What does “faith in Bill” mean?
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@dylans said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@RockkChalkk I do fully believe if KJ doesn’t get hurt KU wins. That sucked the life out of the team.
The life that Hunter hadn’t already stolen. His plodding pace was brutal.
Yeah he was a “good” player but I’m glad to be moving on in general.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@RockkChalkk do you watch all the games?
Yes, every single one for as long as i can remember. Decades.
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@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@dylans said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@RockkChalkk I do fully believe if KJ doesn’t get hurt KU wins. That sucked the life out of the team.
The life that Hunter hadn’t already stolen. His plodding pace was brutal.
Yeah he was a “good” player but I’m glad to be moving on in general.
For sure people react I like hate Juan/KJ and wish harm to them. I actually think they are Great individuals and hope the real world treats them well. That being said they maybe the least improved 4+ year players in Kansas basketball history and limited us severely the last two seasons and those that know ball a 100% agree.
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I think anyone who speaks English knows what “faith in Bill” means. Whether one has faith in him or not is a different issue.
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@Jhawk69 do we? I was trying to parse it a little bit and quantify it, because to me “faith in Bill” means a lot of different things to different people.
If we expect tourney success next year, I think we are going to be pretty disappointed, unless we believe Self can hit a portal homerun, and i dont think we can expect it in 2 years if he doesnt get a couple more high level athletes , be it from portal or high school.
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@kjayhawks He wouldn’t start at any other program but KS. Proof is in the pudding these last 2 years
Bill’s son got favoritism - not shocked
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He needs to go.
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It’s time
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Is Bill planning on making changes to the coaching staff or is he going to keep the staff the same. If he’s not changing the staff, that’s a big problem at this point because it sounds like it’s going to cost him at least two current players in Flory and Passmore.
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@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
It’s time
Dang from you even…wooffff
Flory thing did you in…just wait until DP flips last minute and @FarmerJayhawk can’t believe it
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It has been tough to watch the last few years. The play on the court has been a big drop off. The Juan stuff and now Flory has really burned.
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Who would be top target to replace?
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@RockkChalkk said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
Who would be top target to replace?
Every assistant but KT at this point is expendable to me.
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Well dam, Said I had a bad feeling when asked about his future and he said he would have to talk with his people
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Retaining Flory was frankly all I cared about. What a disaster. Seriously doubt we have the infrastructure or the momentum to build a competitive roster for next year, or the one after.
Go, Bill.
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Flory’s camp absolutely messed this up. What a clown car.
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Heard they are meeting w/staff tmrw.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
Heard they are meeting w/staff tmrw.
Flory camp? Or, just a staff meeting? Who is meeting with staff?
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@FarmerJayhawk said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
Flory’s camp absolutely messed this up. What a clown car.
Agreed
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@DCHawker said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
Heard they are meeting w/staff tmrw.
Flory camp? Or, just a staff meeting? Who is meeting with staff?
Flory’s rat bag of a guardian
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@FarmerJayhawk said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@DCHawker said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
Heard they are meeting w/staff tmrw.
Flory camp? Or, just a staff meeting? Who is meeting with staff?
Flory’s rat bag of a guardian
Guessing he’s gonna try to extort Coach.
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@TYOHawk said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@DCHawker said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
Heard they are meeting w/staff tmrw.
Flory camp? Or, just a staff meeting? Who is meeting with staff?
Flory’s rat bag of a guardian
Guessing he’s gonna try to extort Coach.
You would be correct. He’s trying to act like they’re just seeing what’s out there with rosters and whatnot but it’s all a cash grab.
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I posted this on the Portal thread, but does anybody even know if Flory is eligible for NIL cash, being from another country?
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@DCHawker flory camp w/staff. It’s in the KC star.
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@FarmerJayhawk After this, I’d be fine with never dealing with an African recruit again because it seems like way too many have so much unnecessary drama attached to them through their handlers and KU has been screwed over multiple times by the handlers of African recruits.
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Having a hard time discerning what to think here. I value your opinions about Flory’s handlers @FarmerJayhawk @Texas-Hawk-10 . Is this a story about crappy handlers, or Bill’s mismanagement of Flory’s minutes, or KU falling behind in the recruitment game, or all of above? Can you ballpark a % of responsibility as you see it in the various buckets thats adds up to 100% so i can get a maybe quantifiable take from your guys’ feelings at present, realizing that the situation is entirely fluid?
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@approxinfinity Of the 3 players at the center of the NCAA investigation against KU, 2 of them were African players whose handlers were too damn greedy.
I’m not saying this as a blanket statement, but there’s just a lot of shadiness involving African recruits and their handlers because many of these kids come from pretty impoverished backgrounds. This makes it pretty easy to financially exploit those kids and their families by greedy handlers that only care about money and not what’s best for the kid.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@FarmerJayhawk After this, I’d be fine with never dealing with an African recruit again because it seems like way too many have so much unnecessary drama attached to them through their handlers and KU has been screwed over multiple times by the handlers of African recruits.
This is a crazy statement
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@approxinfinity I think it’s almost all Flory’s guardian. Dude seems shady as hell. It takes some serious stones to communicate all year things are good, we’re looking forward to coming back then do a total 180. And none of his stated reasons hold up to even minimal scrutiny. Like @Texas-Hawk-10 said, the whole business of getting African kids over here can be really gross and attract some really bad characters.
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Coaches are allowed to leverage university’s for more money but how dare the players do it
Had the roster not been so poorly mismanaged this year - we might not be in this predicament
But many here will never ever think it is Self or KU’s fault ….literally ever
Head meet sand
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@kuballin10 well accountability / blame isnt binary. Theres a lot to go around.
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It’s a tough deal right now. We all agree Bill Self is a legend and probably at least top 10 all time. As I said on other posts, the game has passed by many many legends whether anyone wants to admit it or not. The issue is the last two years have been terrible. I’d say 2 of the 3 worst teams in the Self era. We are currently paying Bill Self 9 million dollars a year to run our program. He has to adjust the way he does stuff or eventually he will be ran out of town. It’s just that simple to me. “Doing the same thing repeatedly while expecting a different result is insanity” Albert Einstein
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@Crimsonorblue22 Any word on what went on at the meeting?
