The Game before Silvio comes back.
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@kjayhawks said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
@Texas-Hawk-10 spot on buddy, I’m not gonna play the blame game on the first game at this point. But I’ve seen veteran officials push a guy back from standing over someone and T’ing them up instantly. The officials hopefully are prepped by the conference to call a fair but tight game and I’d bet that’s the case. As mentioned above, I wouldn’t be shocked to see the KSU players foul hard and try to instigate a brawl. Their is their worst in 20 years and over before this game even tips. Also I’d like to add that Self has not reinstated Silvio to this point, I bet it comes before the B12 tournament. I think it’s good he won’t be there but I bet the Love guy will be on KSUs bench or right behind it Saturday.
The Big 12 suspended Silvio until the Tech game, so he won’t travel to the octagon of room
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They do have metal detectors, right?
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@Crimsonorblue22 If someone contacted me to let me know I had been awarded the opportunity to attend the KU/KSU game for free and to sit on the KU bench next to Bill Self throughout the game and join in the huddle, you still couldn’t get me there at gun point.
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bcjayhawk said:
@Crimsonorblue22 If someone contacted me to let me know I had been awarded the opportunity to attend the KU/KSU game for free and to sit on the KU bench next to Bill Self throughout the game and join in the huddle, you still couldn’t get me there at gun point.
Why??
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@Woodrow I don’t trust KSU to have enough metal detectors or an adequate security plan. We all remember when Jamari got mugged and Self got pushed into the scorer’s desk. That happened in a “normal” KU/KSU game. The one Saturday comes after the unfortunate events at their last meeting in AFH.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I don’t know about metal detectors, but they do have cow patty detectors at every exit gate. That is a sacred commodity in Manhattan and it is not to be taken out of the Octagon of Dumb.
And they have cattle prods if anything starts to get out of hand.
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People are drastically being over the top on this subject. To say you are scared to go to the game because there is not going to be enough metal detectors??! You think KSU fans are going to be bring guns to the game seeking some sort of revenge. Good grief.
Also, Jamari got bumped not mugged.
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I had friends that got bottles and trash thrown at them, during the game, then shoved by crowds on the way out. No security officers did anything. These weren’t kids. They won’t go back.
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@Woodrow said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
People are drastically being over the top on this subject. To say you are scared to go to the game because there is not going to be enough metal detectors??! You think KSU fans are going to be bring guns to the game seeking some sort of revenge. Good grief.
Also, Jamari got bumped not mugged.
bumped? - - - -BUMPED ? - - - BUMPED ! ! ! LOL, thanks buddy that was a good one ,made my day - Shoved - - pushed - -whatever the hell you wanna call it - -no place for it, the punk seemed to be running just the OPPOSITE direction he should of been running to join the idiots on center court.
Jamari did a lot better then I would have this idiot come pushing me like that and it would of been - - GAME ON - -I’d be all over this punk " ugly on ape "- -
Never understand why fans bum rush the court, in reality all your doing is demeaning the victory you just made. - fricken act like you belong, rushing the court like that is taking away from what you team just accomplished ACT LIKE YOU BELONG. –
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@nuleafjhawk said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
I hope we win 114 - 36 with the last play of the game being a 50’ lob to Doke for a two handed jam that shatters the backboard. Then Doke goes to the other end of the court and hangs on the rim.
THAT would be - Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet - - ! ! ! ! ! - -love to see that at Silo Tech. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Hey - let’s get a convoy to the game this weekend:
Well, we rolled up Interstate 70 Like a rocket sled on rails.
We tore up all of our stat sheets,
And left ‘em settin’ on the scales.
By the time we hit ManCrappy town,
Them bears was a-gettin’ smart:
They’d brought up some reinforcements
From the Kansas National Guard.
There’s armored cars, and tanks, and jeeps,
And rigs of ev’ry size.
Yeah, them chicken coops was full’a bears
And choppers filled the skies.
Well, we shot the line and we went for broke
With a thousand screamin’ trucks
An’ eleven long-haired Friends of Jesus
In a crimson and blue micro-bus.
Well, we laid a strip for the Bramlage shore
And prepared to cross the line
I could see the court was lined with cats
But I didn’t have a dog-goned dime.
I says, "dylans, this here’s nuleafjhawk . “We just ain’t a-gonna pay no toll.”
So we crashed the gate doing ninety-eight
I says “Let them truckers roll, 10-4.”
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@Woodrow said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
People are drastically being over the top on this subject. To say you are scared to go to the game because there is not going to be enough metal detectors??! You think KSU fans are going to be bring guns to the game seeking some sort of revenge. Good grief.
Also, Jamari got bumped not mugged.
KSU has been reprimanded multiple times for not having a proper security plan in place for end game scenarios. I wouldn’t expect guns or weapons to be brought in, but the safety concerns inside the arena are valid given the history of security issues inside Bramlage.
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@nuleafjhawk that was hilarious!! I heard that song today too
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@FarmerJayhawk Right what I’m saying is that Bill Self hasn’t reinstated him from his indefinite suspension. That could end at the same time as the B12’s suspension but Self hasn’t indicated that to this point. Meaning Self could sit him out longer. Also Silvio could sit behind the KU bench at home games but doesn’t because he doesn’t want to be a distraction.
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@kjayhawks said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
@FarmerJayhawk Right what I’m saying is that Bill Self hasn’t reinstated him from his indefinite suspension. That could end at the same time as the B12’s suspension but Self hasn’t indicated that to this point. Meaning Self could sit him out longer. Also Silvio could sit behind the KU bench at home games but doesn’t because he doesn’t want to be a distraction.
Could, but won’t. KU concurred with the Big 12 and that’s that.
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@kjayhawks said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
@FarmerJayhawk Right what I’m saying is that Bill Self hasn’t reinstated him from his indefinite suspension. That could end at the same time as the B12’s suspension but Self hasn’t indicated that to this point. Meaning Self could sit him out longer. Also Silvio could sit behind the KU bench at home games but doesn’t because he doesn’t want to be a distraction.
I believe the phrasing Self used at the time was that Silvio was suspended indefinitely pending the outcome of the B12 investigation which determined a 12 game suspension. Silvio will be back in uniform once his suspension is completed.
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@FarmerJayhawk I’ve yet to read or hear anything about about Self saying he would be back after Saturday. Yes KU accepted the punishment, but that’s all I’ve heard on the matter.
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@wrwlumpy said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
Right. He was bumped… Of course it should not have happened but some KU fans like to drastically over exaggerate what happened there
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I’ve been to numerous KU games at Bramledge and have never had any issues other than some annoying fans talking shit the time KSU won.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 @FarmerJayhawk maybe I’m just reading into too much. We’ll find next week!!
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I’m anxious to see if it is really true that there will be a “chair ban” in Bramledge (meaning no chair graphics or anything promoting the chair). I have my doubts that KSU security and administration can actually apply a decent security strategy. They’ve failed before and they will probably continue to fail.
This should have been authorized through conference officials.
What our guys need to know is they must keep their heads on and up straight and not let a school with a losing program bring them down to their level, risking all potential for a national title. That will be their main goal on Saturday… to bring us down.
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@drgnslayr I’ll be disappointed if there really is a chair ban. That’s perfect rivalry ribbing. Way better than the normal f’ KU chant or calling it gay U. We earned the “chair retribution” (as long as it’s verbal) and better thicken up that skin!
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The lyrics don’t pertain, but the title…
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@dylans @drgnslayr I’d bet money they have some stool or chair shirts and stuff.
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Gonna be pretty interesting to hear what squeaky has to say about the game this weekend on his weekly show tonight. - - gonna have to take a minute to listen. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Guys, I’m not looking forward to this weekend really. We have everything possible going against us Saturday # 1 were Suppose to be a rival - - but in order for it to be a real rival , one team has to beat the other more then once in a blue moon- - # 2 They have had a crappy season - - # 3 We had our little Royal Rumble at the Phog when we played earlier this Season- - # 4 - -Were Ranked # 1 in the Nation - - # 5 Their idiot fans and that hole is gonna be jacked beyond reason , we think LAST year was loud and rowdy? - - probably twice that this year. - - # 6 - -this whole scenario is like a smoking powder keg , and what they perceive as anything rough from KU - -just gonna add up. EVERYTHING that could go wrong against us for this game is right there.
The only thing is , The talent difference is SO one sided - - Huge Gap between the two. We just literally need to gout in a business type approach and take control from the get go. – kick them right square in the , you know where and just take it. Then go home, let them know that they just got their as beat like a drum - - -that’s what I’m hoping for anyways. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I hear you. But this situation quickly got out of hand in AFH and now goes to the other side, where they have a lifetime of tortured beatings (on the court) needing to be vented.
I feel certain that there has been constant communication between the schools and the league, and a plan was put into place to squelch any opportunities for a repeat of what happened in AFH.
What I am curious of… if something happens again, can our league smack us with suspensions reaching into March Madness? I wouldn’t think that is within their legal reach, but not sure.
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@drgnslayr It was the players that got out of hand not the fans. I just don’t see it being a problem as long as KU thumps KSU and keeps the fans in the stands. Maybe I’m naive, but I’ve been to Manhattan it’s not at all scary. Just a big little town full of middle class midwesterners.
I genuinely hope for an extremely hostile crowd. I want to see what our guys are made of. It should be like the home crowd cheering you on to hear jeers on the road.
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Let’s give them the bad end of a Aggieville bar beat down.
Metaphorically, of course!
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I like rivalries and I like your idea of toughening the troops.
I just want to know they will be safe and KSU has had security failures in the past.
I agree with others… the best thing to do is take the crowd out of the game by giving them a complete beat down!
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@Bwag said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
Let’s give them the bad end of a Aggieville bar beat down.
Metaphorically, of course!
Speaking of, the KSU hoops team was involved in an Aggieville bar fight last weekend according to a friend who was in there at the time. Seems like a pattern.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
@Bwag said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
Let’s give them the bad end of a Aggieville bar beat down.
Metaphorically, of course!
Speaking of, the KSU hoops team was involved in an Aggieville bar fight last weekend according to a friend who was in there at the time. Seems like a pattern.
Like a story I told about a personal experience I had in 2008/2009. Long story short the team jumped me and 2 others and the cops did nothing. They said that we were lucky that WE didn’t get charges pressed on us.
Stupid ass trash town with stupid ass people.
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I am just NOT getting a good feel for this game tomorrow with k-Straight and their idiot fans - there is a couple here that don’t think it is a big deal , cool that’s one opinion and your entitled, BUTI fully think that this thing could get ugly in so many ways.
I’m sure that Coach Weber & Coach Self have Both made it perfectly clear to the players to act responsible, that they are representing the University I’m not concerned about the players themselves. - -It’s the moron K-state fans that has me concerned , this is a smoldering brush pile at least as far as these K-State fans go. - -ANYTHING - - the least LITTLE THING could get these idiots out of control. - -They we have to play their. - - little 85 yr old song - -what’s it called again? , where they all get to bouncing around like a wild batch of bunny rabbits in heat? - -ya that one. I’m just ready to get this dam thing over with , kick their ass and move on to our next game. - - - They better have a plan in place instead of the false front where they have security lined around the court and then when time comes it’s like - - OLAY- let me step aside so you can bull rush some KU player or staff. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Coach Weber have control? Ah did u see diarrhea yell and clap at him? And remember he told them last time to back off?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
Coach Weber have control? Ah did u see diarrhea yell and clap at him? And remember he told them last time to back off?
like I said I’m just ready to be done with this Circus Actually worried about one of our players getting hurt in this thing in some form or another
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I can’t wait. Gonna be fun…until KU goes up 20. 🥱 at that point. I’d love to see Teahan splashing threes at the end of the game though.
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@dylans “Gonna be fun…until KU goes up 20.”
At the 5 minute mark of the first half…
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Will Saturday’s game produce more fireworks after what happened in the first game?
“I don’t think so,” Self said. “But it will obviously heighten the energy on the court.”
Added Weber: “You can’t do anything about [last month’s fight]. You just hope they play the right way on Saturday. I hope they’ll be shaking hands after the game.”
Weber won’t take any responsibility here. Almost makes it seem like a KU problem. Bruce’s deflection game is strong. Pussy…perfect.
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/preview?gameId=401169764
I miss the good ole days of the streak. No not the nationally adored conference win streak. I mean the no losses in Brambledge coliseum streak. The no losses in Manhattan from 83-07 streak was fun to rub in the mild cats faces when they got too rowdy back in the day.
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@dylans said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/preview?gameId=401169764
I miss the good ole days of the streak. No not the nationally adored conference win streak. I mean the no losses in Brambledge coliseum streak. The no losses in Manhattan from 83-07 streak was fun to rub in the mild cats faces when they got too rowdy back in the day.
You mean in Allen Field House West right ? lol we OWNED that Barn
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@dylans we should start a new one today. I haven’t updated my numbers but a couple of years ago we had won 91% of the games VS KSU since 1990 in basketball. They have won a couple since then so it probably like 87% or something but I’ve always called it the most one sided rivalry in all of sports.
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Imagine this… Silvio has taken this time off to get his mind right and will return a different player and starts contributing!
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@drgnslayr said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
Imagine this… Silvio has taken this time off to get his mind right and will return a different player and starts contributing!
Wasn’t that what he was supposed to do last year as well?
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Could he lend his ankle to Dok?
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Well… this is trouble he personally instigated. Maybe it clicks in now?
Just trying to be hopeful, though I’m not holding my breath.
There has to be a reason why his game hasn’t come up. If anything… he declined.
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@drgnslayr said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
Well… this is trouble he personally instigated. Maybe it clicks in now?
Just trying to be hopeful, though I’m not holding my breath.
There has to be a reason why his game hasn’t come up. If anything… he declined.
I appreciate the upbeat thoughts there. I could see that being a factor in some improved play if that’s what it really takes. I’m just surprised the year away from basketball and all that he went through to get eligible wasn’t the kick-starter. What more motivation do you need then that set of circumstances.
Self really did try and give him the opportunity and it wasn’t looking good. I had extremely high hopes for Silvio coming into the season and it hasn’t worked out. Some players have a hard time finding a role here and that’s what he looked like he was struggling to find. It’s disappointing given how much he helped salvage the season 2 years ago.
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My only explanation is he took the year off. That would explain going backwards and losing timing and speed of the game.
At his age and development level, he should have done nothing but climb in his year off. We would have settled for the Silvio we got the first season after January.
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@drgnslayr said in The Game before Silvio comes back.:
My only explanation is he took the year off. That would explain going backwards and losing timing and speed of the game.
At his age and development level, he should have done nothing but climb in his year off. We would have settled for the Silvio we got the first season after January.
Silvio barely played his freshman year. He only played 175 minutes his freshman year. He did not play enough that year for his flaws to be exposed. Silvio only had something like two good games that year. His issues this year were a lack of experience, plain and simple.
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You are right. But I still expect to see a lot more out of a guy with his athleticism and a year to learn Selfball. Our freshmen looked better from the very beginning.
He looked better just walking into the program two years ago.
Guys get redshirted to improve their game. He hasn’t improved and it can be argued that he regressed.
