Transfer Rumblings
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Bill just can’t help but fill all his schollies.
Would be a super solid addition. Would add much needed depth at the wing spot.
Death, taxes, Bill filling the roster no matter what.
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We really need another solid big so really sucks that KJ is hamstringing us there. But I guess another guard is fine
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
We really need another solid big so really sucks that KJ is hamstringing us there. But I guess another guard is fine
If I speak
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Bill just can’t help but fill all his schollies.
Would be a super solid addition. Would add much needed depth at the wing spot.
Death, taxes, Bill filling the roster no matter what.
Or is Self taking this route because he’s thinking there’s a decent chance he won’t have Morris for some or all of the season now and needed another stater/rotation level guard to fill that spot? Horton is a career 38% 3 point shooter on a faily high volume of shots.
His value to the team is that he can space the floor because he’s perimeter player that’s a proven good shooter at the P5 level based on his time at Pitt. He wouldn’t be asked to carry the scoring load, he’d be the guy you camp in the corner or wing and be the guy that gets kicked out to on drives when the defense collapses. He does fill a legitimate need for KU and I don’t think there’s a quality big that anyone here would be happy with that would come in and be okay playing behind Hunter and/or KJ.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
We really need another solid big so really sucks that KJ is hamstringing us there. But I guess another guard is fine
I really don’t think KJ is hamstringing the front court. Hunter Dickinson is a good enough 3 point shooter that he can run a lot of the sets intended for stretch 4’s in Self’s offense while KJ guards 4’s on defense. I also believe Self is planning on using Kevin McCullar as the primary back up at the 4 spot.
If Hunter plays 32 mpg, Parker Braun should be able play 8 mpg and not be a complete liability on both ends. To me at least, tge front court is in good shape in terms of playable depth as there are 4 guys who should be able to play and look like they belong on a P5 roster and could be 5 if Marcus Adams is playable from the get go.
The back court is where I have more concerns about playable depth going into the season. Is Morris going to be able to play because of his legal issues? Is Timberlake good enough to defend at the P5 level to play 15 mpg or so? Can Dejuan shoot enough 3’s to force defenses to respect that part of his game? Can Jackson play like the potential OAD a lot of sites are projecting him to be? Can McDowell contribute anything but garbage minutes?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 “don’t recruit anyone else at my spot or I’m leaving” will do it
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Sounds like we only have 8 guys who will see real playing time this year. Seven if Morris has legal issues. I included Braun in that mix, so assuming he can step up to this level. If not, maybe even 6.
Other than Elmarko, not counting on the other freshmen. so, another proven player doesn’t hurt, despite the fact that this will be his FOURTH school. really hate that.
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@FarmerJayhawk Yikes and Bill puts up with that? If we could have gotten Nelson but then kj transfers what would you do?
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@kuballin10 if there’s one thing Bill is best at its managing egos.
Man, if you gave me the choice for next year I’m taking Nelson. But he wasn’t a guarantee by any means and if you chase off KJ and miss on Nelson you’re in a world of hurt. So I get the strategy but also the Adams family was being difficult here when they really didn’t need to be.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk Yikes and Bill puts up with that? If we could have gotten Nelson but then kj transfers what would you do?
KJ is a proven double digit scorer in the B12 and above average defender against top level competition. Don’t forget that Self subbed KJ in on the final possession of the title game for defense.
I’m sure plenty of people will disagree, but I’d rather have KJ than Grant Nelson because you’ll get two years out of KJ as opposed to most likely one year out of Nelson. While there are areas Nelson is definitely better than KJ, rebounding being the most notable, Nelson isn’t better than KJ in enough areas to make me say that I’d rather have Nelson for one year instead of KJ for two.
This is also why I don’t think losing Udeh and Zuby is that bad in the long run. Udeh left when he found out Hunter would most likely be here for two years. I will absolutely take two years of Dickinson over three years of Udeh and/or Zuby because Dickinson will be in the running for NPOY both of his years and I don’t believe Udeh or Zuby have that ceiling.
TLDR version: Grant Nelson isn’t better enough than KJ overall to justify bringing Nelson in for one year and losing KJ for two years. Compare that to Hunter Dickinson whonI absolutely believe is better than Udeh and Zuby by enough to justify losing those two for three year to get Dickinson’s production for the next two years.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk Yikes and Bill puts up with that? If we could have gotten Nelson but then kj transfers what would you do?
I will also say that no, Self doesn’t put up with stuff like that when he doesn’t believe the player has the value to justify that. Self made the decision that two years of KJ was better than one year of Grant Nelson and I agree with that overall evaluation and see my above post for my explanation.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 For this year if it brings us a title I’d ride with whoever whether Nelson or KJ.
With how it was outlined by you and Farmer I’d go KJ for sure. I’m curious to see how he does playing that 4 spot this year in terms of what kind of numbers he puts up.
The inverted Jokic game with Hunter would be legit!
I love me some KJ so easy to trust Bill on this one yet two footers that can rebound and score a multitude of ways (Hunter and Nelson) would have been fun to see.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Texas-Hawk-10 “don’t recruit anyone else at my spot or I’m leaving” will do it
Frustrating as hell because we all like KJ but we should’ve went after Nelson.
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I like KJ, but getting recruited over happens.
Toughen up, buttercup. You’ll play more minutes than you deserve as Bill loves ya
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Horton visit is unlikely to happen. Texas closed on him last night.
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“Let’s go, while we’re young!” – Al Czervik
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What?
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Chef Bill is cooking in the international kitchen.
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Don’t think we will see another addition until after the PR games.
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@BShark Morris good?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Morris good?
Good player the legal case is up in the air.
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@BShark that’s what I meant. Thought maybe his legal problems were cleared up by now. So we don’t know if he’s going to PR?
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@Crimsonorblue22 he’s not. The trial is around those dates.
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Chef Bill is cooking in the international kitchen.
Aussie guy?
Furphy?
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Chef Bill is cooking in the international kitchen.
Aussie guy?
Furphy?
that was my guess seeing that he’s the only international guy we offered but idk. He’s more of a wing than a guard
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Crimsonorblue22 he’s not. The trial is around those dates.
Yeah he won’t be, Bossi and Swain are both being told that. HILARIOUSLY Shay today said otherwise. Incredible content right now.
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Chef Bill is cooking in the international kitchen.
Aussie guy?
Furphy?
that was my guess seeing that he’s the only international guy we offered but idk. He’s more of a wing than a guard
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A UMKC GUY
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This kid does look good
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Wow sign us up
The bounce on him is something
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Talent on the court not great
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Kid reminds me a lot of CB.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Talent on the court not great
There’s been a few dudes who have shown out at NBA global academy. Josh Giddey, Benedict Mathurin, Dyson Daniels. Totally down for furphy
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
This kid does look good
Self has gotten his archetype drafted and paid…
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Chef Bill is cooking in the international kitchen.
Aussie guy?
Furphy?
that was my guess seeing that he’s the only international guy we offered but idk. He’s more of a wing than a guard
Jumps well, but wing span is suspect…
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Question now is will KU go after and try to get Ledlum the transfer from Harvard on Campus for a visit? - Originally committed to Tenn , be has de-committed & has re-opened recruitment.
^'6 Averaged 18.8 and avg 8.5 rebound for Harvard his jr season. Like the article from fansided read could add some needed depth at the wing spot , might be worth checking into. Pretty big recruit this late in the portal- still hasn’t chosen a school. like article said pretty unusual this kind of player no school yet in the portal
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@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Question now is will KU go after and try to get Ledlum the transfer from Harvard on Campus for a visit? - Originally committed to Tenn , be has de-committed & has re-opened recruitment.
^'6 Averaged 18.8 and avg 8.5 rebound for Harvard his jr season. Like the article from fansided read could add some needed depth at the wing spot , might be worth checking into. Pretty big recruit this late in the portal- still hasn’t chosen a school. like article said pretty unusual this kind of player no school yet in the portal
Since he’s an Ivy League kid and they didn’t play in 2020-21, I’m hoping that would mean he still has 2 years of eligibility left. If that’s the case, I would absolutely make a run at him as I’ve been high on him since he entered the portal. If he only has 1 year, then I would pass because I don’t think it’d be a great fit for him because he’s a potential pro and KU wouldn’t be able to give him the minutes he’d need. With two years left though, he’d absolutely be able to showcase himself at KU in 2023-24.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Question now is will KU go after and try to get Ledlum the transfer from Harvard on Campus for a visit? - Originally committed to Tenn , be has de-committed & has re-opened recruitment.
^'6 Averaged 18.8 and avg 8.5 rebound for Harvard his jr season. Like the article from fansided read could add some needed depth at the wing spot , might be worth checking into. Pretty big recruit this late in the portal- still hasn’t chosen a school. like article said pretty unusual this kind of player no school yet in the portal
Since he’s an Ivy League kid and they didn’t play in 2020-21, I’m hoping that would mean he still has 2 years of eligibility left. If that’s the case, I would absolutely make a run at him as I’ve been high on him since he entered the portal. If he only has 1 year, then I would pass because I don’t think it’d be a great fit for him because he’s a potential pro and KU wouldn’t be able to give him the minutes he’d need. With two years left though, he’d absolutely be able to showcase himself at KU in 2023-24.
ya, I would be in for going after him, although I dunno about how much eligibility he has, article didn’t mention anything on that I don’t believe. He certainly could help, I think it mentioned last year when KU played Harvard he came in and got a 18 point and 9 rebound performance - -tough kid
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And he’s willing to walk on for a NIL deal so I’m down
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
And he’s willing to walk on for a NIL deal so I’m down
No way! There’s that much NIL still money available ?
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@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Question now is will KU go after and try to get Ledlum the transfer from Harvard on Campus for a visit? - Originally committed to Tenn , be has de-committed & has re-opened recruitment.
^'6 Averaged 18.8 and avg 8.5 rebound for Harvard his jr season. Like the article from fansided read could add some needed depth at the wing spot , might be worth checking into. Pretty big recruit this late in the portal- still hasn’t chosen a school. like article said pretty unusual this kind of player no school yet in the portal
Since he’s an Ivy League kid and they didn’t play in 2020-21, I’m hoping that would mean he still has 2 years of eligibility left. If that’s the case, I would absolutely make a run at him as I’ve been high on him since he entered the portal. If he only has 1 year, then I would pass because I don’t think it’d be a great fit for him because he’s a potential pro and KU wouldn’t be able to give him the minutes he’d need. With two years left though, he’d absolutely be able to showcase himself at KU in 2023-24.
ya, I would be in for going after him, although I dunno about how much eligibility he has, article didn’t mention anything on that I don’t believe. He certainly could help, I think it mentioned last year when KU played Harvard he came in and got a 18 point and 9 rebound performance - -tough kid
If he’s a one year guy, I don’t think he’d be interested in KU because there won’t be that many minutes available for him because he’s a good player, but not a better player than Kevin McCullar though. The biggest drawback to Ledlum is that he’s not a good shooter. Low 60’s for FT’s for his career and sub 30% 3 point shooter for his career. If wants more than 12-15 mpg next season, then I can’t see him coming to KU because of that.
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I think KU may be doing it wrong. Kids like Hunter Dickinson with the huge NIL deals should be walk-ons saving the schollys for the little guy who needs the money. I think there are rules about official visits or some nonsense making a kid ineligible for a walk-on spot; would have to figure out how to skirt that rule.
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There is never going to be a perfect system. The schools treat it like it is a pro sport. The NCAA allowed that to happen forever ago. The players finally recognized their power and the P5 schools did as well.
The genie is out of the bottle at this point.
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Furphy might be a need now with the Adams leaving…
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With Adams leaving, is the Harvard SF on the “want list”? He’s 6’6”……
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I mentioned him earlier, I think he should now get a huge push from us
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
Furphy might be a need now with the Adams leaving…
A need and priority target to begin with. No coincidences in recruiting. Marcus wasn’t going to be in the rotation this year. The push to add another player came after practices started.
