2024 Recruiting
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2024 Recruiting:
@kuballin10 the point is that Bill has to Settle vs getting who he wants.
Makes the margin for error a bit more slim. Duke gets to bring 1st round picks off the bench lol
And those first round picks win them nothing in college. It’s comical really.
I agree with your point but when you look at the end result, these kids that are going to Duke as 5 star type talent are there a blur and gone. They have a model that works for them that doesn’t work here
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@BeddieKU23 I definitely get the argument that winning without experience is difficult. To some extent that is what makes the Adidas sponsorship a blessing in disguise. The 2013-2014 team is sort of an example of what a OAD turnstyle team would do under Bill for sure. And Wiggs and Embiid were TALENTS.
Still, I will always wonder what could have been for Bill if he got to handpick kids from each class essentially.
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Flory announcing Saturday Night. - -How are we feeling ? - -we got a shot ? - -A legit shot ?
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@jayballer67 said in 2024 Recruiting:
Flory announcing Saturday Night. - -How are we feeling ? - -we got a shot ? - -A legit shot ?
Just gonna assume duke and be pleasantly surprised if otherwise
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@rcjhdraft said in 2024 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 said in 2024 Recruiting:
Flory announcing Saturday Night. - -How are we feeling ? - -we got a shot ? - -A legit shot ?
Just gonna assume duke and be pleasantly surprised if otherwise
ya it’s looking like a duke lock
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Flory situation is a goat rodeo. Too hard to parse. Duke writer now saying he would change his crystal ball to foggy if that were still a feature.
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@BShark said in 2024 Recruiting:
Flory situation is a goat rodeo. Too hard to parse. Duke writer now saying he would change his crystal ball to foggy if that were still a feature.
Hmmm , well that might be a little bit of possible good news -I know he is announcing tomorrow night I beleive, not getting my hopes up to high - -but never say never I reckon - till the fat lady sings
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Read an Article from fan sided , saying the top 5 - -2024 recruits that KU must needs - -guys they are i on:
5 - -Tre Johnson : - they talk like not much of a chance for Trae - -Baylor seem to be the leader there, # 3 recruit - if not Baylor then Texas & Kentucky running close 2nd
#4 - -Patrick Ngongba - - -# 11 player - - - # 3 - - Derik Queen - # 10 player has a visit planned - -might be some hope there - -then # 2 player : - -Jalid Bethea , looks like this will go into the winter, no rush to decide has visit planned- - think the last of Sept. - I myslef feel like our best shots might be Queen & Bethea - -we shallo see
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Need to drop Adidas if flory goes to auburn and underarmor. Smh
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@rcjhdraft said in 2024 Recruiting:
Need to drop Adidas if flory goes to auburn and underarmor. Smh
he not going to Auburn
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¯_(ツ)_/¯ on this one. Think we’re better off in the portal if we need a starting big. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be excited if we got him. But I don’t think he’s a better prospect than Cliff was, and he took awhile to get going.
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Looking like Auburn brought the right amount to the table. Pearl is a strong recruiter and apparently has a strong NIL backing his efforts.
Personally I think we dodge a bullet if we miss here. It is noteworthy how much Bill recruited him, I would guess he’s put in more time with Flory then a majority of players he’s went after in recent years. If Flory doesn’t want to be coached by Self, I think I have my answers
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oh how quickly the tide turn- - - Brucie opening the ol pocket book- – -AGAIN
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WE GOT HIM
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I was still celebrating the Furphy commitment and now I get Flory. Bro this is euphoria to me.
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Rare Adidas W
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@BShark said in 2024 Recruiting:
Flory situation is a goat rodeo. Too hard to parse. Duke writer now saying he would change his crystal ball to foggy if that were still a feature.
At least it went better than the last one KU was involved in with a late twist (Mgbako).
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From Cincinnati to Auburn to Duke to Auburn to Kansas
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I will say Flory will be a little bit of a slow burn. He’s kind of a cross between Cliff and Cheick
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Can Flory develop into a 4? That’s what will determine his NBA future. He’s got the athleticism, but can he develop his shooting range to be a 4? I would imagine that’ll be a huge part of the focus on developing his game at KU.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 not at KU. He’s a 50% type FT shooter so he just won’t be around long enough for his game to stretch. Now if he’s really 6’10 and gets to 240 then it’s a different conversation.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 Recruiting:
WE GOT HIM
WOW . I didn’t even pay attention to the announcement cause I didn’t think there was a snow balls chance in hell. I saw these CB’S for Duke - -Then last night & today for Auburn lo -thought welp – movin along, huge defensive help
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Whoa nelly…i thought he was an Auburn lock! how strangely exciting! I gotta go read up about him, catch up on 2024 class.
He’s a 5? What kinda skillz he got?
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@rockchalkjayhawk very much just a run runner and dunker right now. Not much offensive skill to speak of.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 Recruiting:
@rockchalkjayhawk very much just a run runner and dunker right now. Not much offensive skill to speak of.
pretty decent rim protector too - -w can always use that
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 Recruiting:
@Texas-Hawk-10 not at KU. He’s a 50% type FT shooter so he just won’t be around long enough for his game to stretch. Now if he’s really 6’10 and gets to 240 then it’s a different conversation.
Who has him listed at 6-10? 24/7, Rivals, and ESPN all have him either 6-8 or 6-9 and between 210-220 lbs. so very much not a 5 at the NBA level. I’ve also read that his lack of height could force him to hang around college a second year. I believe Bleacher Report compared his offensive game to Doke which should also mean that Flory needs to work on his jump shot to develop some range if he wants to stick in the NBA because being an undersized center won’t keep him in the NBA, it’ll send him overseas.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 it’s right there in the scouting report https://www.on3.com/db/flory-bidunga-153411/scouting/
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 Recruiting:
@Texas-Hawk-10 it’s right there in the scouting report https://www.on3.com/db/flory-bidunga-153411/scouting/
The profile has him at 6-9, 215. The author claims 6-10, but none of the recruiting services claim it so I would be very skeptical that all these sites are under reporting his height when it’s usually inflated by an inch or two.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 fiiiine. And arguing about an inch when he’s got a 7’4 wingspan is really a waste of time anyway. He’s flatly not going to be a college 4. Even in the scenario where Hunter comes back it would be tough to play them together. More likely he backs up Hunter and KJ sticks at the 4.
https://nbadraftroom.com/flory-bidunga/ https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-recruiting-whats-the-story-with-flory-several-things-add-up-to-make-him-pretty-special/
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A little scouting on Flory : - - - pretty dominant in the Las Vegas showdown whee he averaged - --18.5 ppg - - 9.7 rpg - -& 3.5 blocks per
Furter scouting on hi it says , Excellent shot blocker, quick off his feet , blocks wll on ball and weak side. He has a jump shot that extends to 10 feet can actually leaad the break but knows when to give it up. get’s a lot of points off the break a he beats his man down the floor. Finish’s with floaters & short corner jumpers - -patented shot is his jump hook - -left hand reliant right now but can get away with it right now because of his basket ball IQ. - -vey good offensive rebounder.
Gatoraide player of the year inn Indiana - his season stats last yr were insane - - -20. 2 points per game - - -13.8 rebounds per game - -& 4.5 blocks pe game - -but listen to this he shot – EIGHTY ONE % FROM THE FIELD lmao - - -OMG lol
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He plays soccer too!
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This is pleasant news
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Made my night!
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Didn’t expect it. Hope he sticks around to develop and learn from the best.
Self recruiting him personally had to make a difference here plus whatever big stick NIL we have… good times
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With Hunter in the mix, what will be his role in 2024? Backup center?
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Yeah… I don’t expect we will see both on the team at the same time. A lot can happen between now and next summer.
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The Diallo/ Cliff comp seems good here.
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I wonder if Hunter will actually come back after this yr ? - -Could be Bill recruited Flory on full assumption that Hunter will not be back
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Just happy Adidas didn’t let us down here. Reading tea leaves here, it either means Dickinson is gone or Flory and his team seem comfortable letting him get seasoning at KU multiple years…
Either way, I’m just glad and Adidas made a point to get their top guy to their top school. As it should be.
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Most likely it means Flory thinks he can come in and take the starting job from Dickinson. Luckily for him, Dickinson is unlikely to be around to show him otherwise
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Iam more likely wrong on this but I thought I had heard or read some where it was Hunter’s intention just to be here for the one year
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2024 Recruiting:
The Diallo/ Cliff comp seems good here.
I think a bit further along than Diallo at the same point. Also…bouncier? Cheick was FAST though. Hopefully he plays more for Kansas than Cheick did LOL.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 Recruiting:
@Texas-Hawk-10 fiiiine. And arguing about an inch when he’s got a 7’4 wingspan is really a waste of time anyway. He’s flatly not going to be a college 4. Even in the scenario where Hunter comes back it would be tough to play them together. More likely he backs up Hunter and KJ sticks at the 4.
https://nbadraftroom.com/flory-bidunga/ https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-recruiting-whats-the-story-with-flory-several-things-add-up-to-make-him-pretty-special/
We’re talking two different things here. I haven’t been posting about what he’ll play at KU. I’ve been posting about what he needs to do to succeed in the NBA and what he’ll play there.
He’ll be fine here at KU with his skill set and be able to contribute here for 1 or 2 years or however long he’s in Lawrence. But if he wants to make and stick in the NBA at his size, he has to develop a game away from the basket. If he doesn’t get any taller, being an undersized 5 with basically no offensive game is going to send him overseas instead of hanging around the NBA.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2024 Recruiting:
Just happy Adidas didn’t let us down here. Reading tea leaves here, it either means Dickinson is gone or Flory and his team seem comfortable letting him get seasoning at KU multiple years…
Either way, I’m just glad and Adidas made a point to get their top guy to their top school. As it should be.
Flory is raw enough on offense that he shouldn’t start day 1 at a place like Kansas and shouldn’t OAD if he wants a better chance at sticking in the NBA. Having him be a backup for a year to Dickinson and allowing him to play to his current strengths of being a high energy, above average defender and rebounder and allow him to develop some kind of offensive game for his second year is the ideal situation for both KU and Flory.
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@BShark looks like higher bb IQ
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What does this mean for Zach? I’m sure he was banking on being the man after Hunter left.
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How does Flory compare to Zuby and Udeh?
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@rockchalkwyo - on the one hand, Zach will have been in the system for 2 years and knows the plays. Flory is somewhat of a project. Zach should get lots of minutes at 4 or 5, I’d think. Brain will be gone.