Hog Wild Game Thread
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Maybe it’s the 10 second call late but that so reminiscent of Michigan in 2013. We had the ball up 4 with just over two minutes to go and had a ten second call. That’s so tough for me to handle from 2 really good guards that had mental lapses when you just can’t.
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Back to watching mountain bike videos and watching the world financial system collapse
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Watch some MLB in Spring and Summer.
Looking forward to next year’s team.
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@Bwag that’s not coaching - guys have said it all year he doesn’t move well without the ball and he can’t create off the dribble against better athletes
It’s been discussed all year on 247 and Bill has mentioned it. We run stuff for him
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To make matters worse KSU or UK will be in the sweet 16.
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Well that sucks. pretty pathetic second half with Harris dinged and KJ out.
Seemed obvious the defense let up with Harris hobbled. And he gave up a few chances at the rim he usually would take.
Highly disappointed in this outcome. Jalen with only NINE shot attempts. that’s bad.
Just didn’t need to lose this game. highly winnable.
Eff.
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@wissox nah only 1 team wins it all. Not gloating when we lose I’m a fan. Juan was good enough for us to win hit huge 3 to get us off 51.
We had a team good enough with matchups and hof coach
10 second call and 4 point run that ensued hurt
Rebound when ark guy missed free throw was huge
Bill would win that game. Hopefully it lights another fire and he dominates the portal and we dominate next year.
Self with Texas squad wins it all
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@rockchalkjayhawk Walsh is 6-7 with 7-2 arms - he d’ed him up well
Gradey didn’t step up
Juan, Kevin and KJ stepped up
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Arkansas effed up our post season twice this year.
I am bitter and officially hate them
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Note to officials: it is not your job to make sure the inferior team stays in the game.
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Buffered my expectations due to the wide ceiling/floor this team had. Really been more interested in next years roster construction of both KU and KC. Mahomes
is must watch tv for moi.
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@cragarhawk said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 once again we’ll have to disagree. That was definitely not the inspired defense we saw in the first 10-15 min of the game in my opinion
And when you have 4 fouls, you can’t play that aggressive otherwise you’ll foul out.
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World baseball classic is on, US Venezuela!
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5 months until Missouri State!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Who’s guarding council?
nobody today! sigh. Although, dude made some unreal, circus shots.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 some prescribe to that theory for sure. And some also say the lazy Defense creates the fouls.
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@kuballin10 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@wissox nah only 1 team wins it all. Not gloating when we lose I’m a fan. Juan was good enough for us to win hit huge 3 to get us off 51.
We had a team good enough with matchups and hof coach
10 second call and 4 point run that ensued hurt
Rebound when ark guy missed free throw was huge
Bill would win that game. Hopefully it lights another fire and he dominates the portal and we dominate next year.
Self with Texas squad wins it all
#BillWouldWinThatGame
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@cragarhawk said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 some prescribe to that theory for sure. And some also say the lazy Defense creates the fouls.
When you already have 4 fouls, you cannot play as aggressive as you want to, especially with how the refs called today, because you will foul out.
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Norm just didn’t make any adjustments. It’s ok unless he’s forced into being the coach again.
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@approxinfinity said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Seriously, a top 5 coach ever missing and the heads dont even mention it in their post game analysis.
The talking heads also said that Musselman really knows how to coach.
Losing credibility as an analyst.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 right. I agree. But… how’d you get the 3th and 4th foul? Not moving your feet? We just see it differently. And you know what? That is okay.
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@bskeet said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@approxinfinity said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Seriously, a top 5 coach ever missing and the heads dont even mention it in their post game analysis.
The talking heads also said that Musselman really knows how to coach.
Losing credibility as an analyst.
Whether you like him or not, Eric Musselman is a very good college coach. The only year he’s missed the NCAA Tournament was his first season at Nevada, and even then he won the CBI, and he’s taken Arkansas to back to back Elite 8’s.
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Well, Self’s post-season ban—er—leave is over. Now maybe we get final resolution on all of this alleged crap and can move on.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Eric is a better coach than Norm is no question
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@kjayhawks said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Eric is a better coach than Norm is no question
Had a lot of help from an inept crew. What podunk league were they from anyway?
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@bskeet refs didn’t miss FTs and get a 10 second call up 4 with 2 minutes to go. Bad crew but they were even.
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Refs not to blame for this game. We gave up 45 points in the second half. We missed FTs (esp. front-ends) and they made theirs. RBs were even at the half - they dominated in the 2d half, esp. with ORBs - ended up with 10 more shots. 3 TOs on Udeh’s illegal screens. End of half and late game execution was not typical - hate to lay that on coaching, but…there is a reason HCBS has the record he does in games decided by less than 5 points. Adds up to a loss in a game that was eminently winnable, even if not playing that well…
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@bskeet said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@kjayhawks said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Eric is a better coach than Norm is no question
Had a lot of help from an inept crew. What podunk league were they from anyway?
There were some questionable calls, but KU missed a bunch of FT’s, including the front end of several 1 and 1’s, and Norm made zero adjustments on Davis in the second half.
There’s a reason why Norm hasn’t gotten another head coaching job since he was fired from St. John’s.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 this we see similar. Norm is a great dude and almost perfect assistant to CS imo. But not a great HC. And not an HC at all anymore for good reason. But also not the reason, definitely not the sole reason we lost this game.
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Joe Lindsay - SEC
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Courtney Green - Big 10
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Marques Pettigrew - American, Big East, and others.
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@kjayhawks said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@bskeet refs didn’t miss FTs and get a 10 second call up 4 with 2 minutes to go. Bad crew but they were even.
That 10 second call was marginal. They also called 5 seconds that was marginal.
Meanwhile, Arkansas guys were stepping on the back line all the time… Not to mention all the wrapping, holding, pushing and other illegal contact. Then they call illegal screen twice and WTH was that double technical?
Not a masterpiece. KU didn’t play great, but they were disadvantaged largely because of horrible officiating in the first half and selective calls in the second half.
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@bskeet we can argue all evening I suppose but the players and coaches have to have accountability if the refs do it’s only fair. The zebras don’t miss shots, passes or forget to switch leading to wide open layup (think that happened 5 times today). That’s the KSU way of thinking IMO. Too good to lose on their own accord.
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@bskeet said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@kjayhawks said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@bskeet refs didn’t miss FTs and get a 10 second call up 4 with 2 minutes to go. Bad crew but they were even.
That 10 second call was marginal. They also called 5 seconds that was marginal.
Meanwhile, Arkansas guys were stepping on the back line all the time… Not to mention all the wrapping, holding, pushing and other illegal contact. Then they call illegal screen twice and WTH was that double technical?
Not a masterpiece. KU didn’t play great, but they were disadvantaged largely because of horrible officiating in the first half and selective calls in the second half.
Stop with the blaming the refs. All 3 moving screens on Udeh were good calls. Udeh moved too early on the first one and was late to his spot on the other two. The 10 second call was also a good call. That’s not a judgment call, Harris was slow bringing the ball up, that was purely on Harris, and not the first time Harris has turned it over like that because of a lack of awareness.
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Bottom line is & it’s simple. We can ty to make all the excuses you want - -try to find things but the bottom line is really simple.
Even if Jalen & Kevin hit the FRONT END of their one and one free throws - - not even hitting the back end of these - -yet if Jalen & Kevin hit the front end of those- - that’s TWO more points and we win - PERIOD pllain and simple, you hit your freebies - -you win
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Ok. Community has spoken.
Here’s what I’ve got: Yesufu’s 40ft 3pt shot was nice.
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@kjayhawks uninspired D second half leads to fouls, leads to more uninspired D(cause you cant/foul trouble) pretty simple equation for musselman. The entirety of existence knows our bench can’t hack it. Still with that? Hit your FT’s. Try to guard… rebound. Idk. Perfect storm of shittiness
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@bskeet if on positive notes, KJ was great in limited minutes and stepped up from the line.
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Yeah when we talk about this team not being athletic, sure as a team. But i think KJ may be the 3rd best athlete Self has ever had behind wiggins and embiid
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I actually think Udeh is stupidly athletic. He just needs time/growth
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@Texas-Hawk-10 that wasn’t 10 secs
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@bskeet One was a BIG ref that does a lot of Badger games.
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@Crimsonorblue22 @Texas-Hawk-10 I thought it was a good call, so I went back to check. Here are two pictures of the call. In both, the shot clock is showing 20 seconds (but doesn’t show tenths of a second). Harris’s feet are both clearly in the backcourt in the first picture, and his left foot is clearly down in the front court in the second (and the ref is starting to signal the violation). But the shot clock is still showing 20 seconds.
Time obviously elapsed as he stepped over the line. If 20 is showing, I assume it means a few tenths more than 20 are left, and thus less than 10 have elapsed before that foot was down.
So the ref was wrong, by a few tenths perhaps. But it is really so close, and coaches never want a player to let a ref make that call.
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@cragarhawk said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
I actually think Udeh is stupidly athletic. He just needs time/growth
I’m sure the college kids can find some sorta drink game based on how quickly Udeh fouls when he gets in the game! ha. I like his energy. He’s just a young big. Sasha was a fouling machine for nearly four years, so time to grow.
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Well, a strange boxscore today. You could glance and think KU would have won. Higher FG%, more 3s made. Both good signs.
But a closer looks tells the story IMO.
Arkansas took 8 more shots than KU.
Arkansas had a big advantage on offensive boards – 15-7.
And those stats likely lead to the difference in the game: 2nd chance points – 15-2.
Arkansas also outrebounded KU 36-29.
Damn! i’m still pissed!
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And i admit i need to go back to watch the final few possessions of the game, but WTF happened??? Why did Jalen choose to go for a 2 pt basket when we were down 3 with seconds to go??? Did they intentionally foul us up top before a shot could be taken?
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@mayjay I wanted to see when they started the clock.
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@rockchalkjayhawk yep that’s the most frustrating part for me as the famous coach Green quote “They were who we thought they were and we let them get away” I’ve been saying all day they lived on the offensive glass and we did good in the first half. The intensity just wasn’t the same after the first 5 minutes of the second half. Guys standing and watching. Maybe the most maddening part is their one free throw miss was huge bonus for them. I’ve watched that play 5 times Juan and KJ both just stood there not reacting to the miss. Both guys had a better angle but didn’t move towards the ball! You have to attack the ball and go get it.
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@kjayhawks I literally said to my Dad we better rebound this he’s missing the second one….and KJ and Joe couldn’t get it done as Walsh’s 8 foot arms somehow made a play
That was the biggest play in my opinion. We rebound it and have ball down 1 with what 39 seconds….or less we were sitting pretty
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@rockchalkjayhawk Bill does same thing takes 2’s as long as you can and it’s stupid. Your banking on quick free 2, them maybe missing a free throw but if not your back down 3 same position with less time to get a shot
Like nfl and passing caught up via analytics eventually these idiot coaches and announcers will say shoot the 3 with 15 seconds left. You put yourself in a position where you flat out just need to hit a big shot otherwise 9/10 you will lose doing the quick 2, foul and hope they miss crap
