Transfer Rumblings
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if nelson was a legit shooter it would be like the grizzlies front court of having Jaren Jackson as the rangy floor spacing 4 who can protect the rim.
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@rcjhdraft his shot mechanically is good - I think with he, Hunter and Juan - he has better looks versus 1 on 1
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Not having to lead his team in every single category would help his efficiency IMO
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@FarmerJayhawk lots of Arkansas talk and UVA as well from trilly Donovan
If Arkansas gets Nelson and Holland their lineup would be loaded
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@Crimsonorblue22 Pretty sure he is being facetious…we all know quality transfers can really do great! It is just bizarre to claim that they could only do well if they just are willing to wait another year or two.
Not sure their only concern is the NBA, though. Being a starter somewhere gives them huge exposure for eventual play internationally where the game hasn’t devolved to the 1-on-1 isolations now dominating the NBA. Traditional centers have a future overseas.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk lots of Arkansas talk and UVA as well from trilly Donovan
If Arkansas gets Nelson and Holland their lineup would be loaded
Arkansas’s plan A is devo Davis and holland
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@BShark To me if you go to a blue blood, you should expect to be recruited over to an extent. They go after the best players every year, to me its common sense.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk lots of Arkansas talk and UVA as well from trilly Donovan
If Arkansas gets Nelson and Holland their lineup would be loaded
they are going to have to unload players for these guys- -already got a football roster full of players–
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@FarmerJayhawk Bill Self simply not allowing him to take dumb shots will as well.
Playing next to Juan, Kev, Morris/Jackson, and KJ also will increase it.
Hard to watch his tape and not be impressed. I’m a huge numbers guy, but the talent is there in this case.
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Looks like we are done with the roster wow. Sounds like the last spot was between Kevin and Grant.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Looks like we are done with the roster wow. Sounds like the last spot was between Kevin and Grant.
Because of NIL?
Bill is not one to pocket a scholarship, much less essentially two. Sort of surprising to me if true. Also surprised Bill is okay being this thin at the 5 spot.
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@BShark does that mean we are planning on burning another one of those scholarship penalties this year?
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Looks like we are done with the roster wow. Sounds like the last spot was between Kevin and Grant.
Because of NIL?
Bill is not one to pocket a scholarship, much less essentially two. Sort of surprising to me if true. Also surprised Bill is okay being this thin at the 5 spot.
I would assume yes. Based on the numbers I am hearing (grain of salt) Kevin was more expensive.
Also TIFWIW but I have heard Parker is actually going to play and that we like him.
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@benshawks08 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark does that mean we are planning on burning another one of those scholarship penalties this year?
Correct.
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@BShark All because Self said he’s going to play kj on the wing which he’s committed to and his bias is coming into play.
Could bolster the roster and be unstoppable but settles.
That’s not taking KU to another level. Getting Nelson takes KU to another level.
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Dajuan timberlake mccullar kj hunter is some terrible spacing.
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Dajuan timberlake mccullar kj hunter is some terrible spacing.
Even more hilarious when Terio starts at the 2. Biiiill Self.
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love when we 2nd guess Bill Self - almost as Hilarious- -think I’ll hold on and ride with Coach
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@BShark Bill is an idiot if he’s watched two years of KJ and thinks he can be a 4 man.
KJ is your backup 5 with this roster. If the whole “we want as many shooters around Hunter” crap is true then it’d be
Juan - Morris - Timberlake - Mccullar - Hunter
Bench - Jackson, KJ, Braun and Marcus
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Bill is an idiot if he’s watched two years of KJ and thinks he can be a 4 man.
KJ is your backup 5 with this roster. If the whole “we want as many shooters around Hunter” crap is true then it’d be
Juan - Morris - Timberlake - Mccullar - Hunter
Bench - Jackson, KJ, Braun and Marcus
KJ will start though I will bet anything on it. I think I mentioned it before but I think Bill will get away from it eventually but it will take at least 15 games imo.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Bill is an idiot if he’s watched two years of KJ and thinks he can be a 4 man.
KJ is your backup 5 with this roster. If the whole “we want as many shooters around Hunter” crap is true then it’d be
Juan - Morris - Timberlake - Mccullar - Hunter
Bench - Jackson, KJ, Braun and Marcus
Why? Even if you think the offense will be hot garbage with KJ at the 4 spot, this team doesn’t have to be great on offense because this will be an elite defensive team with Harris, Morris, McCullar, KJ, and Dickinson because Harris, Morris, McCullar, and KJ are all above average to elite level defenders. Teams are going to struggle to score 65 points against KU next season so KU doesn’t have to be the highest scoring team next year to be really good.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Dajuan timberlake mccullar kj hunter is some terrible spacing.
Even more hilarious when Terio starts at the 2. Biiiill Self.
The defense would be elite…but the offense would need Morris to live up to all recruiting expectations
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@BShark Yes, another McCormack and Doke type deal. It can work if Hunter can hit the top of the key 3 consistently.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t disagree but when we run into a good offensive team in the tourney that will test how truly good the D is
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Yes, another McCormack and Doke type deal. It can work if Hunter can hit the top of the key 3 consistently.
Is there a reason to Dickinson won’t be able do that based on how much his shot has improved at Michigan?
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t disagree but when we run into a good offensive team in the tourney that will test how truly good the D is
We’ll know long before that just what this defense can do against top offenses before March.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 how fast is Hunter, can he run the floor?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I think he can and he will. Think Bill showed him some Morrii tape and said - go get 23&10 big fella
Regarding the defensive stuff we will play our best competition early in Maui.
UK is down and we will get uconn in the friendly confines of AFH.
IU on the road is a nice test.
Big 12 I think will be down this year and that will inflate our defensive rankings prior to the tourney. I’ve not researched much on other big 12 teams but seems besides wvu most will be worse from the twitterverse
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I’m just not buying that we’re done adding. Does not seem like Bill Self to me. Even if it isn’t Nelson.
I do think he might have seen the issue with too many mouths to feed last year. But that is a 2024 problem. You’ve got a NC caliber roster you could put over the top with one more depth add at the 4/5 spot.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Does not seem like Bill Self to me.
Same man that signed Whitman, Maxwell etc so I agree but that is the chatter right now.
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The natives are restless in Lexington Kentucky. Absolute scenes.
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@BShark it’s been such a bad portal season for them that either things are horribly, horribly wrong or Cal knows things others don’t.
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The three they’d hope come back, apparently aren’t. Oscar staying in the draft for sure.
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Kobe Brown staying in the draft. Some Iowa smoke on Twitter with Nelson.
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Have to question NIL game with UK if they aren’t able to get any of their three back…
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Have to question NIL game with UK if they aren’t able to get any of their three back…
They have money, which makes this weirder.
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Isn’t Nelson going G-League?
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Wonder if Nelson will plan to visit soon? He’s apparently visiting Alabama… I think we would have heard something about him or anyone else setting up a visit by now, or in the next few days… if Self thinks there is a need for a shooting 4, then Self will get someone. If not, then we’re all set. This has been arguably the wildest offseason I’ve ever seen. 8 effing transfers leaving KU- yikes. And next year, the question will be not which of our recruits will leave, but who will stay.
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@Bosthawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
Wonder if Nelson will plan to visit soon? He’s apparently visiting Alabama… I think we would have heard something about him or anyone else setting up a visit by now, or in the next few days… if Self thinks there is a need for a shooting 4, then Self will get someone. If not, then we’re all set. This has been arguably the wildest offseason I’ve ever seen. 8 effing transfers leaving KU- yikes
The crazy thing is I think we likely only end up truly missing one of the bigs out of this whole group. I’d lean towards that being Zuby, honestly as I think he will end up a 16ppg guy eventually. I get it though, Self was able to land a star in the portal.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Bosthawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
Wonder if Nelson will plan to visit soon? He’s apparently visiting Alabama… I think we would have heard something about him or anyone else setting up a visit by now, or in the next few days… if Self thinks there is a need for a shooting 4, then Self will get someone. If not, then we’re all set. This has been arguably the wildest offseason I’ve ever seen. 8 effing transfers leaving KU- yikes
The crazy thing is I think we likely only end up truly missing one of the bigs out of this whole group. I’d lean towards that being Zuby, honestly as I think he will end up a 16ppg guy eventually. I get it though, Self was able to land a star in the portal.
I said before Zuby and Udeh left that I felt Zuby has the higher ceiling long term over Udeh. I think both have a similar ceiling in offense, but I believe Zuby is the better overall defender. Zuby was a significantly better rebounder and actually was a better shot blocker than Udeh.
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@BShark Zuby would have really thrived as a 4 year guy under Self.
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I’m so happy for Udeh -couldn’t be better
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Kentucky is a sewage dump right now , people going insane. – Oscar Gone , Livingston gone , Reeves is gone .- -Oh they will be decent, they still have quality players but Kentucky base feels it’s the end of the world
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It’s pretty inexplicable that calipari didn’t get a single transfer. Out of those three players, Reeves seemed like the only one with a solid shot of coming back.
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So - is the consensus here that we are now done adding players despite having one more scholarship ???
Just curious
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Seth Davis has us as a prohibitive favorite for number 1 now that Kev has come back.
https://theathletic.com/4571190/2023/06/01/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-purdue-kentucky/
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Makes sense. Kev should be first team all conference this season. This was bigger then any transfer we got
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I really don’t think we should be the heavy favorite we are. I just don’t know that we have enough scoring from the perimeter. I think Jackson or Morris could be total studs. So I’m not saying that it is impossible. I just don’t like putting those expectations on either of them.
We need Kev and KJ to really take a step forward this season.
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Just to curb the enthusiasm a bit, I wonder where UConn was on the 2022-23 preseason ranking?
Oh yeah. Not even on the list. San Diego State was #23.
https://theathletic.com/3680987/2022/10/17/college-basketball-top-25-unc-zags-kentucky/
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GRAPEVINE HEARINGS from a former CBB coach.
Oscar was working out here and Calipari showed up to make him an offer to return: https://www.thecarolinafactory.com/
Oscar was offered FOUR MILLION DOLLARS by Calipari and he turned it down.
Seeming like a lot of kids are now determining that Calipari isn’t even worth the money.
