2023 Transfer Portal
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@BShark I think Adams sticks in 24 ¯_(ツ)_/¯. 3 pros, 2 transfers out leaves you room to sign 1 transfer if it’s 5. I think it’s 6 total but 5 is more likely than 7
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@FarmerJayhawk That would change things for sure.
If we are counting those 3 then I’m putting the number at 7 w/ Adams reclass, 6 w/o. Think we need room for two starters. The way the roster sits right now, I just don’t think Self could go into it next season and hope to win at his usual level.
Agree 6 is a good number that makes a ton of sense to me. Cam retires, Cuffe finds a nice MEAC school and Zach probably a G5 school.
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@BShark might be wishful thinking on my part. The last thing we need is 3 developmental freshmen on a shot roster.
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If they don’t make room and add two transfers they could legitimately suck next year. Not like a down year for Bill. Like a 10-11 loss team suck.
Bobby sucks. Joe sucks. For all we know at the moment, Rice sucks. CJ will not be playable as a freshman. McDowell will not be playable as a freshman. You cannot roll out Juan/Elmarko/Transfer/KJ/Udeh with that bench and expect to win the conference. That isn’t going to get the job done.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
If they don’t make room and add two transfers they could legitimately suck next year. Not like a down year for Bill. Like a 10-11 loss team suck.
Bobby sucks. Joe sucks. For all we know at the moment, Rice sucks. CJ will not be playable as a freshman. McDowell will not be playable as a freshman. You cannot roll out Juan/Elmarko/Transfer/KJ/Udeh with that bench and expect to win the conference. That isn’t going to get the job done.
Strongly agree with this. We have to get two legit wings that have proven it at the college level. I think that’s absolutely required and I think it will be done.
Agree with what you are saying about the FR which does make @FarmerJayhawk idea of keeping Marcus in 24 make some sense. Keep room for a proven guy while forcing less out. Okay I can get behind that.
In my perfect world we are getting proven experienced depth for the 2G spot but I haven’t heard that’s on the table yet unlike the starting 3/4.
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@BShark Yea I mean I would love to keep MAdams in '24, but I usually when there is reclass talk it gets done. And the way this one got done it feels like someone else is leaving.
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340+ names in the portal after day 1 of it officially opening
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Believe there is a player we have already zeroed in on. I made a post and soft deleted, will restore it when he actually hits the portal (think he has some NIL stuff rake in at his current school first).
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https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1635680792385822722
Old friend in the portal.
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We certainly didn’t miss on him
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
We certainly didn’t miss on him
Yeah, I can’t recall any guys where we had them decommit that ended up being great.
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Portal at 400+
CJ Noland leaving OU after 2 seasons.
John Hugley leaving Pitt.
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High scoring guards Khalif Battle of Temple & Jameer Nelson Jr of Deleware (yes that’s Jameer’s son) in the portal.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Portal at 400+
CJ Noland leaving OU after 2 seasons.
John Hugley leaving Pitt.
A Pitt player announced while they are still in it? That’s team spirit!
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Believe he was already designated to transfer out earlier in the year but it couldn’t be official until this week. Only played in 8 games and none since December. Averaged 14 and 8 as a sophomore.
Not ideal for sure. What’s Eddie Lampkin’s excuse? TCU has a game this week and he’s in the portal blaming his coach.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
JJ Starling in the portal from Notre Dame. Yes and yes
Syra and cuse
Already confirmed. Nothin’ to see here apparently.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
JJ Starling in the portal from Notre Dame. Yes and yes
Syra and cuse
Already confirmed. Nothin’ to see here apparently.
Was done before he entered the portal. Much like a certain player currently collecting NIL checks in California and KU.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
JJ Starling in the portal from Notre Dame. Yes and yes
Syra and cuse
Already confirmed. Nothin’ to see here apparently.
Was done before he entered the portal. Much like a certain player currently collecting NIL checks in California and KU.
Is this the wing or combo forward we discussed?
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
JJ Starling in the portal from Notre Dame. Yes and yes
Syra and cuse
Already confirmed. Nothin’ to see here apparently.
Was done before he entered the portal. Much like a certain player currently collecting NIL checks in California and KU.
Pretty sure about Ingram?
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@dylans Feel good about him but not him in this case. Think if we do get both, those are our starters at the 3/4 next year. Good kids, smart, tough.
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I still have eligibility left guys, should I enter?
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@kjayhawks Since I played 1 year of college hoops at a tiny college I probably can announce I’m entering the portal.
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@wissox let’s open a dual recruitment and see what happens lol
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@kjayhawks I’m slow, short, and old so hopefully you can be my decoy so my deadly jumper is wiiidddeee open
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KU is losing 3 for sure to the NBA. We have 3 recruits coming in.
With the scholarship reduction, at least 1 player has to transfer out to be in compliance next season. Cam Martin, Zach Clemence, and Kyle Cuffe all seem like safe bets at this point to leave. KU would have 2 roster spots to play with in regards to Adams and the portal for next season if those 3 all transfer out.
I’d very strongly prefer Adams stay in the '24 class and Self go get two big time scorers at the wing and 4 spots because KJ and Udeh are not playable next to each other for long stretches. Neither has any range and don’t compliment Self’s desire for a 4 guard line up.
If we get more transfers, Rice, Pettiford, and Yesufu all seem like possibilities. I’d love to see Rice stay because he has the possibility to fill one of those positions of need as a high scoring wing, but not something I’d be willing to bet on for next season though at this point.
If one of those 3 also transfer out, then having Marcus Adams reclassify and come in as a back up would make more sense.
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Another Red Raider in the portal, this time KJ Allen. They have a mess on their hands
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@dylans Feel good about him but not him in this case. Think if we do get both, those are our starters at the 3/4 next year. Good kids, smart, tough.
Who are you talking about… Ingram and?
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@Woodrow He isn’t in the portal yet so I’m behaving. Barely. Kinda.
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Skyy Clark to Louisville. Match made in heaven
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Kowacie Reeves in the Portal for Florida, formely a 4 star prospect. I have been intrigued with this one for a bit. So Athletic, can shoot a bit. Hasn’t had a coach to put it all together but a kid with high upside I think still.
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More Power 5 transfers
Dontrez Styles- UNC
Roosevelt Wheeler- Louisville
Niels Lane- Florida
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
More Power 5 transfers
Dontrez Styles- UNC
Roosevelt Wheeler- Louisville
Niels Lane- Florida
Nope nope and nope.
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Whoever said Jaemyn Brakefield above, I agree with that. He’d be nice fit here. Not a sniper like Gradey, but 35% from deep is good enough to keep defenses honest. Don’t think I’d want him headlining the transfer class, but as the no. 2 guy, he’d be a nice get since he’s a proven double digit scorer in a P5 conference. Biggest downside to Brakefield is he’s not a good defender at all.
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Another wing I would be extremely interested in is Chris Ledlum from Harvard. Not a 3 point shooter (sub 30%), but averaged 18.8 ppg and 8.5 rpg last season. He’s also an above average defender. I doubt he’d duplicate those numbers here against Big 12 competition, but he could be a #2 scorer for KU next season. Coming from Harvard, you know he’s smart and would likely be able to pick up Self’s system pretty quickly.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Whoever said Jaemyn Brakefield above, I agree with that. He’d be nice fit here. Not a sniper like Gradey, but 35% from deep is good enough to keep defenses honest. Don’t think I’d want him headlining the transfer class, but as the no. 2 guy, he’d be a nice get since he’s a proven double digit scorer in a P5 conference. Biggest downside to Brakefield is he’s not a good defender at all.
I LOVE his skill set. Would imagine that he will be in high demand.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Another wing I would be extremely interested in is Chris Ledlum from Harvard. Not a 3 point shooter (sub 30%), but averaged 18.8 ppg and 8.5 rpg last season. He’s also an above average defender. I doubt he’d duplicate those numbers here against Big 12 competition, but he could be a #2 scorer for KU next season. Coming from Harvard, you know he’s smart and would likely be able to pick up Self’s system pretty quickly.
He was on my mid season watch list. I have not heard that we contacted him.
I know of two that we have contacted and are serious about but neither is in the portal yet. Both rate higher than anyone currently in the portal if you look at evanmiya.com One name has been mentioned directly on the board (Harrison Ingram) the other I think has circulated to most via dms.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Another wing I would be extremely interested in is Chris Ledlum from Harvard. Not a 3 point shooter (sub 30%), but averaged 18.8 ppg and 8.5 rpg last season. He’s also an above average defender. I doubt he’d duplicate those numbers here against Big 12 competition, but he could be a #2 scorer for KU next season. Coming from Harvard, you know he’s smart and would likely be able to pick up Self’s system pretty quickly.
He was on my mid season watch list. I have not heard that we contacted him.
I know of two that we have contacted and are serious about but neither is in the portal yet. Both rate higher than anyone currently in the portal if you look at evanmiya.com One name has been mentioned directly on the board (Harrison Ingram) the other I think has circulated to most via dms.
I’ve seen Ingram’s name, and I think I know the other name you’re talking about, but could be someone else. I’m just not that enamored with Ingram. He not a great shooter, and is a bad defender. He is a good passer and sets others up well and would be an solid option in pick and roll, but I think there’s better options out there that we could attract if we made a push for a 4.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Kowacie Reeves in the Portal for Florida, formely a 4 star prospect. I have been intrigued with this one for a bit. So Athletic, can shoot a bit. Hasn’t had a coach to put it all together but a kid with high upside I think still.
Kowacie mentions interest from KU among a million others. Knew he’d be in demand
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Kowacie Reeves in the Portal for Florida, formely a 4 star prospect. I have been intrigued with this one for a bit. So Athletic, can shoot a bit. Hasn’t had a coach to put it all together but a kid with high upside I think still.
Kowacie mentions interest from KU among a million others. Knew he’d be in demand
Big no for me. Also have to think Georgia is the favorite there.
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Imo he’s much better then some bench options we have currently. He’s not what we need in terms of ready made scorers. I do think he has some potential to be really good in the right system. Certainly Georgia should be in that
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Just under 600 in one week in the portal
Roughly a dozen teams have lost anywhere from 6 to 8 players to the portal each. Pretty insane turnover.
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I hate the portal. This idiocy has to stop. Make kids have to sit a year. It never made sense to me why they changed the rules. It’s ruining basketball and it’s going to cause coaches to leave. Not to sound like an arrogant blue blood fan, but why would a kid get a coveted schollie to KU and then leave?
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Portal or not, I like the idea of transfer without having to wait.
If coaches can move instantaneously without any warning for higher pay, players should be able to do the same.
Many players develop relationships with coaches during recruiting and if coaches move on players should be allowed as well and not get penalized.
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@wissox said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
I hate the portal. This idiocy has to stop. Make kids have to sit a year. It never made sense to me why they changed the rules. It’s ruining basketball and it’s going to cause coaches to leave. Not to sound like an arrogant blue blood fan, but why would a kid get a coveted schollie to KU and then leave?
It’s benefiting KU greatly. Next year would be guaranteed to be unpleasant with the old portal rules.
The whole thing is a business and always has been. Contracts are year to year. KU definitely chose to not renew some contracts this year. Guys that should have been asked to leave after last season IMO, which we felt this year with the lack of a bench.
@AsadZ Agree.
Some players do come for the school but that is much rarer. It’s typically about the coach in addition to $.
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I get the frustration with the portal.
I think it has done good, obviously the underbelly can be no fun when it comes to NIL impact and tampering etc. I do think it’s benefitted KU positively. You still have to have a program built which Self has so I don’t see a big issue in our view.
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@wissox I hate the lack of loyalty, but it goes both ways. I’m just glad that KU is in a position to take advantage of the transfer rules. Imagine if you’re saint marys school for the blind and you develop Shaq for a couple years before Duke buys him in free agency to win a championship.
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@AsadZ So if a coach leaves then those players of his and of the team he’s moving to are eligible to transfer without sitting a year. Is that a solution? IDK, but some of these teams are like the Pirates of MLB which is now all the power players in the league’s farm system. I’d be pissed to be Bob Huggins in developing someone like Tschiebwe and see him move to one of the blue bloods (I know, try to hold back our laughter).
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In most cases when a coach leaves, those players will receive waivers to transfer regardless of their transfer status before that (had they used the 1-time waiver). I haven’t seen or remember an example of a player being denied a transfer due to that issue.
It probably will happen where a player gets poached from KU in the future that we don’t want to lose but that hasn’t happened yet. I think it’s important to note that KU’s program is desired and we have the reputation to recruit talent here. As long as Self is here I imagine that will continue.
