What does “faith in Bill” mean?
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@kuballin10 D2 and Silvio are the worst recruiting decisions Self has ever made imo. I’d prob be crying at this point if Self announced his retirement, tears of joy of course. I’m still super worried Peterson is going to jump ship and if that happens it’s the death of Kansas basketball as we know it. We won’t be even remotely competitive in the conference without him.
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lol
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@BShark wait which part?
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Sorry… D2 = ?
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@bskeet said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
Sorry… D2 = ?
Our Division 2 talent all everything PG Juan Harris
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thx.
He really disappeared this year. There were like 7 minutes in the second half where he looked like his old self-- driving, hitting layups, making plays…
Really an enigma why he wasn’t like that more often this year. At times I wondered if there was something behind the scenes because he wasn’t himself.
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@approxinfinity said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@BShark wait which part?
Made the mistake of unblocking someone for a moment. Same drivel.
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I would agree that next year actually is important to see if Bill can have success in this era. Some reasons to believe he turned over a new leaf with regards to player handling in the middle of this season but old habits die hard.
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@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
I would agree that next year actually is important to see if Bill can have success in this era. Some reasons to believe he turned over a new leaf with regards to player handling in the middle of this season but old habits die hard.
Next season is the most important Basketball in the history of Kansas.
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@kjayhawks said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
I would agree that next year actually is important to see if Bill can have success in this era. Some reasons to believe he turned over a new leaf with regards to player handling in the middle of this season but old habits die hard.
Next season is the most important Basketball in the history of Kansas.
lol… sounds like political hyperbole!
Hard to imagine any season being more important than season 1 when Naismith established his game as a sport here.
I do like the idea of trying to rank the most important seasons in KU history. Would be a very interesting exercise. (maybe a future idea for a thread)
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@bskeet they make fun of our pt guard Juan, call him a div. 2 pt guard.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@bskeet they make fun of our pt guard Juan, call him a div. 2 pt guard.
Despite him being all-conference and not every PG received that honor so not the worst PG in the league despite what some will claim.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 when was Juan named all conference? He was on the all defensive team but don’t see him as even as an honorable mention PG
Notice Cryer was all B12 first team for the second straight year and was second team all American. So glad Juan is so much better than him
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@kjayhawks you missed it!
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@Crimsonorblue22 google says he was all defensive team 3 times and defensive POY. Doesn’t mater easily the worst PG in the self era in super happy to never watch him play again
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I still have faith in Bill. Going to zone against Ark almost won him the game. I think Harris, Hunter, and KJ leaving will unlock some more more clarity for him. The ultimate team killer these last 5 years was Harris and Bill sticking with him as long as he did. He killed any chances the team had to go far and he seemed to get worse every year. He was very strong on defense early in his career and that even went downhill. He brought nothing to the table and took dimensions away from a team that is normally dynamic. Bad shooter, bad passer, doesn’t value the ball, doesn’t lead vocally, average at dribble penetration. I’m so happy to see him gone. What bothers me the most are the small things, how come we don’t have real leaders on the team? Think back to Devonte Graham. He would be pulling the team together on the floor for quick huddles, arms around each other, etc. Positive reinforcement, etc. These guys just play with emotionless faces which is a reflection of Harris’ demeanor whether they are up 30 or down 30, its the same. As PG and senior, he sets the tone and it has been horrible for so long.
Another thing that I think reflects on Bill is the team doesn’t run anymore. They used to be able to run fast break over and over and utilize elite athleticism and beat other teams down the court for layups. If that happens 5-6 times per game (which is usually on the low end) thats 10-12 easy points of an advantage over the other team. Any missed shot was a fast break, even after some makes. With Harris running the show it was always a slow dribble up the court and start running the most vanilla offense I can recall seeing. There are very few run plays. And when they do, they run them slow and with bad passes. Its terrible. PG needs to set the example for everyone else and his example has led to this steady decline. Hopefully we get back to real KU basketball starting next year with guys in the mold of Dotson, Frank, Graham, etc. Harris era has been a disaster.
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@RockkChalkk I do fully believe if KJ doesn’t get hurt KU wins. That sucked the life out of the team.
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@RockkChalkk do you watch all the games?
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I really think everything depends on Elmarko. He is the guy who can have the most positive influence on the team if he is a vocal leader and is healthy. If not, I am not expecting a high ceiling next year.
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@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@RockkChalkk I do fully believe if KJ doesn’t get hurt KU wins. That sucked the life out of the team.
The life that Hunter hadn’t already stolen. His plodding pace was brutal.
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@kjayhawks said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@Texas-Hawk-10 when was Juan named all conference? He was on the all defensive team but don’t see him as even as an honorable mention PG
Then you’re either blind or illiterate. Straight from the Big 12’s website:
Honorable Mention: Arizona: Tobe Awaka, Henri Veesaar; Baylor: Robert Wright; BYU: Egor Demin; UCF: Darius Johnson; Cincinnati: Jizzle James; Colorado: Julian Hammond III; Houston: Emanuel Sharp; Kansas: Dajuan Harris Jr.; Kansas State: David N’Guessan; Oklahoma State: Bryce Thompson; TCU: Noah Reynolds, Ernest Udeh Jr.; Utah: Gabe Madsen
Harris was also honorable mention in 2022-23 and 2023-24 as well. So apparently the people that watch and cover the Big 12 for a living disagree with you about Harris not being good enough to start anywhere else in the league.
Notice Cryer was all B12 first team for the second straight year and was second team all American. So glad Juan is so much better than him
Not this dead horse again. At what point will you accept that Dejuan Harris and LJ Cryer play different positions and Harris has had absolutely nothing to do with Cryer never coming to Kansas. This horse has been beaten dead, buried, dug up, beaten again, buried again, but apparently needs to dug up and beaten again. So for the eleventy millionth time:
Harris and Cryer were different recruiting classes. Harris was 2019 and Cryer was 2020. Harris was a higher rated recruit than Cryer out of high school. Harris was 94th in the 2019 247 Composite rankings and Cryer 100 in the 2020 247 Composite.
Out of high school, KU never offered Cryer. KU recruited Bryce Thompson at the 2 spot in that class. That’s who Self and staff chose over Cryer the first time.
Once Cryer entered the portal after the 2022-23 season, Cryer was well established as a 2 who couldn’t play the 1 full time. In regards to NIL, Self and staff chose Hunter Dickinson as the big money transfer. In regards to on court positions, Self and staff chose Morris and Timberlake over Cryer.
So again, Dejuan Harris had nothing to do with where LJ Cryer ended up playing in college. Comparing the two and continuing to try and imply Harris is why Cryer never came here has zero merit to it.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I guess in missed him at the bottom in the fine print. So 4th best in the B12 long shot from the best in the country. He stank and I’ve never been more happy to see a guy graduate. Jump pass turnovers for 5 while too scared to shoot is more than I can handle. There is zero doubt we have missed several great recruits and transfer because self thinks he’s a god.
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@kjayhawks said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I guess in missed him at the bottom in the fine print. So 4th best in the B12 long shot from the best in the country. He stank and I’ve never been more happy to see a guy graduate. Jump pass turnovers for 5 while too scared to shoot is more than I can handle. There is zero doubt we have missed several great recruits and transfer because self thinks he’s a god.
Drop the damn argument about the best PG in the B12. I don’t know why in the hell you think I keep making that argument, because I haven’t. I don’t remember myself ever making that argument, and if I ever did, it hasn’t been in the past couple of years.
You keep claiming he wouldn’t start on any other team in the Big 12 and I’ve called bullshit for that statement multiple times but that doesn’t equal me thinking or claiming he’s the best PG in the Big 12. I will say that he would’ve started for about half the teams in the Big 12 this past season.
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@dylans said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@RockkChalkk I do fully believe if KJ doesn’t get hurt KU wins. That sucked the life out of the team.
The life that Hunter hadn’t already stolen. His plodding pace was brutal.
Yeah he was a “good” player but I’m glad to be moving on in general.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@RockkChalkk do you watch all the games?
Yes, every single one for as long as i can remember. Decades.
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@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@dylans said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@RockkChalkk I do fully believe if KJ doesn’t get hurt KU wins. That sucked the life out of the team.
The life that Hunter hadn’t already stolen. His plodding pace was brutal.
Yeah he was a “good” player but I’m glad to be moving on in general.
For sure people react I like hate Juan/KJ and wish harm to them. I actually think they are Great individuals and hope the real world treats them well. That being said they maybe the least improved 4+ year players in Kansas basketball history and limited us severely the last two seasons and those that know ball a 100% agree.
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I think anyone who speaks English knows what “faith in Bill” means. Whether one has faith in him or not is a different issue.
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@Jhawk69 do we? I was trying to parse it a little bit and quantify it, because to me “faith in Bill” means a lot of different things to different people.
If we expect tourney success next year, I think we are going to be pretty disappointed, unless we believe Self can hit a portal homerun, and i dont think we can expect it in 2 years if he doesnt get a couple more high level athletes , be it from portal or high school.
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@kjayhawks He wouldn’t start at any other program but KS. Proof is in the pudding these last 2 years
Bill’s son got favoritism - not shocked
