Stop the streak



  • @Crimsonorblue22 said in Stop the streak:

    @BeddieKU23 he has fouled out several times. 🙏

    Bout our only hope.



  • @benshawks08 I agree it is probably unlikely it happens.

    But I don’t know what else they can do to crank up the defense without significant changes in minutes. Opponent turnovers are WAY down since B12 play started. Switching everything has been scouted.

    The stretch from Tennessee to Harvard we forced 18.8 turnovers per game and 12.6 steals per game.

    In Conference play we are only forcing 12 turnovers a game and are only stealing 7.5 balls a game.

    I will say that almost all of those steals came from the starters… So the bench is an issue regardless. But we have to change our game a bit because teams are running whatever action they want against the switch everything D as it is so predictable. And they are getting the looks they want. KSU did it with Sills. TCU got everything they could ever have wanted with everyone on that team. And Baylor just did it with Flagler and Cryer.



  • @BeddieKU23 said in Stop the streak:

    @Crimsonorblue22 said in Stop the streak:

    @BeddieKU23 he has fouled out several times. 🙏

    Bout our only hope.

    I’m honestly more worried about the Toppin matchup. Oscar will get his. But what can we do to stop Toppin just going over the top of guys? That is what killed us last year. Toppin and Brooks just Kareem’d us to death in the paint. Didn’t have anyone who could get up enough to bother them.



  • Self likes to win every game and I’ll say he wants to especially beat coach Cal even though all these top coaches are competitive and will say it’s just another game. He puts guys in trying to win but in the end it’s the players who make the plays or don’t. Ta Da it’s Captain Obvious. If we cold start again I’ll be worried and hope we don’t look over matched.



  • @BeddieKU23 worth a shot, Wilson’s pretty good at drawing fouls, maybe gradey? Usually backfires on him.



  • @Kcmatt7

    I don’t think KU can win if they don’t control the glass and actually make shots on the other end. This is another bad matchup at the worst time. All I can do is hope they have had enough of losing and change their ways.



  • @Crimsonorblue22

    KU is currently 219th in the country in FT attempts per game.

    Gradey & Kevin went 14-14 from the line in the Baylor game. Jalen as you mentioned gets to the line. Guys will have to prove it



  • @Kcmatt7

    I like the idea of pressing and using 10 players. I don’t think Self will go that way… and if he did… we stand the chance of a complete breakdown if we don’t execute.

    There is a danger of running presses… and that is having it break down and lead to easy scoring. It can also add to removing team structure by adding chaos and that can impact both ends of the court.

    Add on top of this… Self has never been a coach that uses presses. Not sure why since he stresses defense. Perhaps he just isn’t much of a believer in the results except to use sparingly.

    I think what you are asking is something that should have been decided in the fall when there was time to adequately train with this mindset. Full-court pressing is also a mindset!

    What I like about pressing… it gets your team turned up (just like Self’s technical fouls, lol). It’s a way to change the tempo and suddenly get our opponents out of their comfort zone.

    We are failing to get our opponents out of their comfort zone!



  • Do we all remember early in this season when it was stated that this would be a real open-court team?! We were going to keep a super fast pace?!

    I don’t see it now at all. I see a typical Self team.

    I believe we would heavily benefit by pushing tempo on offense. Getting up shots before teams are set. Running slow offense, after the defense gets set, and then hoping we break them down after making the extra pass can work… or it can just push us into making bad choices as the time clock runs out. I’d like to think we can do well running fast or slow… but I know for sure we aren’t running enough fast offense lately!



  • Slowing the tempo down for conference games has ground us down. We will win if we run; we will lose if we don’t.



  • @nuleafjhawk said in Stop the streak:

    @Jethro WAIT! - Maybe they HAVE been smoking weed before the game. If that’s the case, they should stop.

    Oh man. Thats funny.



  • Some great reasoning in this thread - looking forward to seeing what adjustments the staff makes



  • I hope this is just a slump and honestly it’s the best time for a slump so I’m still not panicking.



  • @benshawks08 said in Stop the streak:

    I hope this is just a slump and honestly it’s the best time for a slump so I’m still not panicking.

    We played right into their hands with double digit deficits.



  • How many times have we seen KU slump around this time and bounce back in February? We know this team is capable of playing elite defense amd once they get back to that, that’s when the ship gets righted. Focus on effort on the defensive end and let the offense flow from that.



  • You sure can tell our 3 game streak is HUGE around the Nation - All I’m hearing is KU 3 game losing streak -3 game losing streak for KU - If Self loses tonight they say be 1st time in Self era - mercy I’m tired of hearing that



  • Tennessee is the best team



  • Watching Ark vs Baylor I swear I said shut the eff up Fran until my wife put it and me on mute.



  • Don’t feel great about the game tonight.



  • @BShark said in Stop the streak:

    Don’t feel great about the game tonight.

    I don’t think realistically not very many do



  • The bottom line is we have JUST GOT to stop digging such a huge dam hole to try and get out of early in these games- -has to STOP



  • Juan turnover the “jump pass” like a jr higher

    Gosh man if he’s gonna be this bad the rest of the year like he was most of last year we aren’t going anywhere



  • Let’s go Juan!!! SHOOT IT LIKE THAT



  • Juan shutting me up let’s go!!!



  • /thread



  • Guys dug in defensively like many above suggested and we boarded extremely well which allowed us to run like @Jethro said. I agree when we board and can run we are at our best.

    What a win



  • UK was 5th in the Nation in offensive rebounding at like 14 per game - - they got 5 - -ZERO 2nd chance points - - -ZERO - - the guys really got after it last night. - -Now when we play like that - -THIS is the guys that I think can make a serious push at another title.

    Another big thing I love we got to see our Bench -Udeh - - Zuby - -& MJ - and they all did something anyways. Hell Udeh got 12 minutes - -those 12 minutes are huge - -Zuby would of played more if he hadn’t messed up his ankle - -only ONE question ? - - Where was Zach ? - -that to me tells me something


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