Huggy Bonus Game Thread
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West Virginia with a Season high in Score
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Maybe we are building good karma for late with all these career shooting nights for teams and individuals
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Never seen a Self defense this bad.
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SUPER BOWL SUNDAY - - -GO CHIEFS
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@BShark said in Huggy Bonus Game Thread:
Never seen a Self defense this bad.
We played good defense for a while to start the 2nd half but they just kept making guarded shots and then it all fell apart again.
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WELL NA NA NA NA - - NA NA NA NA - - HEY HEY GOOD BYE - -rankings it’s been good ride
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@tundrahok the switch everything on defense is what is killing his d. Makes his defense useless
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@BShark said in Huggy Bonus Game Thread:
Never seen a Self defense this bad.
Never seen a self offense this bad
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Bottom half of the league hurts.
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He will be valued and taken care of next yr. It just won’t be here.
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@Kcmatt7 Yes, but they might do something different if our best defensive player didn’t have to run the offense too.
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here is a little shout out to the Big twelve teams - - ya go ahead - - kick this dog NOW while he is down THIS year , cause I’m tlling ya - -This dog ain’t down for long , so you better hope when you kick him - -kick us hard enought to keep us down - - BECAUSE WHEN WE GET UP - - -LOOK OUT
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Oregon’s floor is awful!
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Seriously, what adjustments have been made by Bill this season?
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@Kcmatt7 said in Huggy Bonus Game Thread:
Seriously, what adjustments have been made by Bill this season?
OBVIOUSLY NOT MAKING LAY UPS
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Have a hard time feeling much of anything about this one. We played really hard. They went out and made a ton of junk. In the past we could weather that because we had the talent, but just don’t have it this year. Only one top 50 player played today (Dave).
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Oh but the 3 best players for West Virginia today were 1 top 100 a juco and who knows what McBride was ranked. Developed talent makes a difference
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Can’t have kids who can’t shoot in today’s game. Just a roster full of them
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Huggy Bonus Game Thread:
Have a hard time feeling much of anything about this one. We played really hard. They went out and made a ton of junk. In the past we could weather that because we had the talent, but just don’t have it this year. Only one top 50 player played today (Dave).
Yeah this is where I’m at with it. Need some dudes. I honestly forgot the game was on today until after it started.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Huggy Bonus Game Thread:
Oh but the 3 best players for West Virginia today were 1 top 100 a juco and who knows what McBride was ranked. Developed talent makes a difference
And we split with them. About what you’d expect given the winner in each had a whacky outlier in shooting
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We are either unlucky getting the outlier shooting nights or the defense is as bad as it looks
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Tyon hurt for the 4th time this year.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Huggy Bonus Game Thread:
We are either unlucky getting the outlier shooting nights or the defense is as bad as it looks
I think it’s a combination of KU giving up some open 3s early allowing teams to get comfortable and then the other team riding that confidence into making tougher shots even when the D does tighten up.
It’s honestly a testament to this team’s will to fight that we don’t get run out of the gym most games after the way they start most games. I mean, we don’t just start most games down 10 points but also down confidence, under pressure, and not in the flow. It’s a LOT of work to get all those things back. I guess they just don’t know how to manufacture the energy needed to be ready to play. Once they get going they can hang with most teams (not beat them obviously as we’ve struggled to really put a dent in the early leads we give up) but we aren’t THAT much worse than the rest of the big 12.
A big part of it is leadership and this team just doesn’t have that. Bill wants it to be Marcus or Dave but they don’t seem to have it in them. I think it should be Och but just may not be his personality. Wilson could be it but just isn’t quite ready. Braun showed some today but is too inconsistent, I think. Enaruna doesn’t play enough which I think many of us would like to see change. But we also wanted Harris to play more and he’s clearly not ready. TGF was another supposed savior but alas. We can hope Thompson will be a spark but I never saw it when he played earlier in the year.
Seems like we have some good guys who play hard and seem to really care but just don’t have that extra little bit to put them over the top. We will beat the bad teams most nights, and may have another surprise win or 2 over better teams but this is pretty much who we are this year.
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There’s only two good defenders on this team so team defense will is going to be subpar. That’s the more concerning issue to me because this team was still supposed to a good defensive team, not as good as last, but still good.
The offense was never going to be the strength of this team so the defense had to step up this year and they’ve failed miserably on that end of the floor.
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This team needs to accept - and Coach needs to do so with them - what it is, a small ball team that needs to pass the ball to damn near the end of every shot clock and D up. Unlike many, I didn’t think that this team would be strong on defense or offense, and I called it early. Let’s face it, having a Doke (the dude was a beast) and Devon going to the bucket at will saved us last year. They were, basically, unstoppable.
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So, are we going to drop out of the top 25 for the first time in ? years? Just sad for this team and our fans.
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We’re spoiled. Team is soft, we’re soft. This is a good wake up call to take nothing for granted.
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@stoptheflop Oh not doubt about it. The defense - even Garrett looked to totally half-ass it on several occasions - was a total no-show the final ten minutes. This team looks like a first round Dance loser.
I have never second-guessed Coach, but why does he refuse to acknowledge this team’s best starting five? Why does he not play Enaruna more? I don’t care what their final stats were, this team cannot with the personnel that they have get into any type of offensive and therefore even defensive flow with McCormack and Garrett starting. It is as simple as that.
On a positive note, we’re not as bad record wise as UK or Duke.
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Instead of spoiled fans, I would characterize us as fans of a program because it consistently puts a competitive and competent team on the floor. I know that is and has been a difficult task that starts with recruitment and ends with wins. That’s what I’ve been a fan of and Coach Self and his staff have been great for many, many years. There’s nothing wrong with pointing out how this team and even Coach Self are different this year. I can’t help but think there is a hangover effect and a loss of drive for most D1 players. A hangover for those players who put great effort into last season, only to see it end so suddenly and without a satisfactory conclusion. Clearly, fans in the stands matter to the players and their level of play. Marcus Garrett is a completely diffierent player this year. Christian Braun doesn’t show up for most games. I can’t figure it out and the coaching staff obviously can’t either.
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@stoptheflop well said. Disappointment and softness I think go hand in hand. I’ve thought of myself as both disappointed and soft throughout this pandemic and vascillate between the two self identifiers pretty fluidly.
There are better times ahead, and I think I’m at the point now where I just look for growth even if it doesn’t translate to tournament success this year.
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Do you see this team making the tournament?
The hawks play 4 games in the next 8 days including two this week against Iowa St, who has played West Virginia and Oklahoma to single digit defeats this week, they are playing better. Oklahoma St downed Texas and already beat us badly. The last 3 games don’t look promising.
Say this team goes 2-5 the rest of the way and has 12 losses going into the Big-12 tourney if they have one. Is a 14-12 team really going to make it?
I guess if the guys are going to have more games in March they will have to find a way to upset some teams
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Are there any linguists on this board? I need an American word for “schadenfreude.” One of the few pleasant results from this horrible D1 season is the pain Kentucky fans are enduring and reading their many solutions and suggestions for their disasterous year, including firing Coach Calipari. I’m not proud of my compulsion to read the Kentucky boards, but it gets me through yet another poor outing by our guys yesterday. KU may stink, but UK is much worse. Just ask their fans. Schadenfreude, since I can’t find any pleasure from our team.
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@BeddieKU23 it never crossed my mind that we might not make the tournament until your post. That’s a bitter pill. Its possible we don’t make it. We have the talent to make it with that schedule, if we play well. I guess we will see.
What a better time to reset all the streaks than a force or nature out of our control.? We didn’t piss our consecutive tourney and top 25 streaks away with too many team cancer OADs, or mass vacations to the league, we held the line! It took a plague to take us down, and there is no shame in that, but maybe there is a weight off our shoulders, off Bill’s shoulders, and an opportunity to turn over new leaves and renew our vows as dedicated fans of Kansas basketball.
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@stoptheflop maybe the phrase “misery loves company” or the terms “comisseration”, or “sadistic”?
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@BeddieKU23 said in Huggy Bonus Game Thread:
Do you see this team making the tournament?
The hawks play 4 games in the next 8 days including two this week against Iowa St, who has played West Virginia and Oklahoma to single digit defeats this week, they are playing better. Oklahoma St downed Texas and already beat us badly. The last 3 games don’t look promising.
Say this team goes 2-5 the rest of the way and has 12 losses going into the Big-12 tourney if they have one. Is a 14-12 team really going to make it?
I guess if the guys are going to have more games in March they will have to find a way to upset some teams
Yes this team will be in the tournament this year. It’ll be the lowest seed KU has been under Self, but yes, this team will make the tournament. KU was projected to be a 5-6 seed before yesterday and will likely end up somewhere in the 8-9 range.
Wins against Creighton, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and West Virginia with no bad losses in the eyes of the committee is a solid resume at this point. 6 of KU’s 7 current losses are to teams projected to be a 5 seed or higher. It also helps that the B12 is currently either 1 or 2 in strongest conferences in the country.
As long as KU doesn’t lose to ISU or KSU, KU will once again be in the NCAA tournament.
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Were gonna make the tourney , I’m not worried about that. Hell right now we are at like a 6 , - - we co uld almost free fall and still be a play-in a very worst. - Would you wanna be a team that plays against KU if we were the winner of a play in game ? - - I wouldn’t
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A journalist answered my earlier question: KU’s 231 weeks in the top 25, back to Feb 2009, will likely come to an end Monday.
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I’m certainly hopeful we make the tournament despite the struggles and the shortcomings. I’m just worried that this team is fractured beyond repair and the pieces just don’t fit and the same issues we have continue to be systemic.
It would be really heartbreaking to see them miss the tournament if that even went that road. I’m just seeing its possible with the schedule left. Good thing we have quality wins from earlier in the year. We are not Duke or Kentucky that have very little chance of making it so I can’t imagine what reality those fans are facing. What a whacky year
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@approxinfinity said in Huggy Bonus Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 it never crossed my mind that we might not make the tournament until your post. That’s a bitter pill. Its possible we don’t make it. We have the talent to make it with that schedule, if we play well. I guess we will see.
What a better time to reset all the streaks than a force or nature out of our control.? We didn’t piss our consecutive tourney and top 25 streaks away with too many team cancer OADs, or mass vacations to the league, we held the line! It took a plague to take us down, and there is no shame in that, but maybe there is a weight off our shoulders, off Bill’s shoulders, and an opportunity to turn over new leaves and renew our vows as dedicated fans of Kansas basketball.
Thanks for that perspective. “It took a plague to take us down, and there is no shame in that.” I’m embracing it. If it has to happen, this is the year for it, when everything in the world is weird.
