Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster
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I think McDowell likely beats out Passmore for bench minutes unless Self wants to redshirt him.
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Well, with Noah Shelby now on the roster, is that it? We done cookin? One scholarship left to offer.
EDIT didn’t realize Shelby was a walk-on. keep on cookin, Bill!
Edit to the edit: still unclear officially if Shelby is on scholarship or a walk on
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Kansas Jayhawks
Departed or expected to depart: Kevin McCullar Jr. (18.3 PPG), Nicolas Timberlake (5.2 PPG), Parker Braun (2.2 PPG), Michael Jankovich (1.6 PPG), Johnny Furphy (9.0 PPG)
In limbo: None.
Expected to return: Hunter Dickinson (17.9 PPG), Dajuan Harris Jr. (8.5 PPG), K.J. Adams Jr. (12.6 PPG), Elmarko Jackson (4.3 PPG), Jamari McDowell (1.8 PPG), Zach Clemence (1.4 PPG in 2022-23)
Incoming transfers: Zeke Mayo (18.8 PPG at South Dakota State), AJ Storr (16.8 PPG at Wisconsin), Rylan Griffen (11.2 PPG at Alabama), Noah Shelby (3.9 PPG at Rice)
Incoming freshmen: Flory Bidunga (No. 17 in ESPN 100), Rakease Passmore (No. 32 in ESPN 100)
Head coach: Bill Self
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@dylans Looks like the only real loss is McCullar; the incoming players should more than make up for his production. (Pump up Furphy all you want, but he was a liability in the second half of pretty much every game) I’m hoping for a major improvement as last years roster construction was terrible - just too few good players.
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@dylans The promise of a year 2 Furphy is a loss. But yeah, thats a lot of incoming ppg
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The two biggest factors for KU this season will be AJ Storr and Zeke Mayo. Is Storr going to be as selfish a player as he was last season? And, can Zeke Mayo play well enough to where Self can play a lot of 4 out offense?
If Storr plays selfishly and/or Mayo plays like Timberlake on offense, then KU’s offense isn’t very scary because there’s not much outside shooting like last season and teams will pack the paint to stop Storr from driving amd automatically doubling Dickinson.
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Ok being able to use numbers above 5 threw me https://x.com/kuhoops/status/1797721696532865291?s=46&t=c0LiaNrxev6XfT7LIH8dAQ
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some good looking numbers! like em. Bidunga at 40. Was Kevin Young #40?
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The staff took out all the camp staff for drinks tonight on Bill’s tab. Nice gesture
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Elmarko is out for the year with a torn patella tendon. Terrible news.
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@Woodrow said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Elmarko is out for the year with a torn patella tendon. Terrible news.
For real? Oh no!
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@Woodrow said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Elmarko is out for the year with a torn patella tendon. Terrible news.
For real? Oh no!
Unfortunately.
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That’s brutal. Looked ok yesterday but knees are weird like that
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Oh man, that sucks.
Another year of Dajuan without a backup? Eff. I hope Self has his eyes on an NBA draft dropout.
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This is really bad news for Elmarko. Is there a deadline for signing portal guys or even still unsigned kids out of HS?
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I had a 100% rip of my patella tendon. You know immediately there is a problem when your kneecap is halfway up your quad. It happened on the court and no one could look at it while they hauled me off. It marked the end of my playing days and I had to learn how to walk again and never regained athletic abilities again.
This is a huge loss… I hope he can rehab and play again.
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It’s what happened to Perry when he played in TBT in wichita, we saw it. My oldest son just recovered from the same injury in dec. playing bb, actually coaching. He was blocking a shot and came down, fell to the floor. Said the thought he was shot, loud noise. Had to be carried to a car. It was a nasty scar. Long a$$ recovery. I’m sure having rehab daily and being younger will help. His staples were from mid thigh to mid shin. Gross!
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@rockchalkjayhawk still have mayo who will hopefully be able to make the P5 leap and be an decent backup PG. If not, then year we are back in the same boat.
It also probably means we are relying on some 10-15 mpg from one of Passmore/McDowell which could be ok, but that is likely a downgrade from Elmarko getting those minutes.
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Horrible news about EJ! Hope he duly recovers!
Any chance Noah Shelby drops his redshirt (or does he play off ball)?
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Shak Moore come on down.
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Too bad we dont have a Chrysler Labaron Philon to jumpstart our Ford Tiempo
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@approxinfinity Did he commit elsewhere? Can he undo his uncommitment and recommit to committing?
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He signed with Alabama. His handlers wanted him elsewhere
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@BShark said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Shak Moore come on down.
Need 2 now…
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@BeddieKU23 said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@BShark said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Shak Moore come on down.
Need 2 now…
I don’t think they will but I get where you are coming from. I think they get it done with Moore now that they have a clear role/path to PT available.
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@BShark said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Shak Moore come on down.
Probably the best PG available at this point and should be able to fill a back up PG role, but does he want to be a back up or is he waiting for a starting job somewhere?
I’m guessing KK Robinson from UALR would be another name KU tries to make contact with now and see if there’s any interest for him to return to the P5.
The market for PG’s isn’t great right now.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Bill got it done. Being officially reported.
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Well now we can dream about what a 3rd year Marko could be like. Kid had all the physical tools. Are we saying full physical recovery unlikely?
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@approxinfinity said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Well now we can dream about what a 3rd year Marko could be like. Kid had all the physical tools. Are we saying full physical recovery unlikely?
Impossible to know, but sometimes patellar stuff is career ending.
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Makes getting an elite PG in 25 paramount though.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Makes getting an elite PG in 25 paramount though.
Yep that spot is wiiiide open.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Makes getting an elite PG in 25 paramount though.
Doesn’t Peterson run some point ? At one point thought we were pretty tick with him
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@jayballer67 he’s not coming here. Honestly wouldn’t want him as a full time PG anyway. He’s talented, but not good enough to come in and run the show.
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Cough Acuff cough
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This move also makes me feel better about the defense. Moore is a super defender. You could have play he and Juan together when you just flat need a stop.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
This move also makes me feel better about the defense. Moore is a super defender. You could have play he and Juan together when you just flat need a stop.
Juan/Moore/Griffen/???/Not Hunter
Work in progress but we might be able to field a “get a stop” line-up.
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@BShark KJ/Flory at the 4/5? Idk.
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@BShark Perry recovered well and he did it here. My son had the KU surgeon. Elmarko’s young.
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@approxinfinity feel so bad for him. It’s an awful injury.
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@dylans said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
Cough Acuff cough
ya hopefully would be nice. How did I forget about him . lol
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I had a complete quad tear in my early 60’s - it took a full year, but did get back to normal, and still playing sports. Patellar tear may be a different animal tho.
Actually, I looked up both, and looks like they have the same outcomes. With the right rehab regimen, Elmarko should recover well.
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@benshawks08 So he has to commit to an uncommitment so he can uncommit to commit?
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@Bosthawk he’ll have the best rehab. Hope they can get him to classes ok. Might have to skip the first summer school session.
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Well there ya go, the roster appears set.
Current likely depth chart. Positions a bit murky.
PG Harris — Moore — Mayo
SG Storr — Mayo — Passmore — McDowell
SF Griffen — Passmore
PF KJ — Clemence
C Dickinson — Bidunga — Clemence
Main Bench: Mayo — Passmore — Moore — Bidunga
Redshirt: Elmarko — Shelby
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What happens to Elmarko’s NIL?
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it becomes Next Invite Lucrativity?
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@mayjay said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
What happens to Elmarko’s NIL?
He will still get some money.
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I know sports med technology improves constantly. My injury was back in the mid-90s. I had a well-reputed sports specialist as my doctor/surgeon. He told me even before the surgery I would never return to 100% or even close. I wore a locked leg brace for 6 months. When it came off, I had zero quad muscle left… just a string. Took me a year just to walk without any hitch at all. I had constant PT for 2 years. I was mid-30s and playing semi-pro in The Netherlands at the time. Wouldn’t surprise me if every tendon rip injury is a bit unique, depending on how the tear is and other factors.
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Moore is a flat out upgrade to Elmarko but we would have been better with both. Elmarko’s upside was going to be a tantalizing part of this season but now Self has a grizzled vet from the SEC who offers more stability in his role on both ends. Moore can shoot and score at the rim and his defense will help a team that has plenty of questions on that end. It sounds like Moore was coming anyway before the injury so this definitely hits Self hard in him wanting 8 starters. Unless they kick the penalty to next yr he’s unlikely to get everything perfect. He can make do with this roster though and has no excuse
