Liberace Game Thread
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COHawk said:
So any conjecture whether we will have more than 3 players for Saturday’s game?
Worst case is KU would be down Garrett, McCormack, and Silvio. Nobody else on KU even appeared to do anything other than break up the fight.
KU will for sure be without Silvio, and possibly without McCormack.
Doke is going to have to Ironman it out Saturday and Enaruna is probably going to play some 5 as well on Saturday.
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Sure ain’t getting much basketball out of him. So hey. Atleast were getting our money’s worth out of De Sousa for entertainment value… Starring Silvio in Roadhouse 3… How pathetic
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If a player is ejected, isn’t he then suspended for the next game? Or is there an exception to that?
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HighEliteMajor said:
I wonder if Silvio will be suspended with or without pay?
Ok that’s funny
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@bskeet Big boys should be able to handle someone making a dick move. I thought Silvio did great by blocking it.
He should have gone to check if the guy was okay, smiled, and helped him up.
Angry about it after demolishing the guy with the block? That’s a head case problem right there.
If you cannot successfully dribble out 3 seconds when only 2 guys are anywhere near you, ay yi yi.
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bskeet said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
rockchalkwyo said:
I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.
Silvio needed to walk away after the block, that’s ultimately what started everything was Silvio not walking away after the block.
True… although, it could also be argued that the start was the meaningless steal and attempt to score when down by 22 with 2 seconds left…
Sure, but that also happened against Monmouth and nothing escalated after that. Silvio standing over Gordon taunting him is what escalated this and got the KSU bench involved. If Silvio makes the block and walks away, nothing escalates so Silvio standing over Gordon and running his mouth is what started this.
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Different angle.
https://twitter.com/dylannazarian/status/1219823305516912641?s=20
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Ellis from the ESPN saying he thought BOTH Mc Cormack should be done for the year. - I don’t see that happening.
He was also saying WHERE were the KU coach’s - where were the team leaders trying to break it up? - -Obviously he didn’t see Self and Howard -
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@jayballer73 or Case. He’s the guy that flew in to put Love on the deck.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I want to go on record here to admit I was wrong after Monmouth. I said the real embarrassment was our inattention in dribbling out the clock. I said that the only guaranteed outcome was that HCBS would make sure it never would happen again. Sigh…
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jayballer73 said:
Ellis from the ESPN saying he thought BOTH Mc Cormack should be done for the year. - I don’t see that happening.
He was also saying WHERE were the KU coach’s - where were the team leaders trying to break it up? - -Obviously he didn’t see Self and Howard -
I’ll tell you where KU coaches were. On the complete other side of the court!!! By the time they got there KSU’s bench was empty.
Edit: the punishments will be decided quick so in a few days we’ll know whether it’s worth it or not to red shirt Wilson. I still say that prison Mitch should keep it even if David is donzo for the year.
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Well. Atleast this will take the focus off the investigation, eminent suspensions, and post season bans however briefly. Just when ya thought the program couldn’t be any more embarrassed… hold my beer
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DanR said:
Different angle.
https://twitter.com/dylannazarian/status/1219823305516912641?s=20
Actually after seeing this , it was The K-State point guard the Juco getting into it with Silvio 1st and Silvio throwing punches then Love comes in
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@jayballer73 Did you see Webber in the entrance to the tunnel at lower right manhandling one KSU guy out, and then pushing that guy and Love (who scurried like a scared rabbit from the fight he flew into) out of sight?
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It all started with KSU pressing, then fouling hard as hell in a 25 point game with 2 minutes to go and KU having walk ons in.
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mayjay said:
@jayballer73 Did you see Webber in the entrance to the tunnel at lower right manhandline one KSU guy out, and then pushing that guy and Love (who scurried like a scared rabbit from the fight he started) out of sight?
Hey it was Ellis asking NOT me lol
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the return trip to Manhattan should be ummm - - - -interesting to say the least
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This is going to be a nightmare in bramlidge.
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jayballer73 said:
the return trip to Manhattan should be ummm - - - -interesting to say the least
Beat me to it!
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benshawks08 said:
This is going to be a nightmare in bramlidge.
better have lots of security- -nobody going to be safe - - example - -Jamari Traylor
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bskeet said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
rockchalkwyo said:
I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.
Silvio needed to walk away after the block, that’s ultimately what started everything was Silvio not walking away after the block.
True… although, it could also be argued that the start was the meaningless steal and attempt to score when down by 22 with 2 seconds left…
No, that can’t be argued at all. Not one bit. Silvio swatted him. Perfect ending. But then made the choice to be a thug.
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@jayballer73 Still don’t see Dave doing anything but pushing people back.
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@jayballer73 I know, I edited it to show I meant to contrast what Squeaky did, not answer the Ellis q which was about our coaches.
I think Squeaks got Love out so he could avoid arrest.
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I’m sure ESPN is putting all on us, yet covering for Grayson being a complete nut case.
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@kjayhawks ESPN article said Webber told his guys to back off and walked to shake hands when the steal happened. He said it was his and his guys’ fault. Said you need to lose with class and win with class.
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kjayhawks said:
I’m sure ESPN is putting all on us, yet covering for Grayson being a complete nut case.
Wonder why that is?
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Fight lasted longer than McGregor vs cowboy and didn’t cost us $65. So we got that goin for us
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benshawks08 said:
https://twitter.com/nickkrug/status/1219824417427152897?s=21
Of course Nick Krug got THE pic.
The most amazing photo I saw was posted on this site…
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I mean it cost the university alot obviously. But was included in the cable package… So. Winning!!!
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So perhaps the worst decision Self ever made — “Hey, let’s recruit Silvio DeSousa.”
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@HighEliteMajor more and more thinking both men’s days are numbered at Kansas
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Anyone think we can offer to throw SDS back into the ineligible pool in a trade for more lenient treatment in the NOA?
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As much as I hate it, at this point I’d be about ready to let them take self in exchange as well
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@cragarhawk I’m almost at the point where I’d be fine with a change.
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@jayballer73 they don’t know crap
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kjayhawks said:
@jayballer73 Still don’t see Dave doing anything but pushing people back.
You must not of saw where I apologized stating I was wrong , from what I saw in the replay - -Dave was just pulling people and then they said was stepping on people -not sure about that
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cragarhawk said:
Fight lasted longer than McGregor vs cowboy and didn’t cost us $65. So we got that goin for us
lol - - funny but yet - - never mind that was funny lol
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IMHO, SDS felt humiliated at the steal. He at least blocked it but emotions poured forth after frustrating seasons this year and last. Enaruma was probably lectured ceaselessly by HCBS when he let the ball be stolen at the end of a previous game. Who knows how much the lack of playing time has affected his psyche. Not defending his actions but it looked like a lot of anger coming out there…
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NCAA Ejection and Suspension Summary. Penalty – Player is suspended for the remainder of the contest. Penalty – Offending play and Head Coach is suspended for the remainder of contest or if prior to the game the complete game. Penalty – Suspended for the remainder of the contest and the following 3 games. Is this applicable here?
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Just listened to Myron Metcalf’s repot. Saying he had attended many of Bill Self’s post games conference, and when the questioned was posed about Silvio, you could see how it Effected coach Self and saying consequences would be handled tomorrow , Metcalf saying he would be surprised if DeSousa ever played for KU again
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COHawk said:
NCAA Ejection and Suspension Summary. Penalty – Player is suspended for the remainder of the contest. Penalty – Offending play and Head Coach is suspended for the remainder of contest or if prior to the game the complete game. Penalty – Suspended for the remainder of the contest and the following 3 games. Is this applicable here?
I’d say Weber and Love are toast for at least three games.
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@DanR What about our players and coaches?
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@Gorilla72 Totally agree. We’ve done a really poor job at teaching males how to deal with humiliation, frustration, and anger. Myself included.
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@BigBad @cragarhawk FBI, lying, embarrassment at Late Night, now this. Ugh. I’m interested to hear from Self on this.
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Tonight’s game has been sponsored by The Committee for Preservation of Basketball Rivalries. Any lack of competitiveness resulting in an overwhelming disinterest by normal sports fans has hopefully been replaced, as needed, by an entertaining production of nitwits striving to bash each others’ heads. ESPN+ be damned. We want KU-KSU games to stay on the main network for years!
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@jayballer73 that would given me a smidgen if respect back for CS… Who picks up a damn chair? He’s gotta be gone. The end
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@HighEliteMajor remember when we used to talk about how many lil10 titles we’d trade for just one more NC?
It’s evolved into how many would we trade to be rid of all the latest embarrassments. But of course, that doesn’t fit into this era of unaccountability…
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@benshawks08 I learned a long time ago. Very simple. Rule # 1: Run. Rule #2: If running doesn’t work, make a joke. Rule #3: If joke doesn’t work, see Rule #1.
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/r/CollegeBasketball rulebookguy 3 points · 1 year ago They are only suspended for the next game if they participated in the fight. The NCAA Case Book covers this situation. A.R. 276. A6 and B6 leave the bench because a fight has broken out. A6 and B6 do not participate in the fight. RULING: A6 and B6 shall be ejected. No free-throw penalties or technical fouls shall be assessed to A6 and B6 or the coaches of Team A and Team B. Because neither participated in the fight, no fighting penalty or suspension shall be invoked against them. And the NCAA Rule Book talks about suspensions for being involved in the fight in Rule 10-5: Art. 11. The first time an individual participates in a fight during the season (including exhibition games), the individual shall be suspended from participating in the team’s next regular-season game (not an exhibition contest), including tournament competition.
