Tripper Allen at it again
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@approxinfinity good one
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@BeddieKU23
I was thinking maybe he was just trying to do the kid and play dance but forgot to invite the Elon kid:
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Duke has suspended Grayson Allen indefinitely after the guard intentionally stuck out his leg and tripped an Elon player Wednesday night
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@Statmachine I am not sure what indefinitely will mean. 2 games? 5 games? It will be interesting to see.
Also of interest. How does Coach K allow this kid back in the game after the tripping occurred? I truly feel that Bill Self would sit any player who committed an act like this on the bench for the remainder of the game and then figure out a suspension after the dust settles. Am I wrong?
My vision may be clouded by my love of Coach Self and my contempt for Coach K but to me it seems so classic of who Coach K is and what he stands for. Say one thing and do another. Is there a more self righteous, holier than though coach in all sports? All of the post game shit where he puts his hand on opposing team players chests and the in person congratulations when other teams beat Duke in the tourney. It is so incredibly fake and self serving. I would love to write an entire thread about this at some point but maybe I should focus more on the positives of having Self as our coach and less about how much I dislike a rival.
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heard Jay Williams was saying how K made him write a letter of apology for faking as if he threw the ball at someoneās face in order to make an inbounds passā¦ How Ks standards have changedā¦
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@joeloveshawks I agree, especially after the tourney loss when he whispered to Brooks last year that he was above that, gag me!
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Iām not sure what is worse here? The now famous dubbed Tripper Allen or Coach K himself.
As someone that just watches the game Coach K seems to have changed in his demeanor. It appears the win at all cost has replaced that civility must be practiced when playing the game.
I know every coach has a moment, that can be questionable. Yet this kid Allen is an obvious problem that hasnāt been dealt with in the least bit until now. That now is the decision has been taken from and made without Coach Kās blessing.
Man maybe those Nike dollars are cursed.
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@approxinfinity said:
heard Jay Williams was saying how K made him write a letter of apology for faking as if he threw the ball at someoneās face in order to make an inbounds passā¦ How Ks standards have changedā¦
I bet Jay Williams wasnāt bawling after being told he had to apologize to the nicer kids.
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Especially with a new babyā¦
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I see this as a huge tarnish on K. Coaches should become wiser over time, not more ridiculous.
It is a case where someone (K) is backing a lunatic. That makes K a lunatic, too.
Maybe he is suffering with āmid-life crisis?ā
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Duke is suspending Allen this year because they can afford to lose him. They have tons of talent, so if the freshmen continue to play well, Allen will stay suspended. If they go into a bit of a tailspin after a couple games, Allen will be back.
Coach K tried to avoid it, but I bet the ACC was threatening a lengthy suspension, with the possibility of more punishment for any future incidents, if Duke did not act first.
Allen is a thug and a punk. He should be suspended at least three games.
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Iāve seen a lot of talk about a 3 game suspension. How convenient will it be if he misses just 3 games which would put him in line to return for road trips against FSU ( a team that has upset them in the past) & Louisville. If Duke really sends a message to Allen I would hope that he isnāt brought back conveniently when the schedule gets tough.
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I am guessing three games because he is a repeat offender that wasnāt suspended before, so he basically gets one game suspensions for each incident, with the ACC telling Duke off the record that if he is involved in any more incidents, he could be suspended for the rest of the season because of his past record. Thatās what I am guessing happens.
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When you buy into the OAD approach to winning you are starting a slippery slope where winning at all costs becomes the only thing. Coach K has adopted this model and his righteousness has gone out the window. He just does not seem to be the coach we knew a while back and many of us respected; he has succumbed to the dark side, AKA the Calipari side/effect, and there is no coming back.
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I would argue that this has always been what Coach K was like. Remember Laettner stomping on the UK player in that Elite Eight game? That was 25 years ago. Coach K didnāt bench him the rest of that game. Didnāt sit him in the national semifinal the next weekend. Didnāt punish Laettner at all.
That was well before anybody knew that OAD would ever even be a thing.
Coach K has long been the beneficiary of the narrative that his teams play āhardā and play āthe right wayā, but the truth is that Duke flops and pouts and pushes when the refs arenāt looking and throws tantrums when things donāt go their way, and if the jerseys said Coastal Carolina or Campbell or Charlotte on them instead of D-U-K-E, the reaction would be much, much different.
When Dukeās players yell at opponents they are āintenseā instead of ālosing their composure.ā When they flop they are āsacrificing their body.ā When we hear those words used, it puts a positive spin on their silliness, and everyone buys into Duke being āright.ā If UNLV had done the same under Tark, or Michigan had done the same with the Fab 5, the narrative would not have been āintenseā and āsacrificing their body.ā
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Jay Williams that played for Coach K disagrees with you and compares the old coach with the new version. I used to respect the Coach K with the higher standards but I donāt care for the new one with lowered ones.
I agree with a lot of the characterizations about Duke and its players but those were done by the media and not by Coach K. Yes, we can take incidents and say that he was always that way. If this is the case, should we say that Coach Self does the same thing because he did not sit EJ for the rest of the game after the famous nut hit? How about Coach Knight? He himself got physical with players and yet many consider him one of the best because not only his teams did well on the court but most of the players graduated as well. I could go onā¦
There is really no right or wrong answer since it depends on individual perspective.
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@JayHawkFanToo coach knight was so old school, he didnāt care what others thought nor did he act like his
Didnāt stink. My boys would play for him anytime. They canāt stand the holier than thou coach k.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I am not willing to forgive him for his Puerto Rico antics. I would be willing to if he ever admitted he was wrong.
Much much worse to me as an indicator of character was how he treated Steve Alford for being willing to take the IU job. It really did seem like he thought Alford should sacrifice his own future because Knight (yeah, I called him that, think heāll come scream at me?) felt he was so wronged.
Both incidents, and many more, pretty much seem like the acts of someone who thinks his ā donāt stink much.
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@HawkChamp I apologize for my language but it needs to be saidā¦againā¦ Allen is a flipdippitydadgumming punk and he should be kicked off the team. 3 times!? 3. Coach K needs to be disciplined too for not having the balls to give one of his star players naught but a slap on the wrist the first two times, thereby enabling the 3rd time!! Unconscionable behavior.
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@approxinfinity Your site, how about editing and cleaning it up. This is kubuckets not that other site.
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Alright. Since you asked @brooksmd and itās not just me. Flanders special coming right up
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Sorry peeps. My disdain for Duke multiplied x 10 with this latest incident. I let my emotion showā¦Iāll keep it clean from now on k?
Love the edit!! Freeking hilarious
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@Lulufulu good decision!
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@Lulufulu np. Itās amazing how K just canāt seem to accept responsibility the last couple years.
āItās a learning experience,ā Krzyzewski told The Dan Patrick Show. āIām going to use it as that, as a teaching moment. And a teaching moment does not stop by giving one game. Or maybe thatās what it is. I donāt know that right now.ā
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I forgot to check Truth about Dukeās Facebook page after we beat them. Nice to see they were loving on some Frank. Canāt think of a better poster child for ripping out Blue Devil hearts.
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Baylor is 3rd and we are 4th now, after they didnāt lose to a few more teams.
Here is the ESPN reasoning for it. They never fail to concoct artificial stats to support the false supremacy of Duke. Oh right. This was about Baylor.
The Bears beat Texas Southern, extending their nonconference home winning streak to 43, which is second in the country to Dukeās 133. The last loss to a non-Big 12 team in Waco was Northwestern on Dec. 4, 2012
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Merry Christmas, Tripped-out Allen!
Here is your holiday turkeyā¦ specially bred without legs so clowns like you canāt trip it.
I thought you could relate to a mindless turkey.
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I understand Coach Knight cannot go to Puerto Rico. Last I heard the criminal charges against him were never dropped and they are still active unless some statue of limitations kicked-in in the last couple of years.
