mold of what we are really going for with that open guard slot. Timberlake/Khalif Battle/HE WHO CAN NOT BE NAMED/Raequan Battle are all in a similar vein.
I need to watch tape but I think this kid would be third for me in this pecking order, ahead of Timberlake.
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@BShark his defense really sticks out to me. Low/mid major guards who can hit 35% from 3 are a dime a dozen. This dude GUARDS. Former 4* recruit too so you know there’s some real talent there, not just a stiff with a good jumper
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I think a big would be nice to help along the youngsters a Tarik Black type (ran into him at BWW the year he was here was, great guy). Watching other games we lack so much in speed and athleticism, Juan makes up for it most the time with brains and defense. But out guys aren’t out jumping or beating anyone in a foot race.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
A name for your Friday afternoon consumption https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/raequan-battle-1.html
Appears to fit the mold of what we are really going for with that open guard slot. Timberlake/Khalif Battle/HE WHO CAN NOT BE NAMED/Raequan Battle are all in a similar vein.
I need to watch tape but I think this kid would be third for me in this pecking order, ahead of Timberlake.
Oh man. I’d kill for Raequan Battle. I think he who shall not be named would be a stud, but RB would be a close second.
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@FarmerJayhawk He also can just turn into a microwave. This team desperately needs a guy who can put the team on his back for stretches. Only issue with him is that the ball is a little sticky. Not usually a problem for guys in Self’s system. If you don’t swing the ball you don’t play.
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@Kcmatt7 agreed. Self will beat it out of him if necessary. That team with the Stanford two plus possibly Udeh is a MENACE defensively as well with all the length
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Think we like Khalif Battle a lot. That one has the potential to get messy though based on what happened with him at Temple.
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Visit is being set up per Swain. BOOM.
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@BShark Battle?
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His Temple stats aren’t overwhelming. The way it ended kind of implied he quit on Temple, tho he denied it. Had a broken foot last year…why the love?
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@mayjay said in Transfer Rumblings:
His Temple stats aren’t overwhelming. The way it ended kind of implied he quit on Temple, tho he denied it. Had a broken foot last year…why the love?
We need someone that can really shoot and create his own offense. I think he’s option 1, ahead of the mystery guard. We will see…
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@mayjay idk, he’s down the board a ways for me. More of a microwave role guy ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Possible 3 years from one discussion if he gets a med redshirt. That might be an important point to HCBS.
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@mayjay that would be ideal. Bench year 1, start years 2-3.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@mayjay that would be ideal. Bench year 1, start years 2-3.
Don’t think he’s coming here to come off the bench lol.
I’m with you though he’s like third on my board for that spot based on the known guys. Behind the other Battle and the Mystery guard. Ahead of Timberlake. I adjusted this after doing more research. I fell in love with him for a minute earlier lol.
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Another concern for me is he was hurt two years in a row. Apparently healthy this year but quit on the team. Not great but maybe Self thinks he can fix him.
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@BShark What is the fix success rate here at KU?
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@mayjay said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark What is the fix success rate here at KU?
Uhhh
Malik Newman we count I think.
Trying to think of other clear attitude problem guys we have taken on.
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@BShark my concerns as well. Can’t stay healthy and had issues at Temple last year. When he’s on he’s good but we can’t rely on hope that he stays healthy. As a bench guy sure. But not to start more games next year than he has his entire career
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark my concerns as well. Can’t stay healthy and had issues at Temple last year. When he’s on he’s good but we can’t rely on hope that he stays healthy. As a bench guy sure. But not to start more games next year than he has his entire career
Gotta imagine the in person visit will be a big key here.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@mayjay said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark What is the fix success rate here at KU?
Uhhh
Malik Newman we count I think.
Trying to think of other clear attitude problem guys we have taken on.
Dedric Lawson was a pretty messy divorce from Memphis if I recall.
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How many of these texa$$ guys are headed to the nba?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Transfer Rumblings:
How many of these texa$$ guys are headed to the nba?
None, but they are going to lose Allen, Bishop, Carr, and Rice to eligibility.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah I’d count the Lawsons good call.
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It’s interesting how much the Texas money train doesn’t want Rodney to stay. I will say it’s hard to gauge from a stand point of him not building this talented team.
