The portal.
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synopsis why we need Williams: https://www.si.com/college/kansas/basketball/big-12-transfer-darrion-williams-returning-to-college-will-kansas-jayhawks-land-him
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@drgnslayr said in The portal.:
So Williams left town without signing…. Aargh!
Bidding war with NC State. We need a stronger ass offer than them.
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@ImmunoHawk Same in Chicago. Been awful, but I saw International Falls was 95 the other day! I have a daughter in Rochester by the way.
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Christ almighty. We had better have the funds to outbid NC State
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@wissox @ImmunoHawk Same here about not being able to sit outside!
Of course, a TEEENSY bit different… 94 here in Hilton Head, SC, this week.
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@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
Christ almighty. We had better have the funds to outbid NC State
Will Wade as the new coach and they were trying to flip Peterson. They got some money so hopefully KU has enough to match because Williams is enough to make KU into a legit Big 12 contender and potentially more than that.
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We might be a pretty average team next year man if we don’t find a considerable upgrade at the 3…
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Well where i live we have had 24 straight weekends or rain or snow. Haven’t had a dry recorded weekend since November. Its frustrating beyond words really. We have had at least a full week of weather in the 50’s and today low 40s with no end in sight until Monday. Had to turn on the heat again. My son last night had a baseball game in 47 degree weather with 15-20 mph wind gusts…
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Agreed, safe money is still on Houston as the more proven commodity to win the league, but add Williams and the potential is there for this KU team to be better.
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Dang! Williams to NC state
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20-11 type of team. Just enjoy the Peterson highlights
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Lol
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@TYOHawk St. John’s kid?
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Eff
Hope they got some other guys in the pipeline.
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Dame Sarr and Darrion Williams bad news on the same day! Hosed.
We short on cash?
I’m gonna take some joy from the Vaughn coaching news as long as i can.
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Starting to look like we have a reality hitting that’s uncomfortable
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This is kind of depressing, but it is just sports. I mean weather. I mean both, sports and weather depressing at the same time is too much.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Starting to look like we have a reality hitting that’s uncomfortable
I mean, we signed three guys right out of the gate. That was positive. They seem like good contributors, but maybe not superstars. Who knows how much KU spent. DP and Flory I assume were high dollar.
We don’t really know how Self views them. Starters? Bench guys?
Think about some of the teams we lost to last season. Probably not rosters of well known names with big NIL salaries.
My point? Not really worried. Gems still available.
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Web writing gets sadder by the day…
Darrion Williams, a former star for the Texas Tech Red Raiders, had reportedly narrowed down the search for his next program to the Kansas State Jayhawks and the NC State Wolfpack. Apparently, Self’s sales pitch wasn’t good enough to bring Williams to Lawrence.
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@rockchalkjayhawk well, I wouldn’t want to play for them either
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@rockchalkjayhawk Who are the available gems???
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All 3 transfers are in line to start.
Flory and DP take up a significant portion of NIL.
We clearly are not a top dog NIL team this year. Proof’s in the pudding with Sarr and Williams among others.
We are short a starter, a backup big at minimum.
IMO this offseason has been frustrating and disappointing.
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@DCHawker said in The portal.:
@rockchalkjayhawk Who are the available gems???
I’m sure somebody in here would fit the bill.
https://247sports.com/season/2025-basketball/transferportaltop/?status=available
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Word on the street is that we are pining for a couple of Croatians.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
All 3 transfers are in line to start.
Flory and DP take up a significant portion of NIL.
We clearly are not a top dog NIL team this year. Proof’s in the pudding with Sarr and Williams among others.
We are short a starter, a backup big at minimum.
IMO this offseason has been frustrating and disappointing.
Yea, sure feels that way. But, we still signed the No. 1-ish recruit, and resigned Flory. I guess my hope is that with a thousand guys still in the portal, somebody should be a fit.
The opposing theory is that Kansas is losing its luster. That’s hard to stomach after decades of success.
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I like the 3 guys we got but I don’t see any of them being DP’s #2 and that’s what we are missing to really compete next year. Williams is a potential All-American candidate next year, Sarr has an extremely high ceiling and is a draft prospect. You’re almost assuredly getting a less talented player with what’s left which is a hard pill to swallow.
I’m not going to say we can’t find someone of that caliber, but the pool is very shallow for options now. The 3 transfers are not really NBA prospects and I’m not sure what else is out there that has that kind of ceiling. I know they are looking at the international pool of players and perhaps that’s the avenue they need to push on now that they missed on their top 2 targets.
There are some issues behind the scenes that seem to have hit full circle this offseason.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in The portal.:
@DCHawker said in The portal.:
@rockchalkjayhawk Who are the available gems???
I’m sure somebody in here would fit the bill.
https://247sports.com/season/2025-basketball/transferportaltop/?status=available
Uh - only 5 of the top 150 are uncommitted - Luis, Watkins, and Claude, all of whom would be expensive and have issues, and two former Jayhawks. Unless there is someone hanging out overseas, we simply don’t have a starting caliber roster right now… DP, Flory, White, Council and Dawson/Jackson? I expect those guys can defend the perimeter and switches, but no length and size. No depth. When Flory gets in foul trouble, which he will, what then? Tiller? Is White really a 4? Who subs at that slot?
As I noted earlier in this thread, while almost everyone else was locking up a starting roster early, we were putting all our eggs in a small, post-tryout basket…
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@rockchalkjayhawk i think its a lot of things, no binary answer. I would be good with fielding a solid but not spectacular roster with a couple stars. We have had success in the past with lean rosters.
What i dont want is for us to grab guys expected to contribute that repeatedly fall on their face despite getting minutes. So picking prudently for additional role players is still of paramount importance.
Work ethic. Work ethic. Work ethic.
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@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
@rockchalkjayhawk i think its a lot of things, no binary answer. I would be good with fielding a solid but not spectacular roster with a couple stars. We have had success in the past with lean rosters.
What i dont want is for us to grab guys expected to contribute that repeatedly fall on their face despite getting minutes. So picking prudently for additional role players is still of paramount importance.
Work ethic. Work ethic. Work ethic.
That’s kinda the thing, right? Is Self piecing together a roster of maybe lesser-named players, but players he thinks will fit better and make KU a better team than last year? He didn’t hit it out of the park with the bigger names we had last year.
100% agree we still need multiple players to make this roster work. So until we see the complete roster, i’m just doing my best to keep my head above the fray.
Who knows, maybe he’s got a grand plan we’re not seeing
ha
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
There are some issues behind the scenes that seem to have hit full circle this offseason.
i was hoping with the massive roster purge that we could put the “issues behind the scenes” actually behind us this offseason. Maybe not yet? what now??
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@DCHawker said in The portal.:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in The portal.:
@DCHawker said in The portal.:
@rockchalkjayhawk Who are the available gems???
I’m sure somebody in here would fit the bill.
https://247sports.com/season/2025-basketball/transferportaltop/?status=available
Uh - only 5 of the top 150 are uncommitted - Luis, Watkins, and Claude, all of whom would be expensive and who have issues, and two former Jayhawks. Unless there is someone hanging out overseas, we simply don’t have a starting caliber roster right now… DP, Flory, White, Council and Dawson/Jackson? I expect those guys can defend the perimeter and switches, but no length and size. No depth. When Flory gets in foul trouble, which he will, what then? Tiller? Is White really a 4? Who subs at that slot?
As I noted earlier in this thread, while almost everyone else was locking up a starting roster early, we were putting all our eggs in a small, post-tryout basket…
yea, no argument from me. Just hoping Self has a plan.
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@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
I like the 3 guys we got but I don’t see any of them being DP’s #2 and that’s what we are missing to really compete next year. Williams is a potential All-American candidate next year, Sarr has an extremely high ceiling and is a draft prospect. You’re almost assuredly getting a less talented player with what’s left which is a hard pill to swallow.
I’m not going to say we can’t find someone of that caliber, but the pool is very shallow for options now. The 3 transfers are not really NBA prospects and I’m not sure what else is out there that has that kind of ceiling. I know they are looking at the international pool of players and perhaps that’s the avenue they need to push on now that they missed on their top 2 targets.
There are some issues behind the scenes that seem to have hit full circle this offseason.
OH I think those issues you were referring to cost us more then people even know , I think we have lost some of the luster , were not that bright new penny anymore.
It’s prety much you have the NIL money to toss around then it’s ll gravy----if not you best find some , and find some soon. It’s just a meat market and one huge bidding war. Plus like w said I think the internal issues have come and kicked us right square in the you know what
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I’m thinking we need to go after endowment contributors to invest in NIL. Does this make sense? NIL is still relatively new… but I’m thinking KU alumni are happy to divide their endowment contributions to split into education and sports.
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And who do we have building NIL private deals? Another part of the job of a GM?
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Maybe Self could host dinners for crypto purchasers.
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Heard today that Self is meeting some resistance, combination of things-- like we just don’t have that much money left----Williams and /Sar both were in the three Millon plus rang, just flat got outbid by Wade and /NC State, w were running 300- - -500 thousand short on these.
Hear trying to hit out same donors running into losing fatigue, kinda like look you came last yr for Griffen and Storr and didn’t produce.-- Now your going to have to pay for your mistakes by winning more and us paying less, – RERSULTS boys and girls these big time donors are wanting to see results for all the money they are investing.-- - Then you got the timing of these donors being hit up for donations for the foot ball Stadium , just bad timing. A lot to is the School has lost some it’s luster that it use to have, were in a hard spot right no
STILL needing like three players a back up big, and at least a legit wing
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Adidas flagship institution huh? Pony up big boys. Nike doesn’t seem to have a cash flow issue when it comes to directing recruits.
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@dylans said in The portal.:
Adidas flagship institution huh? Pony up big boys. Nike doesn’t seem to have a cash flow issue when it comes to directing recruits.
NC State is also Adidas.
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@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
Heard today that Self is meeting some resistance, combination of things-- like we just don’t have that much money left----Williams and /Sar both were in the three Millon plus rang, just flat got outbid by Wade and /NC State, w were running 300- - -500 thousand short on these.
Hear trying to hit out same donors running into losing fatigue, kinda like look you came last yr for Griffen and Storr and didn’t produce.-- Now your going to have to pay for your mistakes by winning more and us paying less, – RERSULTS boys and girls these big time donors are wanting to see results for all the money they are investing.-- - Then you got the timing of these donors being hit up for donations for the foot ball Stadium , just bad timing. A lot to is the School has lost some it’s luster that it use to have, were in a hard spot right no
STILL needing like three players a back up big, and at least a legit wing
Self has no one to blame but himself.
