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Griffen 4/4 from three and 2/2 from the line.
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@DanR as expected/ chiefs
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Flory gonna be really good- - I mean really good.
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42 Bench points?
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KJ with NINE REBOUNDS - – NINE REBOUNDS- - - - NINE
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@kjayhawks it’s always cause you don’t want to play when u lose.
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@DanR cause they didn’t want to play. I’m being a SA
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Zeke TOOK OFF TODAY, NOT MANT IN A MEAN WAY - -DIDN’T HAVE TO CARRY THE LOAD- - -MERCY I THINK SOMEONE PISSED THE GUYS OFF
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KU-- -61 Rebounds – -UCF- - -32
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@wissox said in Central Flaw rid unh-uh:
@DanR I was thinking about getting one. Any suggestions?
Muck Fizzou is always good. But get a few fb player friends if you wander near Meth U.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I don’t like the long lay off for the chiefs starters with the bye. Hot shots in the first playoff game won’t have played since Christmas
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@mayjay That’s a good suggestion because my mom would be naive to what it means, I’d tell her it’s the name of the next great White Sox player or something because if she knew what it really meant she’d amputate the arm it was painted on…without anesthesia.
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Kinda funny , Gurly talking with Coach in post game and Gurly asked Coach what he thought the difference was today ? - -He said he think they were a pissed off team ( KU ) - -I said the same thing , I think the guys were just pissed off
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Central Flaw rid unh-uh:
@kjayhawks it’s always cause you don’t want to play when u lose.
Right go watch the WV and say with a straight face say we played hard the first 25 plus minutes. Even self had an extended practice where he called the team out for such but okay
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That’s not what you said!
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This was a fun game to watch
How about Flo
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All you "The game has passed Bill Self by"guys…HAHAHAHAHAHAhah
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@AsadZ talented and learning
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@kjayhawks said in Central Flaw rid unh-uh:
Well that felt good for a change amazing what you can do if you actually want to play
@Crimsonorblue22 this what you replied to and yes it is what I said
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Hunter Dickinson Highlights vs. UCF (27 Pts, 9 Rebs, 3 Blks)
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Flory Bidunga Highlights vs. UCF (12 Pts, 5 Rebs, 6 Blks)
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Rylan Griffen Highlights vs. UCF (14 Pts, 4 Rebs)
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Well then. Surprise, Surprise!
How’s about that. Anybody see that coming? Dunno where that came from, but more of it works for me!
Straight up Kentucky like bashing from way back when. Love it.
I was honestly surprised to see Shaq start. If that’s the energy or mojo we need, great. Can’t argue with the game result.
Storr has to be steaming with mop up duty. This will be interesting to watch for the rest of the season.
Well done, Jayhawks!
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KU played today?
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I’ll say it so @kuballin10 doesnt have to: Self used his personnel well today. People were used in the roles they were intended to be used and they responded.
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@kjayhawks every game I lost was not because I didn’t want to play. Maybe you didn’t show up but I did. Poor excuse.
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@approxinfinity said in Central Flaw rid unh-uh:
I’ll say it so @kuballin10 doesnt have to: Self used his personnel well today. People were used in the roles they were intended to be used and they responded.
I mean, maybe about the roles?
I’ll admit i was worried about the offense with Shaq starting today. I thought that left us down to Zeke as the only starter who could score other than Hunter in the post.
I’m gonna guess that Self uses that 5th starter spot as he needs to each game. Could see the lineup change depending on matchups? We’ll find out i suppose.
A nice way to start the new year. Expectations are now up!
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@SlimShaddy54 said in Central Flaw rid unh-uh:
Kinda funny , Gurly talking with Coach in post game and Gurly asked Coach what he thought the difference was today ? - -He said he think they were a pissed off team ( KU ) - -I said the same thing , I think the guys were just pissed off
Probably not a good idea to accidentally drop the confetti on the team you hope to upset in the pre-game shoot around. Might be a minor motivator.
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So you all think this might be a starting five that can really get these guys to click and a regular basis ? - -Moore, /juan-- -KJ- - - Hunter – -& Mayo ?
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@SlimShaddy54 yes. Also the hunter 25 minutes kj 23 minutes flory 20 minutes usage was great
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@Crimsonorblue22 right I’m just saying that they clearly didn’t show up against WV or Mizzou for matter. Rewatch those games and today’s. Tell me which one we are actually going after loose balls and rebounds.
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@SlimShaddy54 it worked well today so I wouldn’t change it, Rylan seem to be better off the bench in this one. I’m thinking Storr will start to step it up and take most of Diggys minutes.
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Wonder if Moore getting the start was matchup based, UCF runs a 3-guard lineup so matching that could have been what they thought was the best move. Perhaps also signaling a scheme change on offense given the struggles there? What doesn’t make much sense is how he played 2 minutes in the previous game then gets his first start and most minutes of the season in this one. I would say he did fine, the 6 assists were a plus including the dime he dropped into Flory for a dunk, he also made a couple 3’s late in the game to show off his shooting.
I want to see “more” from Moore since he is such an unknown still. I’m still picturing this aggressive driving guard that will give us an element we don’t have who can put pressure on defenses and get to the line/finish/get Hunt/Flory/KJ easy baskets. I’m hoping that’s what he can provide on that side of the ball while being a pesky defender on the perimeter to go with Harris.
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UCF seems like a roller coaster team. Have wins over Kenpom #12 and #14 teams (Texas A&M & Texas Tech) including the Tech game on the road in their previous game and then they come home and get walloped by 51. At least from the jump KU came out throwing punches and they didn’t have the same juice. UCF is #81 Kenpom so the metrics don’t think too highly of them so not sure what to take from this win in the bigger picture. It was a great response from the West Virginia game. Self got their attention and I hope it was the turning point to seeing this level of play more often.
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Next opponent Arizona St has two five-star freshman KU recruited to various degrees in Joson Sanon & Jayden Quaintance. Kenpom #57 team with #34 ranked defense so we’ll see how we do against a top 40 defense. Their leading scorer is a 6’9 big who can shoot the 3 (38%) and loves to get to the FT line. Hopefully we bring some of the same juice as yesterday at home this time and make another statement.
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@BeddieKU23 They were around 60 before this loss iirc. This was obviously an insane game. KU jumped 5 spots which basically never happens this late in the season.
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@BShark I saw that in the Ken Pom rankings too. Never seen it before with a team ranked so highly at this point of a season—we jumped from 13 to 8.
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An historic one-off type game, that’s crazy. I know this UCF team is better than they showed yesterday as I’ve watched them play a few times and have seen a much higher level of play from them. They just seemed shellshocked by the level of activity from KU which was a 360 from our previous game.
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KU just came our really aggressive from the start ,We just looked like we played angry ball, just dominant. KJ NINE REBOUNDS ? I’ll take that all day long , the question being where has this been all this time ?- -hopefully it continues, really like Shaq in the line up good play , really like the make up of the team yesterday,
Coach said that chances are we will see more of Hunter and Flory together, Flory being mobile and able to guard out on the floor.- - Love Flory being an athlete, King Mcclure told KU fans not to get used to seeing Flory long. - -I do think Flory will be NBA - -but I also think he will be back for his 2nd year , after that all bets are off lol.
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@SlimShaddy54 Amazing what rebounding effort does for a team!
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@SlimShaddy54 that block and transition dunk was something special.
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GOOD NEWS / BAD NEWS
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Hunt went hunting. Great to see him play aggressively and it paid huge dividends.
KJ showed effort. I almost passed out when seeing him seal off the boards. Who does he think he is? Charles Barkley? 9 rebounds! As I mentioned before… we won’t lose many games where he grabs around 10 boards.
Juan was Juan. He went with the flow and was the glue guy. Great!
Moore defended. It helped lift our guys up and they all showed more energy! Offense starts with defense! A+
Flory owns everyone. I thought he had 10 blocks because he was so dominant! This guy needs more minutes!
AJ fit a bit better. Didn’t look so lost out there and found ways to contribute. Positive sign!
Rylan brought offense! This is what he can do! BAM!
Zeke was human after all. Not big scoring numbers but huge assists and aiding team basketball.
Diggy helped more than the stat sheet. Cold from outside but he gave us great energy off the bench.
This was an example of how we can play when we come prepared for a game! Energy was great and played team basketball!
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UCF played horribly. We deserve some of the cred for making that happen but not all. Their body language was horrible and they didn’t put up any kind of fight. My takeaway is they made us look better than we are. We will run into tougher dog fights that will better test where we are…
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It starts with defense! Moore and Flory are big sparks! KJ can be, too, when he hustles! Having those guys focus on D makes us a tough bunch to beat and it translates to everyone playing tougher D. Offense comes naturally when playing good D.
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We saw today why we were picked #1 preseason which is this roster is loaded. I wasn’t familiar with Shak, Griffen, Storr, Coit or Zeke. I kept hearing KU fans will love Flory because he can run the court and has a big motor. We can now add fast learner to that list. I saw that opponents played him very physically which I thought he resented and now doesn’t work as a tactic. Not a lot of floor time for him but he picked up the defense quickly and true to his smarts played it to the max. As we’ve seen he takes ownership of mistakes and that’s a big reason why he is so good. I mentioned before his presence on the floor especially defensively frees up the big dog to be in rebound position and make his top level outlet passes. Can we imagine him as a 14/10/4 guy? Shak played a sneaky good game and will be a huge difference maker as a ball handler, passer, scorer and all around speed demon. Will Storrs, who was projected to be our big guard perimeter defender who could even guard a 4 if needed and Griffen who has been in the big time take over and run with it now with penetration and bombs away? Juan may finally get the pieces we were hoping for and stir up a storm. Big time defender type teams like ISU and Houston can’t shut us down when our guys are as good or better than theirs. But it was just one game. One 50 point beat down game. Which is more impressive/surprising our 99 or their 48?
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We need to make sure we get a 2nd year from Flory. Hunt’s NIL goes to him, whatever it takes. Pairing him with DP and whoever else next year could be scary. Those highlights from yesterday are a glimpse of his future. Sure, he can’t really shoot outside 4 feet right now and KU’s system is absolutely setup for a guy with his attributes to flourish. He’s a plus defender, plus athleticism and finishes at the rim at an elite level so far (81.6%). I don’t know how draftable he is right now, as is but I’m certainly paying attention now if he strings more of these kind of games together. The lightbulb has certainly come on for him and is fun to watch.
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@Zabudda I remember in his preseason interview his reason for wanting to come to Kansas was to be coached by Bill Self. He has total respect for him.
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To be able to finish at the rim 81%. Come on now, to do that you are finishing through contact which is usually a learning process for freshmen. To be already able to play at the level he does thank goodness. I can’t define his level as it keeps going up.
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I like interesting stats and Flory is certainly giving us some. He’s missed 9 shots this season. Obviously he’s a low volume guy yet that’s out of 49 shots. That seems to indicate a brain that is either afraid Bill will yank him if he misses or a brain that tells him, I’m only shooting if I know I’ll make it. I wish I had a brain like that when I play basketball!
He’s being compared to Doke and his 46% FT shooting is on par with Doke. Not many guys have a FT % that is over 30% lower than their FG%.
Yesterday he padded his blocks stat, but he now is averaging 1.2 per game. That’s a nice number for most players, but he does that while averaging 13 minutes per game.
If you extrapolate his fouls he would be fouling out every game if he played 40 minutes a game. Maybe coaches are like don’t worry about fouls because you’re not playing enough minutes for you to foul out, but 2 fouls per 13 minutes is a lot.
Before we send him off to the NBA he’s had some recent ‘duds’. They coincided with the losing streak in December coupled with the win against NCS. 3 points total in those three games. Those three games are his only games in which he’s scored less than 6 points.
I hope he stays obviously. I also hoped Grady and Johnny would have stayed as well and that didn’t go so well. Pay the man so we see him here another year or three!
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@BeddieKU23 said in Central Flaw rid unh-uh:
An historic one-off type game, that’s crazy. I know this UCF team is better than they showed yesterday as I’ve watched them play a few times and have seen a much higher level of play from them. They just seemed shellshocked by the level of activity from KU which was a 360 from our previous game.
It basically takes a perfect storm for a game like that. It was a good match-up for KU to begin with and then UCF’s gameplan on both ends made little sense.
Oh and listen to this https://x.com/LetMeC00k/status/1876307386509709454
It’s audio so you do have to go to the app to listen but Bill talks about how teams don’t have to respect KJ’s jump shot and that he is limited.
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@BShark yep that’s old news
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@BShark Yet he still gives him a ton of minutes and draws up plays for him constantly and at crucial times
Make it make sense (you can’t)
