Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
I don’t think anyone hates this signing. He looks like a stud on film.
Bryce is 1A and this kid is 1B for me in terms of excitement. Gethro and Jossell are projects of varying degrees whereas Tyon and Bryce should contribute next year.
Athleticism and buckets.
If Ochai stays… I just don’t know how we don’t play 4 guards.
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I was all set to post an update but it appears they withheld Tyon from their double header this weekend due to his injury in the last game.
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Very good read from CJ Moore here.
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BShark said:
Very good read from CJ Moore here.
Really excited about him. He reminds me some of Garrett but better offensively. Honestly he might challenge Ochai for the starting 3 position
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Very good read from CJ Moore here.
Really excited about him. He reminds me some of Garrett but better offensively. Honestly he might challenge Ochai for the starting 3 position
Or Bill just commits to the 4-guard for good.
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@Kcmatt7 I mean… With the roster next year how do you do anything else!!! Tristan and Wilson are great fits at the four for it.
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Kcmatt7 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Very good read from CJ Moore here.
Really excited about him. He reminds me some of Garrett but better offensively. Honestly he might challenge Ochai for the starting 3 position
Or Bill just commits to the 4-guard for good.
I have Enaruna penciled in at the 4: Garrett, Thompson, Ochai, Enaruna, Dave
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@FarmerJayhawk if Tristan starts to know what the hell to do on D that line-up could be amazing defensively.
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BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk if Tristan starts to know what the hell to do on D that line-up could be amazing defensively.
Lots of depth as well. Harris, Braun, G-F on the perimeter. Wilson, Silvio, and Mitch on the back end. That’s a really great 1-11. Then RS Jossell and Gethro.
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At the game tonight.
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Bet he had fun!
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk if Tristan starts to know what the hell to do on D that line-up could be amazing defensively.
Lots of depth as well. Harris, Braun, G-F on the perimeter. Wilson, Silvio, and Mitch on the back end. That’s a really great 1-11. Then RS Jossell and Gethro.
there is our boy. - -he had to love that
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From Wilt to Manning to G-F
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In his last game- 18 pts, 11 boards, (8-14 FG, 1-3 3pt, 1-3 FT). 2 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 6 turnovers.
Last 5 games- 19.4 pts, 10-29 from 3 (34%), 17-21 (FT) 80%, 35-65 (FG) 53%.
Only playing 23 minutes a game (starter) but here’s his season averages.
17 pts, 6 boards, 48% FG, 34% 3 (28-81), 67% FT, 2.9 turnovers, 1.9 assists, 1 block, 1 steal.
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Why post in this thread if you hate JUCOs, I don’t get it.
@BeddieKU23 Thanks, I had been checking his box scores but hadn’t for a bit.
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Getting 17 pts a game in only 23 minutes a game. He’s improved leaps and bounds. Turnover numbers are a bit alarming but I’ll wait to see him in uniform here. I’m excited to see what he’s got, have a feeling Self is right on the money
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@BeddieKU23 That’s his biggest issue for sure, but he is a great athlete and is tenacious.
Bill is always going to talk up players to the media before he gets them but it still stood out to me that Bill told Tyon there is no reason he can’t play 25-30 minutes a game next year during recruiting.
Plus it sure seems that Tyon just loves KU. Don’t remember the exact article it was in but his JUCO coach said he basically knew it was over from the first time KU visited because it was just different and Tyon’s eyes lit up/bugged out when he saw the KU coaches.
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Always happy to see when recruits are geeked out to be at KU.
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Plans to be OAD (have this on good authority). Also he’s a bad bad dude.
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@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
Plans to be OAD (have this on good authority). Also he’s a bad bad dude.
Yikes
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@BeddieKU23 He’s good enough to do it. If he gets big minutes KU will spotlight him well enough.
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He is talented but I’m going to side with caution here that he’s going to take some time. Just from a few games I watched I see a bit of a learning curve for him
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@BeddieKU23 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
He is talented but I’m going to side with caution here that he’s going to take some time. Just from a few games I watched I see a bit of a learning curve for him
I agree, that’s just “the plan”.
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@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@BeddieKU23 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
He is talented but I’m going to side with caution here that he’s going to take some time. Just from a few games I watched I see a bit of a learning curve for him
I agree, that’s just “the plan”.
I wonder if it’s ever been done.
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It’s amazing to me how many kids come into college with plans that are just non negotiable. Not saying that is the case here but it’s amazing how many kids make awful decisions even with the information spelled out for them.
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@BShark the guy is going to be a very good player for us.
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I don’t see TGF having a big impact next season. He only had 3 games last season where he shot over 50% from the field. He was 27% from 3 and 37% overall. If he shot that poorly against defenses nowhere near what he’ll see in the B12, I struggle to see him cracking the rotation next season once Self trims it.
I just don’t see him being a significant contributor for KU next year with the depth Self has at the 3 and 4 spots. Ochai, Braun, Enaruna, Lightfoot, and Wilson that are already here are his competition for minutes. I think it’s far more likely he would be a factor in 2021-22 and even then, I could see him getting stuck in a logjam.
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@Woodrow said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
it’s amazing how many kids make awful decisions even with the information spelled out for them.
As opposed to all the adults setting good examples for them by making intelligent decisions even with the info spelled out for them!
https://www.businessinsider.com/cruise-ships-shut-out-of-ports-leaving-passengers-uncertain-2020-3
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@Texas-Hawk-10 https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/grant-foster_tyon_nqkj
Those were his fr state when he was injured and barely played. He was a lot better this year.
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@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/grant-foster_tyon_nqkj
Those were his fr state when he was injured and barely played. He was a lot better this year.
I got you @BShark the guy is going to play well for us, contribute bigtime. He’s going to get PT, no doubt.
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@Marco said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/grant-foster_tyon_nqkj
Those were his fr state when he was injured and barely played. He was a lot better this year.
I got you @BShark the guy is going to play well for us, contribute bigtime. He’s going to get PT, no doubt.
Who does he play over next season? Out of Ochai, Braun, Enaruna, Lightfoot, and Wilson, who does he play ahead of?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I could easily see it with Tristan and Jalen. I’m interested to see how it shakes out we got 11 guys hoping for minutes and Self will play 9 at most, probably 8.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 possibly Enaruna or Wilson?I’m assuming Mitch gets minutes but his minutes have a ceiling. Maybe 10-15
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Marco said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/grant-foster_tyon_nqkj
Those were his fr state when he was injured and barely played. He was a lot better this year.
I got you @BShark the guy is going to play well for us, contribute bigtime. He’s going to get PT, no doubt.
Who does he play over next season? Out of Ochai, Braun, Enaruna, Lightfoot, and Wilson, who does he play ahead of?
Enaruna, Lightfoot, Wilson. I don’t think Mitch plays that much. He’ll be the third string center (probably under 10 MPG)
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@FarmerJayhawk I still think Mitch starts at the 4 next season. That’s the primary reason he redshirted this season was because of the available PT next year.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 well he gets a free year of college and gets to play on possibly 2 championship contending KU teams. It seems like that’s what the kid grew up dreaming of. I don’t think not starting next year was a deal breaker to red shirting.
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@approxinfinity said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 well he gets a free year of college and gets to play on possibly 2 championship contending KU teams. It seems like that’s what the kid grew up dreaming of. I don’t think not starting next year was a deal breaker to red shirting.
But Self isn’t redshirting someone for their would be senior season to sit them on the bench the following season. Mitch isn’t the guy that’s going to out up eye popping stats, but he’s the garbage man/glue guy on the team next season. He’s going to play, and he’s going to get 20-25 mpg next season because of all of the intangibles he brings to the table.
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If Mitch starts and Bill goes back to two bigs I might have a bonfire with some alumni shirts. Please no, Bill.
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Guessing starters will be Thompson, Garrett, Ochai, Braun, and Dave.
Harris, Wilson, Grant-Foster, De Sousa/Mitch see good minutes off the bench. De Sousa/Mitch and Enaruna get small minutes off the bench.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Marco said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/grant-foster_tyon_nqkj
Those were his fr state when he was injured and barely played. He was a lot better this year.
I got you @BShark the guy is going to play well for us, contribute bigtime. He’s going to get PT, no doubt.
Who does he play over next season? Out of Ochai, Braun, Enaruna, Lightfoot, and Wilson, who does he play ahead of?
Enaruna, Lightfoot, Wilson. I don’t think Mitch plays that much. He’ll be the third string center (probably under 10 MPG)
I think Mitch plays more of the range of 13-17 minutes a game, Will play some four.
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@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
If Mitch starts and Bill goes back to two bigs I might have a bonfire with some alumni shirts. Please no, Bill.
Mitch is a stretch 4 on offense, he’s a face up guy that can knock down perimeter shots. Mitch playing the 4 isn’t the same as Dave playing the 4.
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Mitch has made 10 3-pointers (10/30 = 33.3%) in 1,032 minutes played at Kansas. That’s an average of one made 3-pointer every 103 minutes. He’s not stretching anything at that rate.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I am definitely taking the under on 20-25 minutes for Mitch. I think Self is perfectly happy having Mitch at practice and on the bench for 2 years instead of 1 regardless of his role in-game.
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@approxinfinity said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I am definitely taking the under on 20-25 minutes for Mitch. I think Self is perfectly happy having Mitch at practice and on the bench for 2 years instead of 1 regardless of his role in-game.
Self didn’t redshirt Mitch to sit him next year. If that’s Self’s plan, then what was the purpose of redshirting him this year? If that’s the idea, then that’s a total waste of a scholarship this season when Self could’ve used it on another player. Self redshirted Mitch to play him this season.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
Mitch has made 10 3-pointers (10/30 = 33.3%) in 1,032 minutes played at Kansas. That’s an average of one made 3-pointer every 103 minutes. He’s not stretching anything at that rate.
The year you might want to focus on is 2017-18 when Mitch played the 4. The other two years, he was primarily at the 5 because of Doke’s injuries. He played away from the basket where he had his highest PER, highest offensive rebound rate, and highest block rate, and also his minutes per game and best shooting season.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
Mitch has made 10 3-pointers (10/30 = 33.3%) in 1,032 minutes played at Kansas. That’s an average of one made 3-pointer every 103 minutes. He’s not stretching anything at that rate.
The year you might want to focus on is 2017-18 when Mitch played the 4. The other two years, he was primarily at the 5 because of Doke’s injuries. He played away from the basket where he had his highest PER, highest offensive rebound rate, and highest block rate, and also his minutes per game and best shooting season.
Mitch played almost exclusively at the 5 in 17-18, backing up Doke. Only other big on the roster was Silvio and he didn’t play hardly at all until the regular season was about over.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@approxinfinity said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I am definitely taking the under on 20-25 minutes for Mitch. I think Self is perfectly happy having Mitch at practice and on the bench for 2 years instead of 1 regardless of his role in-game.
Self didn’t redshirt Mitch to sit him next year. If that’s Self’s plan, then what was the purpose of redshirting him this year? If that’s the idea, then that’s a total waste of a scholarship this season when Self could’ve used it on another player. Self redshirted Mitch to play him this season.
I disagree. With 13 scholarships and a rotation typically of max 8, Self can spend a scholarship on a quality character that makes the team better. Look at our chemistry this year. Outstanding. Mitch I’m sure played a part.
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Dang you guys are getting me excited for next year!
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
Guessing starters will be Thompson, Garrett, Ochai, Braun, and Dave.
Harris, Wilson, Grant-Foster, De Sousa/Mitch see good minutes off the bench. De Sousa/Mitch and Enaruna get small minutes off the bench.
Bingo. That’s how I see it and that’s the most logical lineup.
4 of those guys played big minutes on the team this year. The key will be getting Thompson comfortable in a big role.
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Mitch looked solid in preseason this year. We know what he brings. If he can shoot more consistently with all the time to work on things like that I see him having a role. Self is going to need someone who can protect the basket and take charges and he is that guy
