Squid Game (Thread)
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Wow. Don’t even know where to start on this. We can only hope this is a huge motivator
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When we gt beat this bad -I don’t even get worked up – no reason. Lot worse when we lead for almost an entire game and then lose it to someone. - Of course that hasn’t happened much but just sayin. Bout the only thing you can say about this is - - - -WELP
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The Curse of #GameDay
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@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
I hate seeing them laugh at us.
We had every chance to prevent that and we did nothing. Maybe getting humiliated will change things a bit. We can only hope.
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time to bust open some Platinum
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A good wake up call for sure. I still think these guys are playing at 80% most of the time
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They have 17 rebound advantage. Needed a big team effort and didn’t get it.
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Mitch still working
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the only positive if there can be is- - not a league game
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Mitch put in more effort to go after rebounds in 30 seconds than Dave did during all of his minutes…
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Please work on layups.
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At least this is not a tournament game
There is a tomorrow
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@DanR Mitch is only player to be on 6 straight team posters
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Well, they didn’t get to the century mark on us…
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Decent d second half considering cal kept the starters in
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Still have starters in
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We had 0 answers for them athletically. MUST get MJ Rice to Lawrence.
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The question is… How can Bill self and the team use this… Holy crap
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I’d like to play them again for the championship
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️ Be nice to each other 
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@Bosthawk said in Squid Game (Thread):
The question is… How can Bill self and the team use this… Holy crap
I just don’t know, this team can’t just magically get more athletic. Remy doesn’t answer that either. Joe does to an extent but that ship has sailed in regards to pt.
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Whipped our entire ass. Oh well.
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@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
We had 0 answers for them athletically. MUST get MJ Rice to Lawrence.
Why would he after seeing that
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@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
@Bosthawk said in Squid Game (Thread):
The question is… How can Bill self and the team use this… Holy crap
I just don’t know, this team can’t just magically get more athletic. Remy doesn’t answer that either. Joe does to an extent but that ship has sailed in regards to pt.
Very reminiscent of the USC beatdown…
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@BeddieKU23 Idk have fun play 30 minutes a night. Hope we can beat the GLeague offer.
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This just sucked.
Being a fan can sometimes just be flat out painful.
Wish they were playing tomorrow and can beat the crap out of somebody, anybody, just took wash the stench out of my being
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Hoping for a better outcome tomorrow. GO CHIEFS !
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We just have no 5 men.
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The takeaway from this game for me is we need more talent. Remy was not the answer in this game either it’s not like he is super athletic. Thankful that we (hopefully) have 3 5*s coming in and Zuby is no slouch. Could use another guard though.
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Kentucky only scored 39 in the 2nd half and we still lost by 18. We got problems
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@tis4tim play KJ maybe in the first half…
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@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Kentucky only scored 39 in the 2nd half and we still lost by 18. We got problems
We have extreme problems in the paint and off the bounce. Not gonna get better this year.
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@BShark and Zuby and Udeh but all that doesn’t matter
Bill must play them, trust give, and give them long leashes
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@DanR lol I hope this is sarcasm they just game into our gym and bullied us
Championship…let’s get to the sweet 16 first
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@BShark funny how all those kenpom offensive rankings that were over inflated are coming down to earth. Anyone with an eye could see who this team is and their limitations
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@DCHawker and that falls on one mans shoulders and when he has the athletes he has to play them over his system loving guys who may be in the right place more but doesn’t matter not athletic enough to make the playoffs anyways
We can win 80% of the time or more be close for big 12 and choke in tourney
Or
Bill can actually look at what happened and adjust instead of just talking about it
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@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@tis4tim play KJ maybe in the first half…
As good a coach as Self is, his stubbornness never ceases to rile me up. We know how he does his rotations and he simply won’t change no matter if it is warranted or not.
Remy, Yes, and KJ are going to get limited run at best this season and if you think recruits don’t take note of how Self plays his cards then I’ve got a bridge I’d like to sell you.
I sometimes long for the days when Roy would throw his sport coat into the first few rows and yank all his starters to send a message.
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Really besides trying kj, who else is there?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Really besides trying kj, who else is there?
Not trying, commitment
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@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BShark funny how all those kenpom offensive rankings that were over inflated are coming down to earth. Anyone with an eye could see who this team is and their limitations
The answers are not on the roster though. Maybe Joe with more time but it’s very clear that Remy is not the answer athletically either. Can’t take guys off the bounce except sometimes after he completely sucks the air out of the ball and can’t defend.
The only reason they were 17-2 with such limitations was because of Bill. My biggest gripe is that Mitch plays too much but other than that it’s been about as good as we could hope for considering the roster.
If you are good Bill will play you, Dotson played 1168 minutes as a FR and you can find other examples easily. I am guessing Udeh will have a chance to start at the 5, he is what Self looks for in a 5 man. So hopefully the post issues are solved given we go from Dave/Mitch/KJ to then hopefully Udeh/Zuby/Zach/KJ. Zach with an offseason should hopefully add some strength which is his biggest issue right now (aside from being hurt). I am still not convinced JWill comes back at all.
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Is Zach healthy?
He doesn’t have an answer at the 5 unless he lives with the fact, that he will have to live with the fact he has guys that will be young
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@BeddieKU23 No. Still wearing a boot.
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@tis4tim exactly farmer, bshark, ryan Noel OTOS…all of them can’t deny that Bills stubbornness in his ways does turn recruits off. They watch, they see and other coaches sell against him on this.
Does it mean he’s never played a freshman, no. No need to exaggerate but for almost 20 years there are plenty of better athletes and players that sat behind lesser players who “knew the system”
This is 100% on coach and after his usc press conference I thought he’s got it he’s gonna be a saban and make the adjustments
I was wrong which sucks
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Give Joe, Harris’ leash and we’d be a completely different team with him at the point. He can defend the ball and beat his man off the dribble.
Mitch has had some great minutes, bleeds red and blue but give KJ all of Mitch’s minutes and see where we’d be.
I agree part of this isn’t fixable but in no way did Self do everything in his power to maximize the efficiency of this team. If he’s all about defense like he says then no way he watched this team for months and thought this is gonna give us the best chance to win.
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Feel bad for Zach. He wouldn’t play even if he was healthy
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@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Give Joe, Harris’ leash and we’d be a completely different team with him at the point. He can defend the ball and beat his man off the dribble.
Mitch has had some great minutes, bleeds red and blue but give KJ all of Mitch’s minutes and see where we’d be.
I agree part of this isn’t fixable but in no way did Self do everything in his power to maximize the efficiency of this team. If he’s all about defense like he says then no way he watched this team for months and thought this is gonna give us the best chance to win.
Your idea to fix today was to play a guy who had 0 rebounds in 11 minutes all of the minutes of a guy who had 7 rebounds in 13 minutes in a game where KU got their ass kicked on the glass? Clearly that’s the fix. KJ has a sub 10% defensive rebound rate. That’s not going cut it to fix the issues of a below average rebounding team. Also, Yesufu is not the answer at PG. His PER is 5.9 on the year which is beyond terrible and has a turnover rate of 22% which is actually worse than Harris.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 KJ the same guy who delivered big against tech the best team we’d played prior to Kentucky? Yeah after that 20 point beatdown in the first half you bet KJ getting a few minutes was worth whatever “risk” u presume we lose by not having Dave and Mitch in there to lose rebounds.
You give the most athletic guard on the team the keys and let him go (not including och). He consistently beats his man off the dribble and is athletic enough to stop dribble penetration.
You are 100% correct his turnovers are terrible with pers because if he makes any mistake ANY (wrong switch, poor help, wasn’t in the right position, turns it over) he is immediately pulled even if he just checked in.
You played a sport before? I’ll assume so because you know that if you make one mistake you’re yanked versus the less athletic and talented guy who can make a million and stays in the game…answer me how you’d play?
Tentative and scared is the answer with zero confidence and “hoping” not to make a mistake.
Blowout loss to nova in final 4 Blowout loss to auburn Blowout loss to usc Blowout loss to athletic UK We shall see how the season ends but if it’s another round of 32 or sweet 16 blowout I sure hope Self actually matures and doesn’t “oh not gonna look at this game”
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@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@Texas-Hawk-10 KJ the same guy who delivered big against tech the best team we’d played prior to Kentucky? Yeah after that 20 point beatdown in the first half you bet KJ getting a few minutes was worth whatever “risk” u presume we lose by not having Dave and Mitch in there to lose rebounds.
You give the most athletic guard on the team the keys and let him go (not including och). He consistently beats his man off the dribble and is athletic enough to stop dribble penetration.
You are 100% correct his turnovers are terrible with pers because if he makes any mistake ANY (wrong switch, poor help, wasn’t in the right position, turns it over) he is immediately pulled even if he just checked in.
You played a sport before? I’ll assume so because you know that if you make one mistake you’re yanked versus the less athletic and talented guy who can make a million and stays in the game…answer me how you’d play?
Tentative and scared is the answer with zero confidence and “hoping” not to make a mistake.
Blowout loss to nova in final 4 Blowout loss to auburn Blowout loss to usc Blowout loss to athletic UK We shall see how the season ends but if it’s another round of 32 or sweet 16 blowout I sure hope Self actually matures and doesn’t “oh not gonna look at this game”
Sorry, but handing the keys to an undersized 2 guard and a guy who couldn’t even start a Drake last season is clearly the answer at PG. And in regards to KJ, a guy who has no offensive game and is an absolutely terrible defensive rebounder for a guy who pretty exclusively plays the 5 is not the answer for KU’s issues. I do like him as a defender, but when he can’t rebound his position, it pretty much negates his defense though when teams consistently get multiple chances against him and eventually will score.
I’m also fully aware that KU isn’t likely making past the 1st weekend again this year. A little history lesson for you. I was about the only person here who said USC was going to blow KU out last year because of their athleticism.
I’m also a basketball coach and just won a district championship today. I’m fully aware about giving a player a short leash in games and it almost always comes down to those players being bad or inconsistent in practice as well leading up that game. Go look at Yesufu’s game log from Drake last year, when he came on scoring wise, it was mostly because he became a volume shooter and wasn’t very efficient.
I get your obsessed with athleticism, but the upgraded athleticism KU brought in was in the form of low skilled players which creates a different set of issues we’re going to see rear its head next season most likely which a very low skilled team. Next season is going to be very rough on offense despite the improved athleticism. Next year might be a worse shooting team than last season and potentially an even worse defensive team as well.
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Wow. i think bitch slapped is about the best way to describe today’s game. Unpleasant for sure. exposed us athletically to say the least. No big insights to share, because really the game said it all. I know Wheeler and TyTy didn’t score a ton today, but who would you rather have on the floor, one of them or Harris? He’s just a liability in more ways than he helps. It sucks to have to say for sure, because he’s our guy. I know I hate on Harris a lot, but there should be so many other options on this team other than him. Physically developed guys. Sadly we have really no other PG options on the team. He’s it. Well, OK, Pettiford, but he’s hurt, and lost some development time.
Undeserved rant on Harris i suppose. He wasn’t the only issue today.
Dave’s a spaz still.
