2021 Recruiting
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Staff is having a Zoom with Bobby Pettiford this week. He seems kinda redundant to Harris but hey, Bill has a type
Update: call is tomorrow. Should be an offer out. Also, a friend of a friend here in NC LOVES him. Wants UNC on him like flies on cow turds. Apparently played 1-4 on his AAU team because he’s built like a tree trunk and can guard about anyone.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Apparently played 1-4 on his AAU team because he’s built like a tree trunk and can guard about anyone.
Okay this will tempt tf out of Bill.
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If Bill pulls off a miracle and gets 2/3 of Walker, Washington and Pettiford KU is a top 3 team. Adding McKissic to that as well would be a nice touch. Just get as many guys as you can tbh.
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TyTy is sooooo good. I’m getting worked up watching highlights.
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@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
TyTy is sooooo good. I’m getting worked up watching highlights.
Too good to be free
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
TyTy is sooooo good. I’m getting worked up watching highlights.
Too good to be free
Looking like we might be back in the saddle. Bill is hangry.
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I’m sure it’s been mentioned but tyty played on the same Pangos AA team as KJ did.
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@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
If Bill pulls off a miracle and gets 2/3 of Walker, Washington and Pettiford KU is a top 3 team. Adding McKissic to that as well would be a nice touch. Just get as many guys as you can tbh.
I think we need to add another quality big in that bunch also
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@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
You know who has length and is athletic? Mady Traore. Name to keep an eye on. Illinois or KU.
According to rivals he’s in the class of ‘22. Plus he’s only 195lbs. I don’t know anything about him like you do but how does he differ from Gethro?
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@rockchalkwyo said in 2021 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
You know who has length and is athletic? Mady Traore. Name to keep an eye on. Illinois or KU.
According to rivals he’s in the class of ‘22. Plus he’s only 195lbs. I don’t know anything about him like you do but how does he differ from Gethro?
Definitely another project, but looks better than Gethro to me.
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Not trying to rag on current players but I’d be very surprised if Gethro ever played meaningful minutes in a KU uniform. I see him as a definite candidate to transfer this year.
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Of all the players that could possibly leave I was thinking Gethro would stick around just because of the potential down the road but he did go to multiple High Schools and its a free year so there’s never going to be an easier time to find another spot then now. Same for Jossell, Enaruna, TGF
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No surprise here. Hunter Sallis to Gonzaga
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We should be Nike…
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:
No surprise here. Hunter Sallis to Gonzaga
Noooooo, you don’t say - - - just stunning - - -stunning I say. - Well it’s ok , so many transfers I really do think with so many that Coach will be able to find some pretty quality guys that will hep the guys right ?
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Looks like the ideal circumstances is 1 FR, 1 transfer at this point, until roster movements happen and we know for sure who’s back
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:
Looks like the ideal circumstances is 1 FR, 1 transfer at this point, until roster movements happen and we know for sure who’s back
Still think we could use a quality 5 somewhere /somehow
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So much for Gonzaga ever going back to mid-major status. It’s amazing what Few has done there, really. Wonder if Moser can do the same at Loyola Chicago?
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Tamar Bates asking out of his LOI from Texas…
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:
Tamar Bates asking out of his LOI from Texas…
Look for Kansas to go after him
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@BShark 2031. We can form a KU Buckets Boosters group and steer the decision.
I can contribute $100 of seed money.
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@BeddieKU23 I really was not impressed with his tape. He will get recruited over if he comes here.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 I really was not impressed with his tape. He will get recruited over if he comes here.
Don’t see him moving the needle for next year that’s for sure.
I REALLY want TyTy. He is an absolute dog and offers something we don’t really have on the roster…
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Funny his ranking went up a bunch this yr. Tape is so so. He is a big guard that can create and shoot and defends. Not a really fast twitch athlete
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I feel like, other than a stud point guard maybe, most of the players we pick up aren’t going to be better than the players currently on the roster. I wouldn’t be opposed to giving Dajuan Harris a lot of minutes next season.
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Can find always find better players. This was literally the worst offensive team Self has ever had and it wasn’t close. Not expecting bad shooters to magically get better. I think Self is doing the right thing, find 2 to 3 guys that can shoot and fill needs and hope the additions make a difference in how guys play
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2021 Recruiting:
I feel like, other than a stud point guard maybe, most of the players we pick up aren’t going to be better than the players currently on the roster. I wouldn’t be opposed to giving Dajuan Harris a lot of minutes next season.
Bill is out hunting for better players, that’s for sure.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:
Funny his ranking went up a bunch this yr. Tape is so so. He is a big guard that can create and shoot and defends. Not a really fast twitch athlete
Bates would be far below TyTy and Pettiford if it were up to me.
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Bossi just said KU isn’t interested.
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Agree those 2 guys are considerably better then bates at this stage. Athletic ability is on another planet for them too
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I mean players do get better. Frank Mason was a 32.7% 3-point shooter and 66.7% FT shooter as a freshman and a 47.1% 3-point shooter and 79.4% FT shooter as a senior. Players develop and get better. Dajuan Harris looks like he could be really good, so does Jalen Wilson. Maybe Clemence or Adams show potential next season. Maybe Bryce will improve with a full and normal offseason and a hopefully healthy sophomore season. Instead of trying to look for a quick fix and get a 1-year rental who probably won’t be much better than a player currently on our roster, maybe we should recruit freshman and give them time to develop and play with each other.
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@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2021 Recruiting:
I feel like, other than a stud point guard maybe, most of the players we pick up aren’t going to be better than the players currently on the roster. I wouldn’t be opposed to giving Dajuan Harris a lot of minutes next season.
Bill is out hunting for better players, that’s for sure.
Who? Who’s the transfer that’s going to magically transform our team next season?
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Idk. I think this year is the exception considering the types of guys leaving programs this year. And the reality is if you aren’t getting a transfer who can play big minutes for you this day and age then you are doing a poor job recruiting.
Literally every single elite 8 team has a transfer playing big minutes for them. Several of the teams have like 2 or 3 playing big minutes.
The transfer market is a lot deeper and more talented than it was even 5 years ago.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2021 Recruiting:
I mean players do get better. Frank Mason was a 32.7% 3-point shooter and 66.7% FT shooter as a freshman and a 47.1% 3-point shooter and 79.4% FT shooter as a senior. Players develop and get better. Dajuan Harris looks like he could be really good, so does Jalen Wilson. Maybe Clemence or Adams show potential next season. Maybe Bryce will improve with a full and normal offseason and a hopefully healthy sophomore season. Instead of trying to look for a quick fix and get a 1-year rental who probably won’t be much better than a player currently on our roster, maybe we should recruit freshman and give them time to develop and play with each other.
We are definitely hoping for improvement out of Bryce. I would bet money on 4, possibly 5 new faces.
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A highschool recruit that moves the needle for next year…
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@KirkIsMyHinrich Idk. I think this year is the exception considering the types of guys leaving programs this year. And the reality is if aren’t getting a transfer who can play big minutes for you this day and age then you are doing a poor job recruiting.
Literally every single elite 8 team has a transfer playing big minutes for them. Several of the teams have like 2 or 3 playing big minutes.
The transfer market is a lot deeper and more talented than it was even 5 years ago.
The fact of the matter is KU needs an infusion of talent, proven scorers and athleticism.
Names to watch: TyTy Washington, Brandon McKissic, Stanley Umude, Christian Bishop, Bobby Pettiford (believe he is the plan B for TyTy and that the staff really wants a HS point guard).
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@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2021 Recruiting:
I mean players do get better. Frank Mason was a 32.7% 3-point shooter and 66.7% FT shooter as a freshman and a 47.1% 3-point shooter and 79.4% FT shooter as a senior. Players develop and get better. Dajuan Harris looks like he could be really good, so does Jalen Wilson. Maybe Clemence or Adams show potential next season. Maybe Bryce will improve with a full and normal offseason and a hopefully healthy sophomore season. Instead of trying to look for a quick fix and get a 1-year rental who probably won’t be much better than a player currently on our roster, maybe we should recruit freshman and give them time to develop and play with each other.
We are definitely hoping for improvement out of Bryce. I would bet money on 4, possibly 5 new faces.
And the Top 6 players on the team next season are still going to be Dave, Jalen, Agbaji, Braun, Thompson, and Harris.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Very real chance Agbaji isn’t on the team.
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If Harris is a top 6 player we aren’t going to be very good. If Bryce is as well without much improvement we could miss the tournament…
That said I believe Bill is going to improve the roster.
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I guess we’ll see. I have very little faith in transfers moving the needle much for Kansas. I’m all for acquiring young talent that’s going to stick around for multiple years.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2021 Recruiting:
I guess we’ll see. I have very little faith in transfers moving the needle much for Kansas. I’m all for acquiring young talent that’s going to stick around for multiple years.
Normally I would agree but there is, relative to college hoops, elite talent littering the portal this year.
I am glad that the staff really wants a HS PG though. We need to close on one.
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@BShark I would be very surprised if Ochai was not on the roster.
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@BShark Agreed. I don’t see the point of rolling out the same squad we saw this year into next season. The roster makeup of last season alone killed us. I think some underestimate how impactful someone like Bishop would be on next year’s squad.
Then you throw in a couple of guys who can actually drive the ball to get a bucket and voila, you have a group who might not go on 8 minute scoreless stretches weekly.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2021 Recruiting:
Then you throw in a couple of guys who can actually drive the ball to get a bucket and voila,
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We did just have a team made up of guys that stuck around. That team lost in the 2nd round. Always a catch 22. If that same core stays maybe we get even better teams the next 2 years with an influx of talent via the High School and transfer market. I think that is what Self is really trying to get. He needs 1-2 guards and then whatever else shakes off the tree.
Tyty Washington can move the needle. A transfer like McKissic would give us bench shooting and defense. I think he looks to fill specific needs like having another pg with Harris and then something else to compete and get away from forcing wings to be guards which Braun and Agbaji are. We shall see. Its gonna be interesting
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:
We did just have a team made up of guys that stuck around. That team lost in the 2nd round. Always a catch 22. If that same core stays maybe we get even better teams the next 2 years with an influx of talent via the High School and transfer market. I think that is what Self is really trying to get. He needs 1-2 guards and then whatever else shakes off the tree.
Tyty Washington can move the needle. A transfer like McKissic would give us bench shooting and defense. I think he looks to fill specific needs like having another pg with Harris and then something else to compete and get away from forcing wings to be guards which Braun and Agbaji are. We shall see. Its gonna be interesting
Not really. Garrett and Agbaji were the only returning players who averaged more than 20 minutes per game in the 19-20 season. We have a lot more returning minutes next season (Agbaji and Braun over 30, Wilson and Dave over 20, and Thompson and Harris over 15).
A young point guard would be great, and maybe another guard that can fill an Isaiah Moss type role. I’m excited about next season’s team, but it’s mostly because I believe in player development and team chemistry and think that there is a lot of good talent on the current KU roster.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2021 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2021 Recruiting:
I mean players do get better. Frank Mason was a 32.7% 3-point shooter and 66.7% FT shooter as a freshman and a 47.1% 3-point shooter and 79.4% FT shooter as a senior. Players develop and get better. Dajuan Harris looks like he could be really good, so does Jalen Wilson. Maybe Clemence or Adams show potential next season. Maybe Bryce will improve with a full and normal offseason and a hopefully healthy sophomore season. Instead of trying to look for a quick fix and get a 1-year rental who probably won’t be much better than a player currently on our roster, maybe we should recruit freshman and give them time to develop and play with each other.
We are definitely hoping for improvement out of Bryce. I would bet money on 4, possibly 5 new faces.
And the Top 6 players on the team next season are still going to be Dave, Jalen, Agbaji, Braun, Thompson, and Harris.
Agree with @BShark that if that is, in fact, our top 6 players next year, then it will be a long and frustrating year. It’s the same team that lost games to long and athletic teams by 34, 25 and 19 points this year. Minus it’s best defensive player (by far) and the only player who could semi-consistently finish on drives.
I don’t know how much they could improve just with an additional year of experience, but that would be a team seriously lacking in speed and athleticism. Who among that 6 can take a reasonably good defender off the dribble to the hoop and finish? Who can create his own shot - maybe Thompson, who demonstrated earlier in the year that he has a decent pull up shot from 12-15ft? Who can consistently knock down 3s? On the other end, who can shut down a top flight scorer? Who can stop quick guards or wings from penetrating?
We were under .500 against at large caliber teams this year. And, most of the wins we did get were against teams that didn’t get past the first round (Baylor coming off layoff and a 1 point win against Creighton that won 2 games in the tourney).
Whether through transfers or recruits, we need a serious upgrade of talent, esp. a real honest-to-goodness PG, to improve on this year…
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Wouldn’t mind another PG from North Carolina tbh…last two worked out…
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Jonas Aidoo officially back on the market.
