Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football



  • Hey everyone! Long time no talk.

    I think the media that covers this team have their brains pickled by the last 13 years. Either that or they’re just flat out terrible at their jobs.

    Going into the first game of the season, it was understandable to be a little cautious about what to expect. I personally found all of those predictions of 2-3 wins to be quite low, but I could at least understand the perspective.

    Going into WVU, I could understand expecting a loss. After watching KU take control of that game to win by double digits, albeit due to a pick 6 in OT that was pretty unlikely, those cautious expectations became less understandable.

    Going into the game against Houston, I understood thinking it would be difficult to win that game. But here’s where I started to think that there was some abject cognitive dissonance going on in the KU media. To those that expected a 48-31 KU loss I ask this…did you watch Houston at all prior to the game on 9/17? I did. I was at least curious to know what our upcoming competition looked like. Houston mustered about 350 yards of total offense, in a game that went into double overtime mind you, against a Texas Tech team that gained around 500 yards in total offense. TTU’s backup QB threw for over 350 yards alone against Houston. Their backfield also had a respectable day against Houston.

    Now, I don’t write for the LJW, or host a radio show on WKLN, but wasn’t TTU one of the games most people circled as a possible win for KU? Houston probably should’ve won that game, to be fair. But I don’t understand how we think that TTU was a possible win but Houston was a certain loss. Is it because it was on the road? Houston averages 25k fans a game. That would be good enough for dead last among P5 schools (that’s lower than KU!). KU players said after the game that it felt like they were playing at home. Chalk me up as genuinely confused why that game was considered an automatic loss.

    The same sort of brain dead lazy takes appear to be rearing their ugly heads again for the game against Duke this upcoming Saturday. I can’t tell you how many 31-28, 37-31, 34-31 predictions I’ve heard coming into this game. Just like with Houston, I ask, WHY? Duke is easily the second worst team on KU’s schedule. They have played the third easiest schedule in college football against some truly, truly terrible competition. Temple may be the worst team in all of FBS football, Northwestern might be right there with them, and NC A&T, for as terrible as they are, ran for 217 yards against Duke! That’s over 5 yards a carry! KU on the other hand is averaging 7 yards per carry against much tougher defenses (at least I thought, right?). This is where I think the “JD is due for some regression” talk to be absurd. KU is successful because they don’t need JD to throw the ball 60 times to win. They have a mobile QB (who’s leading the team in rushing, I might add), along with 2 solid RB’s in Hishaw and Devin Neal. When JD has had to throw he’s been incredibly efficient. But I’ll just offer those rushing statistics as a freebee. That should be an obvious one for you guys and I’m not sure you even bothered to look. Oh, also, NC A&T converted 8/14 on third downs. That’s really bad for a Duke defense that I’ve been told is good against a winless opponent…KU is converting on 69 (nice) percent of their third downs.

    That’s just one of Duke’s opponent’s too! They easily could’ve lost to Northwestern, or at a minimum gone to OT before Northwestern fumbled the ball at the goal line with an opportunity to tie the game! The same Northwestern team that just lost at home to Southern Illinois, I might add.

    To your credit, most of you are picking KU to win against Duke. But even from there, I don’t really understand where the predictions for the rest of the season are coming from. I’ve heard Scott Chasen say, “I have this team finishing the season at 5-7 or 6-6 [after beating Duke 31-28].” Uh….what? You have KU going 1-7 down the stretch? Why? I know the Big 12 is good, it’s one of the reasons why KU has struggled to get the program back on its feet—because the Big 12 is such a bear; there is no Vanderbilt, Boston College, or Colorado to pick up free wins…but come on! Oklahoma is the best team in the Big 12, I think we’d all agree. But after that…? KU has probably looked the second best, and they’ve even played a tougher schedule than OU! I was told that Houston was a really good team that’s gonna win 8-9 games? I also think WVU is a better team than people realize.

    The issue here, in my opinion, is this unwillingness to accept that KU is a good football team. I honestly think 8 wins is possible. I have no idea why in the world KU can’t beat Iowa State or TCU. I have no idea why KU can’t beat Texas, K-State, or Oklahoma St. And hey, who knows, maybe KU surprises us like they did last year against Oklahoma and Texas and picks one up on the road that nobody sees coming.

    There was an account on Twitter that caught a ton of flack for saying that Matt Tait’s writing about KU football is overly pessimistic and lazy. I not only agree with him, I also think that it applies to the media around KU football broadly. Even some fans! Matt Tait famously said “1 win is more likely than 4, and 2 wins is more likely than 3.” Dear god what a bad take. Basing your entire analysis of this team and this season on the fact that KU has been bad since 2010 is just downright bad. Trust what you see.

    I implore KU fans… “dare yourselves to be optimistic. Disenthrall yourselves from the notion that because KU has been bad over the last several years means they are bad now, and bound to return to their losing ways."

    I look forward to hearing the talking heads ask next Monday, for the third week in a row, “is it time to take this KU team seriously now?”

    KU beats Duke 45-17.



  • I’m with ya, @MoonwalkMafia. Great post, and welcome back!

    No one has come close to shutting down KU’s offense, so I’m leaning more toward 56-28. Should be a great crowd and the guys will be amped up.



  • @DanR I will be in attendance! Hope some of you guys are able to make it as well



  • @MoonwalkMafia I like your enthusiasm… I don’t see us beating Texas or Okie St. I hope I’m wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time.



  • Hre are just a few tid bits for the game. - -True Duke is 3-o - - some stat - -Duke 205 yds rushing per - - -255.55 passing per - Their offense total yards in these games, - - -506 yards against Temple - - 461 yards against whoever the hell they were and 420 yards against Northwestern. - - Duke ties for 1st in the Nation with 6 fumble recoveries. - -Duke hasn’t trailed in a game this year including a 45 -0 in 1st quarter - -& 110/43 overall

    Sounds decent right ? - - - -as the infamous Lee Corso likes to say - - -NOT SO FAST MY FRIENDS lol. -you have to take into account who they have played. - - Now I know it’s ESPN but this Temple team is a baad tam - -they are like # 7 in ESPN’S bottom ten of College Football - -& Northwestern is right there knocking on the door of the Bottom ten.

    I don’t think they have ran into a team with the talent that we have in a dual threat QB - -or ran into a stable of RB’S like we have yet this year. One guy I have been impressed with for the amount of touchs so far this year for me - - -Mr Morrison - -like how he runs – Love how our O-Line is playing - -the multiple Wr’s making catch’s

    Not trying to be overly confident - -don’t think we can take that approach after 3 games yet - but MAN I like how these guys show no quit and are playing well



  • Sure sounds like the Stadium gonna be ful - -hope we can make it Rowdy - - Make it loud - - -time to wave the wheat ya know like - - JUMPPIN - - -GEE - HOSSIE - - FATS - - LOUD



  • I’m cautiously optimistic about this game. We won’t be sneaking up on Duke and Duke will surely think this is a winnable game.

    I’d like to believe our offense and defense is better, but we have to come out and play to prove it.

    Let’s GO HAWKS!



  • I’m trying to keep expectations low. Don’t be greedy. 6 wins and this program is 2-3 years ahead of schedule imo.



  • @MoonwalkMafia

    Maybe some of us are still scarred by Nolan Cromwell’s injury in 1976 after KU rose to #8 in the nat’l polls at 4-1 and staggered to 7th place in the Big 8 at 6-5 overall.

    Having a QB like Daniels is wonderful and exciting, but a QB as your leading rusher can be a recipe for disaster if the season depends on him only.

    Fingers crossed!



  • @MoonwalkMafia love optimism!❤💙🏈🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾



  • Here’s what I’M enthusiastic about:

    All time record - KU 589-658-58 KSU 539-652-41

    KU vs KSU 65-49-5

    All the wildkitty hype over the last 20+ years and we’re STILL kicking their butts.



  • We’ll be taking AFH noise to the “booth”, 💙❤🌾🌾🌾it’s Duke! 👹



  • @nuleafjhawk Ya, if I was betting on the OSU or Texas game, I wouldn’t bet on KU to win. I’m just saying…hey, it could happen. Nobody expected us to beat TX on the road last year, and we played our best game of the season. Who knows…maybe?

    @mayjay I understand where you’re coming from. And if our RB room was as thin as it was last year, I’d share your concern. But Devin Neal is the real deal, as is Daniel Hishaw. JD is our leading rusher because he ran for 158 yards last week. Devin Neal could easily run for 200 yards against Duke. JD being able to run the ball is a nice element. But our offense isn’t dependent on him rushing for 150 yards a game. And man, our offensive line is opening holes that you could drive a semi-truck through.

    Some of the points I’m reading on this page are exactly what I’m talking about. Don’t get greedy? We’re not talking about betting our life savings on winning the conference. I’m just trying to get people to realize that KU is a good team and that there are probably more winnable games on the schedule than people realize. The Big 12 is not exactly lighting the world on fire, and I just don’t see KU starting the season 4-0, then going 1-7 or 2-6 the rest of the way. Stop thinking the wheels will come off based on the past.

    But that’s why they play the games, right? We’ll see what happens. This should be a fun season.



  • @MoonwalkMafia said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @nuleafjhawk Ya, if I was betting on the OSU or Texas game, I wouldn’t bet on KU to win. I’m just saying…hey, it could happen. Nobody expected us to beat TX on the road last year, and we played our best game of the season. Who knows…maybe?

    @mayjay I understand where you’re coming from. And if our RB room was as thin as it was last year, I’d share your concern. But Devin Neal is the real deal, as is Daniel Hishaw. JD is our leading rusher because he ran for 158 yards last week. Devin Neal could easily run for 200 yards against Duke. JD being able to run the ball is a nice element. But our offense isn’t dependent on him rushing for 150 yards a game. And man, our offensive line is opening holes that you could drive a semi-truck through.

    Some of the points I’m reading on this page are exactly what I’m talking about. Don’t get greedy? We’re not talking about betting our life savings on winning the conference. I’m just trying to get people to realize that KU is a good team and that there are probably more winnable games on the schedule than people realize. The Big 12 is not exactly lighting the world on fire, and I just don’t see KU starting the season 4-0, then going 1-7 or 2-6 the rest of the way. Stop thinking the wheels will come off based on the past.

    But that’s why they play the games, right? We’ll see what happens. This should be a fun season.

    KU’s offense is good enough to give them a chance basically every week. I could see a couple of blow outs happening within the OU, Baylor, and OSU trio of games because thise are the three best teams and KU isn’t going to have their A game every week and our defense isn’t that good yet and we’ve yet to see them play an elite offense. Teams can’t circle KU as basically an extra bye week anymore and this team has a genuine chance to get to 6-0 before they play a really good team this season.



  • Best news about KU is that they are not a particularly senior laden team. On the offensive 2 deep, LT Earl Bostwick, TE Mason Fairchild, LG Dominick Puni, and backup QB Jason Bean are the only guys that are seniors. Every guy in the RB room can come back.

    On defense, there’s more attrition, but with the transfer portal, there’s a chance to fill those holes quickly with guys that can contribute right away.

    Leipold may be on to something that can really grow as opposed to a one year wonder.



  • @justanotherfan and only Bostick is totally out of eligibility. The others have a Covid year left



  • @MoonwalkMafia I mean im hopeful they win 8 games.

    I just don’t think it is fair to the staff or players to heap those expectations on them now that they’ve shown a little success.

    Fans make jobs like this suck because expectations immediately turn into something they shouldn’t.

    I implore everyone to just enjoy the ride this season instead of throwing out some gaudy expectations after beating two non-p5 teams and one of the worst B12 teams.

    We can reset expectations in the off-season.



  • I haven’t been able to watch, but will tomorrow. Since the name Duke will be on the helmet I’m pumped. First time I’ve checked game time for a KU football game since the Mangino years.

    I watched the Houston game on youtube. I was unprepared for how dynamic a playmaker Daniels is. (too prove how tough it is to get into KU football I had to look his name up to write Daniels there, it’s not yet a name I know automatically.) I was simply amazed.

    Not sure how much of a comparison this is, but my first year on campus was 85. The team that year started well and had some talent. Willie Pless was on his way to a league tackle record. Mike Norseth was throwing for big yards. They were ranked and went to Auburn and lost narrowly. But the center (I can’t remember his name) got hurt and the season caved in drastically. @mayjay pointed out the impact of an injury during his years on campus even longer ago than when I was there!

    I have no clue how deep our roster is. The usual way of thinking is there’s not a great depth chart. But maybe Lance is changing that?

    Anyways, great post, I feel a little guilty for jumping on the bandwagon, even toying with doing a little road trip with my KU roomie to see the team if it stays interesting. Thanks for pumping us up. Lets keep this thing going!



  • @wissox said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    I haven’t been able to watch, but will tomorrow. Since the name Duke will be on the helmet I’m pumped. First time I’ve checked game time for a KU football game since the Mangino years.

    I watched the Houston game on youtube. I was unprepared for how dynamic a playmaker Daniels is. (too prove how tough it is to get into KU football I had to look his name up to write Daniels there, it’s not yet a name I know automatically.) I was simply amazed.

    Not sure how much of a comparison this is, but my first year on campus was 85. The team that year started well and had some talent. Willie Pless was on his way to a league tackle record. Mike Norseth was throwing for big yards. They were ranked and went to Auburn and lost narrowly. But the center (I can’t remember his name) got hurt and the season caved in drastically. @mayjay pointed out the impact of an injury during his years on campus even longer ago than when I was there!

    I have no clue how deep our roster is. The usual way of thinking is there’s not a great depth chart. But maybe Lance is changing that?

    Anyways, great post, I feel a little guilty for jumping on the bandwagon, even toying with doing a little road trip with my KU roomie to see the team if it stays interesting. Thanks for pumping us up. Lets keep this thing going!

    Actually Coach has gotten some depth added.Cloe to the full limit of Scholi’s and got 2 deep in multiple positions



  • @Kcmatt7 I genuinely don’t think anyone is putting unfair expectations on this team. I certainly don’t think the staff is. And the best thing about this team is, and I think they would tell you, “YES. We go into every game expecting to be in a position to win.”

    Some KU fans act like by being hopeful we’re dragging the team down. I would argue the exact opposite is true. Subdued expectations lead to apathy. I can tell you from everything I’ve read and heard (and I consume A LOT of KU football content), this team does not feel that way and neither should we.

    Hey, maybe we do go 3-6 in conference. Maybe we go 6-3. Let’s stop trying to put a number on it and enjoy the ride. KU IS GOOD.





  • I’m going to the TCU game with my boys and their fams. So excited! An xtra bonus 2 5th grade girls Vb games and a 3rd grade boys fb game! Lucky the chiefs play on Mon pm.



  • Positive sign in that D seems to be getting better, DC has been making good in game adjustments.



  • Anything new in fb recruiting? How are we looking locally with recruits



  • This team has depth. Remember, Daniels replaced Jason Bean as starter, and Bean is still on the team as his backup. Bean is a solid player that could still lead this team if Daniels were hurt (knock on wood). KU is deep at RB. We saw the depth in the defensive backfield on Saturday when both starting corners had to leave the game for a period of time.

    That’s one of the big differences between this team and teams we may have been hopeful about in the past. This KU team isn’t just a guy here or there. It’s not just Pooka Williams and hope. It’s a bunch of guys that are legitimate P5 talent that can help this team win.



  • @justanotherfan That’s a big key for me. We not only have some P5 level starters, but we have real depth.

    Jalon’s development is one of the more remarkable ones I’ve seen at the QB position. Great job by the staff and Jalon putting in the work.



  • @ReggieKansas '23 recruiting has been terrible locally. But I guess I’m not that shocked. KSU really cleaned up in '23 with the local guys. Landed 5 local 3* guys and then Avery Johnson. We have Zero.

    So, seems obvious the focus will have to be on the transfer portal again. Staff did a great job this year, and really think you’ll see them only improve in that area again. Much easier sell to transfers than a year ago too.

    Hopefully we make headway with the '24 class based on this season’s performance. I do think the staff knows how important it is to land local guys. And I do think they are trying to prioritize. But I don’t blame a guy for looking at KSU vs. KU and picking KSU based on recent success, NFL potential, facilities, and the BMOC factor.

    Vital that KU improves their facilities and dominates the KC Metro area recruiting as much as possible.



  • We’ll take 6-8 more HS kids in 2023 plus around 10 portal. I think there’s an outside chance to flip a couple KSU commits but I wouldn’t hold my breath.



  • @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    We’ll take 6-8 more HS kids in 2023 plus around 10 portal. I think there’s an outside chance to flip a couple KSU commits but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    I think Johnson is a kid that is looking a lot more seriously now then before



  • @jayballer67 said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    We’ll take 6-8 more HS kids in 2023 plus around 10 portal. I think there’s an outside chance to flip a couple KSU commits but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    I think Johnson is a kid that is looking a lot more seriously now then before

    Not at KU he isn’t



  • About an hour or so ago, I heard that Lance Leipold was going to be interviewed on an ESPN radio show today. If anyone has more info or a link to it, please share.



  • @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @jayballer67 said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    We’ll take 6-8 more HS kids in 2023 plus around 10 portal. I think there’s an outside chance to flip a couple KSU commits but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    I think Johnson is a kid that is looking a lot more seriously now then before

    Not at KU he isn’t

    hmmmm not what I heard - -but I’m not going to trip if he is - - he is - -if he is not - - we gonna be fine



  • @FarmerJayhawk is he the Baylor kid?



  • @Crimsonorblue22 the QB from Maize. He’s pretty solid to KSU. The only other school that could woo him right now is Notre Dame.



  • @FarmerJayhawk oh, Avery. He’s on our sports all the time. Isn’t there a lineman from Lawrence that signed to Baylor? He was at our game sat.



  • @Crimsonorblue22 Calvin Clements is committed there. He won’t budge unless Aranda leaves.



  • @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @Crimsonorblue22 the QB from Maize. He’s pretty solid to KSU. The only other school that could woo him right now is Notre Dame.

    Oh dam Farmer my bad. - -Goes to show, I was thinking of someone else. His dad played for KU I think they said he was looking at Ku alot more now. sorry my bad



  • @FarmerJayhawk Avery’s good buddy from derby switched from ksu to ND. His dad went to ksu



  • @jayballer67 said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @Crimsonorblue22 the QB from Maize. He’s pretty solid to KSU. The only other school that could woo him right now is Notre Dame.

    Oh dam Farmer my bad. - -Goes to show, I was thinking of someone else. His dad played for KU I think they said he was looking at Ku alot more now. sorry my bad

    John Randle! Now that’s a guy I’d keep an eye on.



  • @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @jayballer67 said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @Crimsonorblue22 the QB from Maize. He’s pretty solid to KSU. The only other school that could woo him right now is Notre Dame.

    Oh dam Farmer my bad. - -Goes to show, I was thinking of someone else. His dad played for KU I think they said he was looking at Ku alot more now. sorry my bad

    John Randle! Now that’s a guy I’d keep an eye on.

    Ya , Ya , Ya , Randle -that is who I was thinking of dammit. - -Gettin old lol. - he would be a great add



  • @jayballer67 said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @jayballer67 said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @Crimsonorblue22 the QB from Maize. He’s pretty solid to KSU. The only other school that could woo him right now is Notre Dame.

    Oh dam Farmer my bad. - -Goes to show, I was thinking of someone else. His dad played for KU I think they said he was looking at Ku alot more now. sorry my bad

    John Randle! Now that’s a guy I’d keep an eye on.

    Ya , Ya , Ya , Randle -that is who I was thinking of dammit. - -Gettin old lol. - he would be a great add

    You know your RB group is good when Randle would be 4th string



  • @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @jayballer67 said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @jayballer67 said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @FarmerJayhawk said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:

    @Crimsonorblue22 the QB from Maize. He’s pretty solid to KSU. The only other school that could woo him right now is Notre Dame.

    Oh dam Farmer my bad. - -Goes to show, I was thinking of someone else. His dad played for KU I think they said he was looking at Ku alot more now. sorry my bad

    John Randle! Now that’s a guy I’d keep an eye on.

    Ya , Ya , Ya , Randle -that is who I was thinking of dammit. - -Gettin old lol. - he would be a great add

    You know your RB group is good when Randle would be 4th string

    lol ya thats very true



  • @FarmerJayhawk Honestly my first thought is can he catch? lol.

    Would love to see that track speed, long stride and jumping ability on the outside… Plus he runs REALLY tall for a RB at the P5 level. Much more of a run by you than a run over you type of dude.



  • @FarmerJayhawk is his dad the one that got in trouble, from wichita?


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