Transfer Rumblings
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
In a theoretical world where Bill can’t get the 4th scholarship open I think Tyson + Mgbako makes a ton of sense. Tyson’s flexibility helps.
Guards: Juan/Elmarko/Timberlake/Tyson
Wing/4: Tyson/Marcus/Mgbako
Post: KJ/Udeh/Zuby
That’s a legit 8 deep with an emergency big.
Legit is one way of putting that… Very mid. 8 deep of meh.
The only thing that makes me hesitant is you would need a fair bit from at least 2 FR, which is a concern. I’d love for the 4th scholarship to pop loose.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
The bright side of that lineup is that it can really shoot. But still lacking guys who can get points off the bounce.
Yet you don’t want Primo, CURIOSUUUU
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
The bright side of that lineup is that it can really shoot. But still lacking guys who can get points off the bounce.
That’s supposed to be Elmarko’s strength, right? Points off the bounce.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
The bright side of that lineup is that it can really shoot. But still lacking guys who can get points off the bounce.
Yet you don’t want Primo, CURIOSUUUU
Why I don’t like Primo:
- takes a million long 2s. Hate.
- Has won 13 games total in his two seasons playing college ball… I mean c’mon
- Will not get a waiver
- Small guard, not sure that we need that or that we can effectively defend with him/Juan/Elmarko.
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@rockchalkjayhawk I just discount that ability for him as a freshman. Not wanting to put too much hope in the hands of a freshman under Bill Self.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rockchalkjayhawk I just discount that ability for him as a freshman. Not wanting to put too much hope in the hands of a freshman under Bill Self.
Yup, freshman discount must be applied. Thats why we need stud portal guys!
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
The bright side of that lineup is that it can really shoot. But still lacking guys who can get points off the bounce.
Yet you don’t want Primo, CURIOSUUUU
Why I don’t like Primo:
- takes a million long 2s. Hate.
- Has won 13 games total in his two seasons playing college ball… I mean c’mon
- Will not get a waiver
- Small guard, not sure that we need that or that we can effectively defend with him/Juan/Elmarko.
My brother you liked Joe.
The waiver is the biggest sticking point to me. If they think he will get it he’s a take as long as he is willing to come off the bench/not be assured of a starting spot. I don’t think you are ever putting him out there with Juan AND Elmarko.
If you take what I posted earlier and add Spears it looks even better. Takes potentially relying on Marcus out of the equation a bit (Mgbako is certainly better than Marcus).
ETA: That relies on getting the 4th spot loose, which really feels like a massive key in all of this. Cuffe/CJ/McDowell is a lot of dead weight when we are going down to 12.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rockchalkjayhawk I just discount that ability for him as a freshman. Not wanting to put too much hope in the hands of a freshman under Bill Self.
Yup, freshman discount must be applied. Thats why we need stud portal guys!
Elmarko is the frosh I’m the most sure on, but it’s true you never know until they get on campus and start practicing.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
My brother you liked Joe.
I’ve learned lol. And at least Joe played decent ball for a tournament team before we took him… Not to mention he literally had the best 3pt% catch and shoot in the nation. I don’t think many predicted he’d be a total complete bust right when we got him.
Primo off the bench is fine I suppose. But it is such a disappointing turn of events to go from Murrell/Ingram/Jones to Primo/Timberlake/Tyson or Mgbako.
The portal class has really gone from “wow holy shit we’re gonna be so good” to “we’ll be lucky to have single digit losses.”
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@BeddieKU23 What’s wrong with Pulman? Totally unfamiliar with Wash!
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@mayjay said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BeddieKU23 What’s wrong with Pulman? Totally unfamiliar with Wash!
Even the cows hate Pullman.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
My brother you liked Joe.
I’ve learned lol. And at least Joe played decent ball for a tournament team before we took him… Not to mention he literally had the best 3pt% catch and shoot in the nation. I don’t think many predicted he’d be a total complete bust right when we got him.
Primo off the bench is fine I suppose. But it is such a disappointing turn of events to go from Murrell/Ingram/Jones to Primo/Timberlake/Tyson or Mgbako.
The portal class has really gone from “wow holy shit we’re gonna be so good” to “we’ll be lucky to have single digit losses.”
Yeah, we had some rough tamper whiffs, then Bill slowplayed Ingram for Tyson so he better hit there.
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Ok, so does Morris announce KU tomorrow ?
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@mayjay said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BeddieKU23 What’s wrong with Pulman? Totally unfamiliar with Wash!
It’s a dump with a college in it.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Ok, so does Morris announce KU tomorrow ?
Think Depaul now
DePaul thankfully. It’s a wrap.
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Did not want him anywhere near Lawrence Kansas. He can rehab in Chicago.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Did not want him anywhere near Lawrence Kansas. He can rehab in Chicago.
Thank goodness. Now it’s a wait-and-see with KU v UK on Hunter.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
My brother you liked Joe.
I’ve learned lol. And at least Joe played decent ball for a tournament team before we took him… Not to mention he literally had the best 3pt% catch and shoot in the nation. I don’t think many predicted he’d be a total complete bust right when we got him.
Primo off the bench is fine I suppose. But it is such a disappointing turn of events to go from Murrell/Ingram/Jones to Primo/Timberlake/Tyson or Mgbako.
The portal class has really gone from “wow holy shit we’re gonna be so good” to “we’ll be lucky to have single digit losses.”
Yeah, we had some rough tamper whiffs, then Bill slowplayed Ingram for Tyson so he better hit there.
Whiff on Dickinson and whiff on Tyson and we are in huge trouble. Both seem possible.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
My brother you liked Joe.
I’ve learned lol. And at least Joe played decent ball for a tournament team before we took him… Not to mention he literally had the best 3pt% catch and shoot in the nation. I don’t think many predicted he’d be a total complete bust right when we got him.
Primo off the bench is fine I suppose. But it is such a disappointing turn of events to go from Murrell/Ingram/Jones to Primo/Timberlake/Tyson or Mgbako.
The portal class has really gone from “wow holy shit we’re gonna be so good” to “we’ll be lucky to have single digit losses.”
Yeah, we had some rough tamper whiffs, then Bill slowplayed Ingram for Tyson so he better hit there.
Whiff on Dickinson and whiff on Tyson and we are in huge trouble. Both seem possible.
Cal or us for Tyson. If we can’t beat out Cal I can’t even.
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@BShark Would be curious how close he and Aimaq are. I feel like Cal has an advantage just because of familiarity.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Would be curious how close he and Aimaq are. I feel like Cal has an advantage just because of familiarity.
A coach there as well, but he is listening to us.
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OH MY GOD
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Grant Nelson?
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@PharmacyHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
Grant Nelson?
Should be entering today but we’ll see. If we don’t get Hunter that’s a call.
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@PharmacyHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
Grant Nelson?
Many people (on Twitter) are saying. I like him a lot. But also where the fit isn’t totally seamless
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@FarmerJayhawk In what way?
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Isn’t he like the perfect fit? Could play next to Udeh or KJ. Gives you a great pick and pop or pick and roll guy. Able to get his own shot. Very athletic for a guy his size. Both vertically and laterally.
I realize he played in the Summit. But I feel like he’s a take 100% of the time and you figure out the rest later.
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@Kcmatt7 he’s still raw. In baseball parlance I’d say he’s toolsy. Very turnover prone and isn’t a great 3 point shooter even though he likes to take them. Not super strong either, so isn’t someone you’ll just throw it to in the post.
The adjustment from Summit League to Big 12 will be steep obviously. I think Bill can get a ton out of him eventually, but it’ll take some time.
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@FarmerJayhawk That’s probably fair. If he can get that 3-ball figured out this offseason though he’s an impossible guard. At the very least, he’s a great add to the 4-5 rotation. Even if it is only 20-25mpg.
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@Kcmatt7 100% agree. I think he’s an add 10/10 times regardless of what Hunter does because, like you said, he’s got lots of versatility. And would mitigate the negative of not getting a big wing to play the 4 since he can do some of those things. To be honest he might be a better 4 than Tyson if the shot comes around. Tyson is kind of a stiff.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 100% agree. I think he’s an add 10/10 times regardless of what Hunter does because, like you said, he’s got lots of versatility. And would mitigate the negative of not getting a big wing to play the 4 since he can do some of those things. To be honest he might be a better 4 than Tyson if the shot comes around. Tyson is kind of a stiff.
Yes please jump on the hype train. Grant Nelson with a 38% trey ball & Dickinson at the 5.
Just give us the trophy now.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Ok, so does Morris announce KU tomorrow ?
Think Depaul now
well can’t say I would be overly upset, I guess I was just missing things cause I just wasn’t that impressed with him when I did see him play. Probably wrong but add the baggage and have to pass
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@Kcmatt7 at that point you could play 3 guards because the interior length and rebounding is silly. Juan Elmarko Timberlake Nelson Hunter let’s gooooo
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If that did happen, I can just imagine Bill dusting off the ole floppy disk playbook for the hi-lo offense lol.
The trail 3 ball from Dickinson &/or Nelson
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@Kcmatt7 the Morrii, but white
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 he’s still raw. In baseball parlance I’d say he’s toolsy. Very turnover prone and isn’t a great 3 point shooter even though he likes to take them. Not super strong either, so isn’t someone you’ll just throw it to in the post.
The adjustment from Summit League to Big 12 will be steep obviously. I think Bill can get a ton out of him eventually, but it’ll take some time.
how much eligibility would he have ? - numbers ? - - hght ?
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@jayballer67 2 years to play, 6’11 230. 18/9/2 last year at NDSU.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 2 years to play, 6’11 230. 18/9/2 last year at NDSU.
Oh well dang - - vey nice , sweet size -sounds solid – really nice stats, now how that would play out in the jump in level of competition w would see, happy for 2 years to play- very nice. So is he a 4 or a 5 - -gotta be a 5 pretty dam big for a 4
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
If that did happen, I can just imagine Bill dusting off the ole floppy disk playbook for the hi-lo offense lol.
The trail 3 ball from Dickinson &/or Nelson
I love this.
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I assumed Hunter/Grant was an either/or situation but of course you’d take both lol.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 100% agree. I think he’s an add 10/10 times regardless of what Hunter does because, like you said, he’s got lots of versatility. And would mitigate the negative of not getting a big wing to play the 4 since he can do some of those things. To be honest he might be a better 4 than Tyson if the shot comes around. Tyson is kind of a stiff.
Yes please jump on the hype train. Grant Nelson with a 38% trey ball & Dickinson at the 5.
Just give us the trophy now.
I don’t understand this thought that adding Dickinson just makes us a contender or final 4 lock. Juwan isn’t Bill Self obviously but he just played with two pros and didn’t even make the tournament.
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I’m slowly but surely grasping that Hunter is taking his time , visiting countless Achools and yes - -he has that right , he has all the leverage and he can take his time , he deserves to take his time. However , now for some reason if Grant should want to visit and then end up wanting to come & Hunter still hasn’t decided- -then it’s time to move on from Hunter and take Grant, no hard feelings but if you have a player of what sounds like a very solid player , you can’t continue to pass and continue to wait on Hunter. - -Good luck to Hunter and you take Grant, cause you continue to wait , miss out on Grant and Hunter ends up elsewhere then that’s not good. - -Hope we can possibly get a visit from the kid
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 100% agree. I think he’s an add 10/10 times regardless of what Hunter does because, like you said, he’s got lots of versatility. And would mitigate the negative of not getting a big wing to play the 4 since he can do some of those things. To be honest he might be a better 4 than Tyson if the shot comes around. Tyson is kind of a stiff.
Yes please jump on the hype train. Grant Nelson with a 38% trey ball & Dickinson at the 5.
Just give us the trophy now.
I don’t understand this thought that adding Dickinson just makes us a contender or final 4 lock. Juwan isn’t Bill Self obviously but he just played with two pros and didn’t even make the tournament.
Does anyone actually think that? Juan Elmarko Timberlake KJ Hunter can win the league for sure but seems a second weekend ceiling type group
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@FarmerJayhawk Gotta add more.
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@jayballer67 Hunter’s going to decide before Nelson even has any visits scheduled. I bet he goes all the way to the wire on the draft process, so Nelson would be more a June add.
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Working on some info, hopefully soon.
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@TYOHawk Well this post had us adding Nelson AND Dickinson. I do not think adding Dickinson alone to the current roster is getting them a FF.
But if you add Nelson to that mix you get that Timme/Holmgren type of combo that Zags had a couple of seasons ago. I think that team could make a run.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
My brother you liked Joe.
I’ve learned lol. And at least Joe played decent ball for a tournament team before we took him… Not to mention he literally had the best 3pt% catch and shoot in the nation. I don’t think many predicted he’d be a total complete bust right when we got him.
Primo off the bench is fine I suppose. But it is such a disappointing turn of events to go from Murrell/Ingram/Jones to Primo/Timberlake/Tyson or Mgbako.
The portal class has really gone from “wow holy shit we’re gonna be so good” to “we’ll be lucky to have single digit losses.”
Yeah, we had some rough tamper whiffs, then Bill slowplayed Ingram for Tyson so he better hit there.
Whiff on Dickinson and whiff on Tyson and we are in huge trouble. Both seem possible.
Cal or us for Tyson. If we can’t beat out Cal I can’t even.
Hey, don’t discount the lure of the beautiful Bay Area! (he says as he’s married to a Cal grad)
