Trae Young
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@Kcmatt7 But somehow we recruited a stud PG. I would rather have a non-stud PGrecruit who develops into a stud player and gives us great ball for 3 to 4 years, than a stud recruit who leaves after one. And note that even a stud freshman PG can be flummoxed by inexperience when faced with a defense he has not seen, as demonstrated aptly by UK’s.
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@mayjay How do you know what you prefer if you have never seen Bill with one of these guys?
And note that we have that type of guy in Garrett. Landing Duvall or TY is important because we may not have any players at that position next season. So landing a stud recruit is actually quite important right now.
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If Trae wants to go to Oklahoma It’s because he wants to stay with his friends and family which I totally understand. I just hope he knows he’s never going to beat KU or win a conference ship. His fate will be like Myles Turner and Jarrett Allen. Recruits spurning Kansas just to lose to us.
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@SkinnyKansasDude said:
His fate will be like Myles Turner and Jarrett Allen. Recruits spurning Kansas just to lose to us.
Excellent point!
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@BeddieKU23 I would have thought the same thing after Sherron… Just funny to me how things work out.
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@Kcmatt7 It is the amount of time they can give KU.
But I am willing to be convinced if anyone has some info–How many OAD PGs have won NCs compared to PGs in their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th years?
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I think we are definitely still the choice for Young. I’m confident because we absolutely know PG is a position of need, not a luxury. I’m usually pessimistic about recruits especially if the battle is against the hometown school but nothing has changed to the point where we should be overreacting. Until Matt Scott or Jerry Meyer relay some information saying otherwise we should be hopeful he’s going to end up here
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@mayjay The rule began in 2005. So it has a full decade of evidence. Twice has a OAD PG won it all.
- 2015 - Tyus Jones
- 2012 - Marcus Teague
Other times though, teams have been lead to final fours by OAD PGs. Here is a list of those:
- 2008 - Derrick Rose
- 2007 - Mike Conley
- 2010 - Brandon Knight
- 2014 - Andrew Harrison (Wasn’t a OAD but should have been).
So roughly 60% of seasons, a OAD PG has gotten their team to a Final 4. That is pretty damn good.
I want players to stay 3 or 4 years too. I don’t want to recruit a OAD PG every season. But there is a time and a place you need to. We landed a 4 year PG and we have one lined up a few years from now. So this season and next season you hedge your bets on OAD PGs and see what happens.
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Add a OAD PG (Duval) to next years team and hoo boy the buckets would rain.
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@BShark I’d love to see us land Duvall. Absolute stud. Put him in with Svi and Newman and we got ourselves some serious offense. Not to mention Duvall would be a great defender with his size and athleticism.
Not to mention that there are a few teams this year that could easily up the percentage after this season. Arizona, UK and UCLA all look like potential Final 4 teams.
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@Kcmatt7 agree about recruiting an oad. I trust bill to be selective and only take OADs that will help the program. I think he’s getting better at scheduling departures while pulling talent.
I think it was 2011 teague not 2010 knight for your list.
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@Kcmatt7 Well, alrighty, then! I sit corrected!
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@approxinfinity I was off a year on Knight.
And yea I think he has figured out how to land one or two every year at a position of need. And I have no problem with that. It is a way to avoid a down year and give yourself a chance to win a championship every season.
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@Kcmatt7 Im going to take this opportunity to pick on the Harrison twins. Where are they now!? Havent heard or seen anything from them in the NBA. They suck
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@Lulufulu Haha yea they were overhyped quite a bit…
Andrew is a solid rotation piece for the Grizz. Basically took Chalmer’s spot after he tore his Achilles.
Aaron sucks and is a D-leaguer for Charlotte.
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Yeah… where are the Harrison twins?
Oh… I know where they are. They’ve been swept under the Calipari recruiting rug! Guess he can’t really prepare players for the next level. (what a joke)
Gosh… and after all of that “love.”
Kentucky Fan Not Picky About Which Harrison Twin She’ll Marry
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MATT SCOTT UPDATES CHECK 247.
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I saw them. good to know the visit was really just a bunch of coincidence’s getting in the way.
I am optimistic we’ll see him for the West Virginia game.
Is that you asking Matt about Smith? I hope we get some intel there
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Would you believe me if I said it was my evil twin?
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I’ll believe anything! haha
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But yeah that’s me. Hoping he knows more about the situation.
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Matt CB’d TCU. Hopefully he comments on his reasoning.
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He made a thread.
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Interesting.
TCU has 6 guards/wings for next year. This should be a no contest if KU turns up the heat
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It is expensive to get a Shiver membership… Jeeze
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Ryan Noel is down on the kid. SIGN HIM UP ON THAT ALONE IMO.
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Scott just changed his pick from TCU to KU.
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He would be a fool to not see the upside in that kid. NBA potential down the line.
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Ryan gonna Ryan at least he didn’t say the kid isn’t “KU level”.
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@BShark said:
Ryan gonna Ryan at least he didn’t say the kid isn’t “KU level”.
True it definitely wasn’t a sunshine pumper post. I think he’s selling the kid a little short here. He’s definitely good enough to play if needed as a freshman. Athleticism and shooting get you a long ways
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I remember him saying if Lucas ever plays much KU is in BIG trouble.
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Yupp, that was classic.
I like Ryan’s willingness to tell it straight but as an elevator of talent I think he focuses too much on thinking kids need to be day 1 studs to compete. You get to KU and never know the rate of development a kid will take. Smith is an example of a kid who has physical talent to play and shooting ability. Positions mean nothing in College Ball now. He can definitely be a wing, can handle the ball. Huntington Prep is chalk full of athletes and Smith has played really well
