2021 Transfer Talk/List
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@BShark Curry seems like he could use a redshirt… Depends on who we land if Harris leaves
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I’ll be pretty bummed if Harris leaves, which isn’t a done deal by any stretch. I see some Aaron Miles in his game and he turned out pretty solid. I’d rather have Harris long term than Ochai, who if he comes back it’s only for a year. He won’t take the extra covid season.
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Harris anticipates well on D too, that’s where I can see some fun transition w/those guards on the floor, granted they’re short.
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BShark Think I got it now - - back to someone transferring out. - - So I go back to my 1st thought and like most others here NOT crazy about that if it happens.
Dejuan is very solid already on defense - -quick. - - - like I said yesterday when listening to the local sports talk show here in Topeka and they were talking to Jesse Newell who covers KU , and he was saying they think people are kind of overlooking his shooting. He really didn’t take that many shots but when he did was pretty decent. Think if not already will become a fan favorite. - It’s just comes down to numbers , Jesse said if Martin didn’t stick - - - - Harris would be your starting point guard. got the experience , been through the wars would start over Pettiford. - -I could live with that , BUT I think Martin sticks , would be fine.
Use Martin as your starting PG & then use Harris as his backup. - - Let Pettiford Redshirt along with KJ & Clemence. - - Or let Harris and Pettiford get after it just let it be worked out on the floor. - Hate to see him leave IF indeed it turns out to be the case
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Its simple, Pettiford > Harris. This doesn’t feel like HCBS initiating it though, more likely Harris approached him about it and had a talk about the future. I’m sure the official stance is that there will be a competition for the playing time, etc., but based on the game footage I’ve seen, I’m very convinced that Pettiford is the future starting PG for KU. After these last few signings it may not be next year but he won’t be redshirted, he’ll get a lot of run to get him ready to take the keys the year after.
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@RockkChalkk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Its simple, Pettiford > Harris. This doesn’t feel like HCBS initiating it though, more likely Harris approached him about it and had a talk about the future. I’m sure the official stance is that there will be a competition for the playing time, etc., but based on the game footage I’ve seen, I’m very convinced that Pettiford is the future starting PG for KU. After these last few signings it may not be next year but he won’t be redshirted, he’ll get a lot of run to get him ready to take the keys the year after.
The ONE big thing about this though competition in practice doesn’t translate to game time play. - Experience speaks volumes, which with us seeing a lot of these experienced players transferring in here, not only here but all across the nation. Very Very true Pettiford better player - BUT Pettiford is also in-experienced , where Harris is experienced. Done been down that road. For this Season if Remy sticks I am fully convinced Remy is for sure the starting PG , but I would be willing to bet if Dejaun sticks he will be getting the better mop up/relief minutes for Remy. Pettiford needs time to grow into P-5 ball. Seen it to many times where kids come in with better reputation possibly higher rated then others - -we know how that goes - -now for 2022 ya after having that year to adjust I could very easily see Pettiford starting but as for just walking right in and getting major minutes and over taking Harris at this point - umm don’t think thats gonna happen
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@approxinfinity said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
https://twitter.com/Mitchlightfoot/status/1395203201603932162?s=19 lol
LMAO - - - score - - that’s pretty good made me laugh lol - - The kid obviously far from the best on this team but you know what ? - - This kid gives everything he has got always trying his best and one of the things I love the most about Mitch? - - He LOVES KU - -I mean this kid is KU through and through. Who would of ever thought he would be one of the better shot blockers on the team , I mean sure very true he gets beat on defense quite often BUT the kid recovers he may gete beat on the drive - - he manages to recover and at least have a shot to fix that and block the shot from behind. – He’ll take that charge - - he gets dirty gets on the floor after loose balls - - whatever it takes. - -These are the type of kids I love playing , guys that genuinely love the School - -Always a Jayhawk MITCH.
I know it’s crazy but when I seen the twitter you posted - -had a flash thought holy Crap it’s Mitch saying he had decided to move on with his personal life lmao - - I know , I know whaaaaa . but I did lol
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@RockkChalkk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Its simple, Pettiford > Harris. This doesn’t feel like HCBS initiating it though, more likely Harris approached him about it and had a talk about the future. I’m sure the official stance is that there will be a competition for the playing time, etc., but based on the game footage I’ve seen, I’m very convinced that Pettiford is the future starting PG for KU. After these last few signings it may not be next year but he won’t be redshirted, he’ll get a lot of run to get him ready to take the keys the year after.
Self hasn’t used the words point guard to describe Pettiford so I don’t think Self views him as a lead guard at this point. Self has described Pettiford as a combo guard which in Self speak means Pettiford is a 2 and will mostly be off the ball this year. In Self’s eyes, Pettiford and Harris are not in competition with one another, Pettiford is competing Braun, Yesufu, and JCL for minutes because those three guys can play the 2 spot and in Yesufu’s case, probably the starter at the 2 spot next season.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@RockkChalkk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Its simple, Pettiford > Harris. This doesn’t feel like HCBS initiating it though, more likely Harris approached him about it and had a talk about the future. I’m sure the official stance is that there will be a competition for the playing time, etc., but based on the game footage I’ve seen, I’m very convinced that Pettiford is the future starting PG for KU. After these last few signings it may not be next year but he won’t be redshirted, he’ll get a lot of run to get him ready to take the keys the year after.
Self hasn’t used the words point guard to describe Pettiford so I don’t think Self views him as a lead guard at this point. Self has described Pettiford as a combo guard which in Self speak means Pettiford is a 2 and will mostly be off the ball this year. In Self’s eyes, Pettiford and Harris are not in competition with one another, Pettiford is competing Braun, Yesufu, and JCL for minutes because those three guys can play the 2 spot and in Yesufu’s case, probably the starter at the 2 spot next season.
As you listed Braun , Yesufu , & JCL - is just another reason I feel would be a good reason for Pettiford to redshirt , adjust/ grow into the P-5 level ball give some time to learn -develop more. I think he will be solid but this coming season we already have Depth at that spot & again think that spot is going to be taken for starting minutes anyways by Yesufu
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by taking all these transfers i think Self is telling Harris he needs to transfer. He might be telling Braun the same thing. you can’t fill a 13 man roster with 13 kids who all think and probably are good enough to play D1 bball. in the past most programs would give scholarships to 2-3 kids who they knew were more “glue” and “program” type kids who would tolerate sitting on the bench. Self is not giving scholarships to any kids like that. the last guy on the KU bench could be a starter at many P5 programs. this is going to be worse than the NBA. the top college programs are going to have different players every year.
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@bennie said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
by taking all these transfers i think Self is telling Harris he needs to transfer. He might be telling Braun the same thing. you can’t fill a 13 man roster with 13 kids who all think and probably are good enough to play D1 bball. in the past most programs would give scholarships to 2-3 kids who they knew were more “glue” and “program” type kids who would tolerate sitting on the bench. Self is not giving scholarships to any kids like that. the last guy on the KU bench could be a starter at many P5 programs. this is going to be worse than the NBA. the top college programs are going to have different players every year.
Braun Is not going to transfer He’s a Kansas kid hes not going nowhere
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@bennie said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
by taking all these transfers i think Self is telling Harris he needs to transfer. He might be telling Braun the same thing. you can’t fill a 13 man roster with 13 kids who all think and probably are good enough to play D1 bball. in the past most programs would give scholarships to 2-3 kids who they knew were more “glue” and “program” type kids who would tolerate sitting on the bench. Self is not giving scholarships to any kids like that. the last guy on the KU bench could be a starter at many P5 programs. this is going to be worse than the NBA. the top college programs are going to have different players every year.
I don’t agree with this take at all. Three of four transfers Self brought in are one year players to fill in the gaps on the roster until the freshmen are ready next season.
It’s not hard at all to see how Self envisions this roster developing long term with an eventual starting line up a couple of years from now consisting of some combination of Harris, Pettiford, and Cuffe in the back court and some combination of Clemence, Curry, and Adams in the front court with Clemence and Adams after Curry moves on. The only spot Self is missing in the long term on this roster is a wing which has already been addressed in the 2022 class with Gradey Dick.
Bill Self is chasing a national title this season before the roster takes a step back next season and this team as constructed appears talented enough to do so as KU should have 6 upper classmen in the rotation next season including 4 seniors. Self turned one the least experienced rosters last season into one of the most experienced this season.
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@JAYHAWKFAN214 I don’t want him to, but I’m not so sure. Doesn’t his brother play at Mizzou? I think he’s still there, right? And didn’t one of his parents go there too? I’m a Braun fan and don’t him to go anywhere, just saying.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 don’t agree with all of what you posted, but do most of it.
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@Marco transferred
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@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@JAYHAWKFAN214 I don’t want him to, but I’m not so sure. Doesn’t his brother play at Mizzou? I think he’s still there, right? And didn’t one of his parents go there too? I’m a Braun fan and don’t him to go anywhere, just saying. Yes his brother did play at Missouri but hes not there he transferred out of Missouri
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@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@JAYHAWKFAN214 I don’t want him to, but I’m not so sure. Doesn’t his brother play at Mizzou? I think he’s still there, right? And didn’t one of his parents go there too? I’m a Braun fan and don’t him to go anywhere, just saying.
Parker transferred to UC Santa Clara.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@JAYHAWKFAN214 I don’t want him to, but I’m not so sure. Doesn’t his brother play at Mizzou? I think he’s still there, right? And didn’t one of his parents go there too? I’m a Braun fan and don’t him to go anywhere, just saying.
Parker transferred to UC Santa Clara.
I’m right there with you on that. I don’t want Braun going anywhere either. - -Seemed like he had decent Fr year - -struggled last yr , lost confidence in his shot. - -I can’t count how many times he turned down wide open 3’s towards the end he wasn’t even looking for his shot at al. I look for him to rebound decently and play well. I think probably like others sem to think - -he will be coming off the bench , just hope he can accept his role and not get down on him self, but just don’t want him to transfer out.
However now with this transfer portol thing and making things so easy, gonna be a lot of transfers yr after yr. Just hoping he isn’t one of them.
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@JAYHAWKFAN214 I don’t want him to, but I’m not so sure. Doesn’t his brother play at Mizzou? I think he’s still there, right? And didn’t one of his parents go there too? I’m a Braun fan and don’t him to go anywhere, just saying.
Parker transferred to UC Santa Clara.
I’m right there with you on that. I don’t want Braun going anywhere either. - -Seemed like he had decent Fr year - -struggled last yr , lost confidence in his shot. - -I can’t count how many times he turned down wide open 3’s towards the end he wasn’t even looking for his shot at al. I look for him to rebound decently and play well. I think probably like others sem to think - -he will be coming off the bench , just hope he can accept his role and not get down on him self, but just don’t want him to transfer out.
However now with this transfer portol thing and making things so easy, gonna be a lot of transfers yr after yr. Just hoping he isn’t one of them.
The transfer market will not be like this every year because players can only transfer once without having to sit out. All of these kids transferring this year can’t do it again unless it’s as a grad transfer without sitting out. Expect the transfer rate to be closer to 1,000 most years going forward.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@JAYHAWKFAN214 I don’t want him to, but I’m not so sure. Doesn’t his brother play at Mizzou? I think he’s still there, right? And didn’t one of his parents go there too? I’m a Braun fan and don’t him to go anywhere, just saying.
Parker transferred to UC Santa Clara.
I’m right there with you on that. I don’t want Braun going anywhere either. - -Seemed like he had decent Fr year - -struggled last yr , lost confidence in his shot. - -I can’t count how many times he turned down wide open 3’s towards the end he wasn’t even looking for his shot at al. I look for him to rebound decently and play well. I think probably like others sem to think - -he will be coming off the bench , just hope he can accept his role and not get down on him self, but just don’t want him to transfer out.
However now with this transfer portol thing and making things so easy, gonna be a lot of transfers yr after yr. Just hoping he isn’t one of them.
The transfer market will not be like this every year because players can only transfer once without having to sit out. All of these kids transferring this year can’t do it again unless it’s as a grad transfer without sitting out. Expect the transfer rate to be closer to 1,000 most years going forward.
The cycle will still continue. Understand that the kids that transfer However you have a whole new group of 1st time transfers just like this year this year can’t do it again without sitting out. This whole transfer portol thing is just insane
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@JAYHAWKFAN214 I don’t want him to, but I’m not so sure. Doesn’t his brother play at Mizzou? I think he’s still there, right? And didn’t one of his parents go there too? I’m a Braun fan and don’t him to go anywhere, just saying.
Parker transferred to UC Santa Clara.
I’m right there with you on that. I don’t want Braun going anywhere either. - -Seemed like he had decent Fr year - -struggled last yr , lost confidence in his shot. - -I can’t count how many times he turned down wide open 3’s towards the end he wasn’t even looking for his shot at al. I look for him to rebound decently and play well. I think probably like others sem to think - -he will be coming off the bench , just hope he can accept his role and not get down on him self, but just don’t want him to transfer out.
However now with this transfer portol thing and making things so easy, gonna be a lot of transfers yr after yr. Just hoping he isn’t one of them.
The transfer market will not be like this every year because players can only transfer once without having to sit out. All of these kids transferring this year can’t do it again unless it’s as a grad transfer without sitting out. Expect the transfer rate to be closer to 1,000 most years going forward.
The cycle will still continue. Understand that the kids that transfer However you have a whole new group of 1st time transfers just like this year this year can’t do it again without sitting out. This whole transfer portol thing is just insane
A 1,000 kids is a lot more than pre pandemic transfer rates which was about 6-700 kids per. We will not see 1,600 kids every year. Any time you see a major rule change such as this, there will always a spike of people taking advantage immediately and numbers will level off going forward.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Who?
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@Marco Christians Braun’s brother, Parker.
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Kevin Samuel from TCU in the portal. If a spot comes open, would take.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Kevin Samuel from TCU in the portal. If a spot comes open, would take.
That would help our back-up 5 spot tremendously.
That said, I believe the roster is just about set based on what I’ve been hearing. Like I mentioned in another thread I would expect some small ball.
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Kevin Samuel from TCU in the portal. If a spot comes open, would take.
That would help our back-up 5 spot tremendously.
That said, I believe the roster is just about set based on what I’ve been hearing. Like I mentioned in another thread I would expect some small ball.
Boom … I expect alot of small ball too. That being said then, how many minutes do you think Dave will get?
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As many as he can play, he is our most important player because the options behind him are not nearly as good.
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Jordan Brown ended up at Louisiana.
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Jordan Brown ended up at Louisiana.
GEAUX CAJUNS. Love that school
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Silvio DeSousa put his name into the transfer portal today. He’ll be a grad transfer wherever he ends up, if anywhere. His trial is supposed to start in early August.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Wow… Good luck there, huh?
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I wish Silvio well. People make big mistakes. Still young. Can grow up.
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Bryson Williams, that dude from UTEP that lit us up at the end of the season has transferred to Texas Tech. Guess he really wanted to play against us again. SMH
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Texas still bag dropping landing the best transfer left on the market in forward Tre Mitchell.
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Texas is going to be a force now.
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Hard to be mad not landing him when we dropped bags for Remy and Yesufu.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Hard to be mad not landing him when we dropped bags for Remy and Yesufu.
Only so much budget, this is true. Texas must be sinking a lot of money into hoops right now.
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Kcmatt7 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Hard to be mad not landing him when we dropped bags for Remy and Yesufu.
Only so much budget, this is true. Texas must be sinking a lot of money into hoops right now.
no matter how much money they drop - - gonna take time to get those fans committed to Basketball. Gonna have to be proven for a couple of years That arena is always about half full for basketball unless a really special occasion. they have to be proven they have something to get excited about - - - Football still and will run rampid for sometime
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Kcmatt7 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Hard to be mad not landing him when we dropped bags for Remy and Yesufu.
Only so much budget, this is true. Texas must be sinking a lot of money into hoops right now.
I would consider Chris Beard a top 10 coach and said as soon as he was hired that Texas would return to their early to mid 2000’s form when they were a consistent top 10 team and KU-Texas games were appointment viewing.
Nike is going to begin funneling a lot of elite level talent to Austin because of Beard and the UT brand. Kansas, Baylor, and Texas will all be top tier programs and make each other better prepared for runs in March/April.
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@BShark I’m sure that Beard took that job with the understanding he would be give the “resources” to win.
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@jayballer67 that Beard is going to make them a national force, maybe not this year but soon, there is no doubt. That dude can flat out coach.
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@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@jayballer67 that Beard is going to make them a national force, maybe not this year but soon, there is no doubt. That dude can flat out coach.
Agree , however with Texas being that " FOOTBALL school " that Texas is like you say the fans are Football fans, it’s going to take consistency of at least 3-4 years of hard core beat down Ball for they become 100 % totally convinced. It’s hard for Football Schools traditionally Football it’s hard to convince them that they can also have a really good Basketball. After 3-4 yrs then ya the place will fill to capicity until then i’s going to be a slow trend - -Be Careful don’t stumble , you stumble watch how fast they fly right back out. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer67 No doubt, a football school. But he’ll have them in the tournament this year, and he’ll all but own Texas high school basketball talent, which is another reason why he poached Snacks who has been recruiting Texas pretty well. And unlike some, I realize that Texas does have players. Is it Cali, New York, Illinois or Florida? No, but there is talent there. And he’ll get out of state talent too. Look at what he did at Texas Tech.
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@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@jayballer67 No doubt, a football school. But he’ll have them in the tournament this year, and he’ll all but own Texas high school basketball talent, which is why he poached Snacks. And unlike some, I realize that Texas does have players. Is it Cali, New York, Illinois or Florida? No, but there is talent there. And he’ll get out of state talent too. Look at what he did at Texas Tech.
Oh I agree Texas is loaded with talent , and I’m not saying he won’t bring them to a different level - -BUT it going to take time and it’s going to take convincing not just 1 year or 2 years.
Also can’t go quite as far as you on him owning the state of Texas for recruiting - -True other blue bloods well wait Ain’t no way I’m going to call Texas a blue blood because of Beard BUT True blue bloods will still if the talent is ther DUKE - -KENTUCKY - - -KU- - NORTH CAROLINA - GONZAGA - - MICHIGAN STATE - they still coming and they will STILL get their fair share of that Texas Talent , not willing to go there and say he will OWN the Texas Talent sorry - -these other blue bloods have gotten themselves established there to solid for that to happen
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@jayballer67 no, he won’t get them all, too many. But look at what Sampson has done at Houston.
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Marcus Carr withdrew from the draft. Someone is going to get a heck of a PG.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Marcus Carr withdrew from the draft. Someone is going to get a heck of a PG.
I’m in the dark. Who is Marcus Carr
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Marcus Carr withdrew from the draft. Someone is going to get a heck of a PG.
I’m in the dark. Who is Marcus Carr
Minnesota
