Garrett Appreciation Thread
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BShark said:
Marcus might be playing angry this year.
And this is the guy that some say hope he transfers cause never one squat - - - Iām done
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Marco said:
@BShark Garrett will be a great defensive spark plug coming off the bench. His decreased minutes will allow him to go full bore!
Whoās starting over him?
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Kcmatt7 said:
Marco said:
@BShark Garrett will be a great defensive spark plug coming off the bench. His decreased minutes will allow him to go full bore!
Whoās starting over him?
Moss is the only possibility.
His minutes are not dropping much either way though.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Marco said:
@BShark Garrett will be a great defensive spark plug coming off the bench. His decreased minutes will allow him to go full bore!
Whoās starting over him?
Moss is the only possibility.
His minutes are not dropping much either way though.
I knew I was forgetting someone.
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@Kcmatt7 He isnāt with the team yet which will hurt his chances imo.
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Marcus needs to guarding the opponents best perimeter player and Dotson needs to guarding their worst to conserve his energy as much as possible because Dotson will be playing 35+ mpg without a quality bench player behind him. If McBride isnāt ready yet (very real possibility), Marcus Garrett is the back up PG.
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Flaherty from 247 on Garrett, "In short, it hasnāt been pretty, but it might not be as far away as people think. Last season, Garrett had a noticeable hitch in his motion, something that led to him making just 12-of-49 3-pointers, or 24.5 percent. Said hitch is gone; Garrett is now shooting with a much more fluid motion, which makes sense; the Kansas staff has said before that they expect Garrett to be able to shoot eventually, as heās one of the teamās hardest workers and few were going to get up as many shots. But he made just 1-of-9 3-pointers in the two scrimmages, and the one that he made bounced in. And while a number of those shots were on target, they rimmed out ā including an in-and-out miss Tuesday ā in large part thanks to a strange horizontal spin Garrett is still putting on the ball.
After the scrimmage, I called our director of basketball scouting, Jerry Meyer, who played at Lipscomb for Hall of Fame coach Don Meyer (his father), and who coached at Vanderbilt to ask about that side-spin problem. Meyer said most often, that motion was added by too much push from the off-hand thumbāin Garrettās case, his left thumb. Another coach that I called confirmed the diagnosis, noting that it shouldnāt be a difficult adjustment to make. With no hitch and a shot thatās more consistently on line, Garrettās already putting in the work.
Interestingly enough, when Issac McBride talked with media members afterward, he was asked ā after watching last yearās team ā which player surprised him the most. His answer was Garrett, with McBride noting that he had no idea Garrett was as offensively skilled as he was."
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@FarmerJayhawk Shooting is a skill. Thatās why Iām not worried about Marcus. He will eventually get it down pat.
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KUSTEVE said:
@FarmerJayhawk Shooting is a skill. Thatās why Iām not worried about Marcus. He will eventually get it down pat.
Now tell me buddy , will that be in THIS decade - -or is something that younger people can look to in their futures lmao. ā ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 Iāve never said - not one time - that Garrett should transfer.
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@Kcmatt7 Starting 5 - Dok, Silvio, Agbaji, Dotson and Moss.
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Marco said:
@jayballer73 Iāve never said - not one time - that Garrett should transfer.
Why of course you didnāt - -letās go down memory lane shall we?
2 days ago of the Mitch thread what you actually said was and I quote " - Let me say it Redshirt Mitch & Garrett. ( ok now you ready here is where you are telling Garrett - - ready ? ) - Oh No, Garrett might transfer ! - - then you say - - GO AHEAD - which your referring to Garrett to transfer - -again your telling Garett GO AHEAD TRANSFER. - - Because as we all know just like you was so careful to point out - - Really what DOES HE ( referring to Garrett ) - what does he offer ? ā NOT SQUAT ā referring that Marcus doesnāt do squat.
Ya ok there buddy you just keep thinking that - -telling him that ya go ahead transfer - - But wait you didnāt say that right? - - I mean itās your story you stick that big boy. - -lmao ā BUT sell that shit to someone else Cause I aināt buying it & Marcus aināt buying it ā Marcus is staying right here -where he belongs - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 Easy ā¦ as I read it, he was fine if Garrett transferred as a consequence of Garrett being redshirted. Thatās different than saying he should transfer. And we should also, I think, understand that a valuable player in one personās eyes is not in another personās. Thatās debatable. And until Garrett can shoot better than the third best player on a 7th grad team, itās a valid discussion point.
So, I said a long, long time ago, if Jamari Traylor never played here, we would have been a better team. That isnāt for lack of appreciation, thatās based on my belief that his net contributions were negative relative to the next best option.
On that point, I think @Marco loses in his position on Garrett. Garrett, I think, in the proper role, provides a strong net positive. But again, until he can actually shoot the ball at a semi-competent rate, that opinion is one that can easily be contested.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@jayballer73 Easy ā¦ as I read it, he was fine if Garrett transferred as a consequence of Garrett being redshirted. Thatās different than saying he should transfer. And we should also, I think, understand that a valuable player in one personās eyes is not in another personās. Thatās debatable. And until Garrett can shoot better than the third best player on a 7th grad team, itās a valid discussion point.
So, I said a long, long time ago, if Jamari Traylor never played here, we would have been a better team. That isnāt for lack of appreciation, thatās based on my belief that his net contributions were negative relative to the next best option.
On that point, I think @Marco loses in his position on Garrett. Garrett, I think, in the proper role, provides a strong net positive. But again, until he can actually shoot the ball at a semi-competent rate, that opinion is one that can easily be contested.
No sorry buddy Iām not sittin with this - -this guy saying Marcus hasnāt done squat - -that donāt fly with me ā sorry man - -aināt working with me - -he coming off to me as Marcus hasnāt donāt squat SO LEAVE - Marcus has done plenty
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@jayballer73 That is not the same as saying that he should
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@jayballer73 Didnāt say he hasnāt done squat, either. Relax, take a xanex.
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@Marco @Jayballer73 is loyal to his guys, ease up.
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I donāt mean to change the subject or anything, but have I mentioned what a freaking bum that Trevor " Canāt Pitch Worth a Crap" Williams really is?
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HighEliteMajor said:
@jayballer73 Easy ā¦ as I read it, he was fine if Garrett transferred as a consequence of Garrett being redshirted. Thatās different than saying he should transfer. And we should also, I think, understand that a valuable player in one personās eyes is not in another personās. Thatās debatable. And until Garrett can shoot better than the third best player on a 7th grad team, itās a valid discussion point.
So, I said a long, long time ago, if Jamari Traylor never played here, we would have been a better team. That isnāt for lack of appreciation, thatās based on my belief that his net contributions were negative relative to the next best option.
On that point, I think @Marco loses in his position on Garrett. Garrett, I think, in the proper role, provides a strong net positive. But again, until he can actually shoot the ball at a semi-competent rate, that opinion is one that can easily be contested.
Did you see Kevin Flahertyās article on Garrettās shooting? He talks about how Garrettās shot doesnāt have the same hitch in it but also has a horizontal spin, which we have discussed on here about his and Dokās shooting. Question is: if we notice it and sports writers notice it over the past year or two, why the blank is it still the same? Doesnāt seem like fixing that problem would be nuclear physics.
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Iām with you on thatā¦ When we play teams that have a dominant offensive player (PG - 3 and sometimes 4) put Marcus on him.
Marcus is a huge weapon for us. Relieving his teammates from being stuck guarding tough assignments that can easily put them in foul trouble while they get scored on.
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Marco said:
@jayballer73 That is not the same as saying that he should
you can spin twist turn whatever the hell you want to try an say it - -bottom line you saying Marcus hasnāt donāt squat is just totally insane - he has done about for this team intangibles -a statement like that is or just goes to show how little you really know about the kid or game.
I tell ya what Coach Marco - I bet ya this I bet if you ask the Coachās or comment how Marcus hasnāt done squat - -I know this I bet there just might speak a little different then what your opinion is - I know that much
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Marco said:
@jayballer73 Didnāt say he hasnāt done squat, either. Relax, take a xanex.
go back an read your post - -you said what does he offer - - -not squat - again twist the words around anyway you want bottom line you saying he has done squat - -if he doesnāt offer squat - then he hasnāt done sqat - doesnāt matter anymore just an insane statement - end of story thanks - take a zanex? - - could I borrow some , you got plenty? - -lmao - thanks for offering -I think me and baby Jane will stick with our 420 but appreciate it anyways - -have a great night ā ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Letās remember how suddenly Marcus became an offensive threatā¦ until he got banged up and slowed down. That happened before his high ankle sprain, which really hampered his game.
BTW, Marcus still isnāt 100%. Iām hopeful he gets there by the end of December.
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@drgnslayr When he puts it all together, and he will put it all together ā¦ either this year or nextā¦ weāre going to feel ashamed how we dogged him.
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BTW, Trevor Williams blows chunks ā¦
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@drgnslayr good point about his offensive game. Who was it, McBride, that said he had no idea how good Marcus is offensively. I distinctly remember the ISU game at home this past year and how Marcus was shredding the ISU defense almost every trip down the floor. Then the high ankle sprain happened and he wasnāt the same. I want that version of him this year with a plus 30% three point gun this year.
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KUSTEVE said:
@drgnslayr When he puts it all together, and he will put it all together ā¦ either this year or nextā¦ weāre going to feel ashamed how we dogged him.
hmmmm - hmmmm - psssssst hello lol - donāt see me dogging him - -ask Jenny lol
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Ruff, ruff, Lol. Iāll say this, looking forward to seeing how he fits into the rotation this season and how much time he gets. Iāll admit it, I probably seemed to be unfairly dogging on him and didnāt mean to be so blunt. Next time Iāll type less while drinking moreā¦
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KUSTEVE said:
@drgnslayr When he puts it all together, and he will put it all together ā¦ either this year or nextā¦ weāre going to feel ashamed how we dogged him.
I love this post. Weāre going to realize how important Marcus is in this rotation however itāll be after he graduates. We talk about moving away frown AODs and move closer to a 4 star who bleeds crimson and blue. Marcus is that guy we want.
Heāll be a bench player but have started minutes.
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rockchalkwyo said:
KUSTEVE said:
@drgnslayr When he puts it all together, and he will put it all together ā¦ either this year or nextā¦ weāre going to feel ashamed how we dogged him.
I love this post. Weāre going to realize how important Marcus is in this rotation however itāll be after he graduates. We talk about moving away frown AODs and move closer to a 4 star who bleeds crimson and blue. Marcus is that guy we want.
Heāll be a bench player but have started minutes.
Okay guys, I get itā¦ I was a bit harsh in regard to Marcus. Even coaches can be wrong. Sincerely, Coach Marco
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@Marco haha! Coaches can be wrong. Look at how Self read Ochai at first. And myselfā¦ I said frown instead of from in my previous post. Dang it!
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rockchalkwyo said:
KUSTEVE said:
@drgnslayr When he puts it all together, and he will put it all together ā¦ either this year or nextā¦ weāre going to feel ashamed how we dogged him.
I love this post. Weāre going to realize how important Marcus is in this rotation however itāll be after he graduates. We talk about moving away frown AODs and move closer to a 4 star who bleeds crimson and blue. Marcus is that guy we want.
Heāll be a bench player but have started minutes.
Add Mitch to the bleed C&M bandwagon as well. Prison Mitch has been recruited over every year and yet he still stands. He may even take a red-shirt just to extend his time here. Who knows but in todayās climate 99/100 of those kids transfer for what they think is greener pastures and opportunity. Mitch has stuck it out. Itās a rare quality to see today.
Marcus is a hard worker. I think heāll figure something out or recognize other ways he can help this team win games. I hope he takes all the criticism around his shooting ability as fuel and motivation.
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@Marco LMAOā¦youāre alright, Coachā¦
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@KUSTEVE Jenny says - good rockin tune! thanks
and as a drummer, its nice to see a drummer sing leadā¦
not sure why itās in this thread, but I aint usually the sharpest crayon in the box.
Oh, and I LOVE Garrett - my fav current player. and based on the type of player he is, Iām sure people could guess my other fav KU past playersā¦
someday Iāll attempt an in-depth analysis on how guys like him help win games without necessarily scoring.
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@Bosthawk releford?
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Yepā¦ thatās definitely oneā¦ I loves me my team workhorse typesā¦ KY, JT.
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Iād like to see Marcus step up this year and LEAD our defense! Heās earned that respect from his teammates. He just needs to step from out of the shadows. A bit more self-confidence should do the trick.
Iām pretty sure our coaches could work this concept into his psyche. The more we build his confidence, the more we see him contribute in all parts of his game. Might even help his jump shot fall at a higher rate.
I remember, back in the day, being coached into a more confident shot. I was trained to tell myself āIām gonna get this one!ā every time I went up for a shot. It helped me immensely, especially because I was a poor shooter in the first place. I think it helped me stay more focused throughout the shot and I put everything into each and every shot. I bet it lifted me 10% on my shot. Itās a natural and easy technique to do. I bet Marcus could gain from doing this.
