Combine Invites
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@justanotherfan He was 180 pounds pre-KU, kind of troubling.
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@BShark 30 lbs more.
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@Woodrow ya just looks different when he’s guarded. And trying to fit into offensive scheme.
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Grimes is playing now
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justanotherfan said:
Grimes’ future depends on what he does at the combine. Play well, and he’s a first rounder. Play poorly, he is hoping to catch on with a summer league team.
Dotson will probably be back at KU. He’s still just a bit too small. I could see him being banged up even as a rookie backup from the size and contact he would have to take.
Dedric is probably a second rounder that makes someone’s roster as a small ball 5. I could see him having success sliding up to the 5 because he’s so efficient and is a reliable rebounder even without elite athleticism. He’s still not going to be great defensively, but playing the 5 (and adding some strength) could help him translate that into a career. With the direction the NBA is heading, a 6-9 5 man that can rebound, handle the ball, shoot from the perimeter and pass effectively is a nice weapon. He won’t be a star, but he’s a nice piece to have stashed on your bench.
I think that Grimes, at this point, will be best served to play overseas.
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So far in his game, Grimes is 3-6, including 1-3 from 3PT, 2 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 turnover. 7 points in the first half.
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@justanotherfan are you watching? I can’t tell much, not showing much of game.
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2 rebounds? Wow, that’s more rebounds than he got in almost one-third of our games.
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@justanotherfan thx! Better than what I saw. Like to just watch the game instead of the interviews
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Grimes finished with 9 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and 2 turnovers.
Without having seen the actual game, I can’t put that performance into any real context.
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Dotson was one of the few players at the combine that didnt hire an agent. Bodes well for him returning you would think
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Bilas seems to think he did good
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Other notes from physical testing:
Dotson has the fastest lane shuttle so far (2.8 seconds). His standing vertical and max vert (30 and 38.5 inches) are very solid for a guy his size.
Grimes did not do well in the leaping department. A disappointing 27.5 in the standing vert, and just 36 in the max. Grimes has not run yet.
No one has bench press numbers yet.
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D dot doing well in game
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Bobby Marks was just on TV saying Q may have potentially raised his stock saying Grimes 19 minutes in game 1 were better then his 6 months in Lawrence.
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JEFF GOODMAN@GOODMANHOOPS 10M KANSAS QUENTIN GRIMES SAID HE IS STILL KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN AND IS UNDECIDED WHETHER TO RETURN TO LAWRENCE OR REMAIN IN THE NBA DRAFT,
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JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
JEFF GOODMAN@GOODMANHOOPS 10M KANSAS QUENTIN GRIMES SAID HE IS STILL KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN AND IS UNDECIDED WHETHER TO RETURN TO LAWRENCE OR REMAIN IN THE NBA DRAFT,
It would be good to take him back if R.J. bolts overseas.
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@BeddieKU23 puzzled me, didn’t see anything to great!
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You think he’s keeping up w/his classes?
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Well this would be a truly bizarre development. He might not be getting great feedback there…
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BShark said:
Well this would be a truly bizarre development. He might not be getting great feedback there…
Shocking to no one but him apparently
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@BeddieKU23 Being honest here I’d rather have RJ than Grimes back and normally I am fairly big on experience.
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So would he be welcomed back. - -he declared for the NBA - -hired an agent , heard his folks wasn’t really that happy in his one year here about the whole KU thing - -saying it was a fluke of a yr - -not the real Quentin.
So if you were Coach - -would you welcome him back with the possibility of RJ - or would you tell him he doesn’t have a scholi to come back to? - -he had been recruited over?
I myself if it came down to Quentin - or RJ - -I’d take RJ in a heartbeat. - and please don’t come at me with the BS of you would rather have a Soph Grimes to a Fr OAD in this case -the talent level between these two is not even close Quentin made his choice - I can promise you that when he declared he was 100% that he was gone - - everyone here thought he was gone whether he should be or not. - Can’t count how many times I’ve heard people here say Quentin is GONE.
Sorry but If RJ said he wanted to come - then sorry but your ship sailed when you declared - -Ku can not decide NOT to recruit just because some kid doesn’t know whether he is gone or not - -KU has to recruit for the future - can’t stand pat and wait - -that’s a recipe for diaster. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I’d absolutely take a motivated and down to Earth Grimes back in a heart beat. As good as landing RJ imo.
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Kcmatt7 said:
I’d absolutely take a motivated and down to Earth Grimes back in a heart beat. As good as landing RJ imo.
I’m sorry buddy
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@Kcmatt7 why not both?
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I have no idea who is better. I just know OAD’s disappoint here.
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I don’t think he wants to be here, so weird! If a nba guy thinks he did well today, d dot should go first round!
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Really want Dotson back. Would actually be a little let down if Grimes comes back to clutter up the court again after what he showed us last season.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
D dot doing well in game
Not that I want him to do poorly, but …
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@HighEliteMajor he did miss 2 threes after that, probably his downfall.
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I kinda want to post this in two threads since it came up twice but I picked this one…
Anyway, Dotson’s (lack of) height should keep him at KU for one more year.
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BShark said:
I kinda want to post this in two threads since it came up twice but I picked this one…
Anyway, Dotson’s (lack of) height should keep him at KU for one more year.
An NBA scout listed that in his Negatives , that an how he needs to reduce his TO’S - get’s sped up - - foul prone - -and be able to create his own shot- he will be back
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@BShark so he’s going to grow in a year?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark so he’s going to grow in a year?
️Lol. He’s just gonna go anyway, if he doesn’t now…
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justanotherfan said:
Other notes from physical testing:
Dotson has the fastest lane shuttle so far (2.8 seconds). His standing vertical and max vert (30 and 38.5 inches) are very solid for a guy his size.
Grimes did not do well in the leaping department. A disappointing 27.5 in the standing vert, and just 36 in the max. Grimes has not run yet.
Compare that to National POY Frank Mason’s 41 inch vert who went second round … If Dotson legit wants to go, would he be fine leaving as a second rounder?
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Not sure of Frank’s shuttle.
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This is what pisses me off about KUBuckets. The other day someone said Grimes is gone, like it was a fact. I thought it was true. Now I’m reading here about Grimes could be back. Knock it off people! Stop acting like know it alls and stating your wild speculations as fact. I’m sure it happens at other sites, but I don’t read other sites. This is where I get my KU news. I don’t go wandering through social media and a zillion other sites like some of ya’ll which is fine. But stop making these statements. If Grimes does come back he’s the second player to come back that I’ve read on these pages, Doke being the other.
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@wissox fwiw all the media pundits thought and reported as if Grimes was gone. All of them. This is a complete change of heart (speculation alert) likely based upon poor feedback at the combine. ie he’s , not that great of a shot, and fat.
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@dylans That only makes me feel slightly better
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dylans said:
@wissox fwiw all the media pundits thought and reported as if Grimes was gone. All of them. This is a complete change of heart (speculation alert) likely based upon poor feedback at the combine. ie he’s , not that great of a shot, and fat.
very true buddy - it’s not only people here on Buckets saying that he was gone - -It’s everyone outside of KU buckets saying he is gone - Quentin himself - -is the one saying he is leaving that option open. - Like you said - - probably because of poor feed back. - -I for one would rather him not come back – - but don’t be pissed at everyone here because of that - just saying what’s been reported plain and simple
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wissox said:
This is what pisses me off about KUBuckets. The other day someone said Grimes is gone, like it was a fact. I thought it was true. Now I’m reading here about Grimes could be back. Knock it off people! Stop acting like know it alls and stating your wild speculations as fact. I’m sure it happens at other sites, but I don’t read other sites. This is where I get my KU news. I don’t go wandering through social media and a zillion other sites like some of ya’ll which is fine. But stop making these statements. If Grimes does come back he’s the second player to come back that I’ve read on these pages, Doke being the other.
This post pisses me the F off.
If you don’t appreciate people sharing the information they’re hearing (often from good sources) than what is even the point of this board? Especially during the offseason.
They’re posting this stuff for YOUR BENEFIT, NOT THEIRS. Very rarely is anything posted here “WILD SPECULATION.”
This board is not tailored to you.
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@Kcmatt7 You’re easily angered.
@wissox Just think of it this way – this is not a news site. This is a opinion site. Just recalibrate expectations. Now, of course, you can take my word as the gospel moving forward. No problem there.
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@Kcmatt7 I didn’t know I’d anger so many. Sorry. “Doke is gone” I read. “Grimes is gone”. No disclaimer that it was anyones opinion, just stated as fact. The other day it and the ensuing comments acted as if something had been decided. Why not put the disclaimer in there? I don’t follow as closely as others. I just like to know something that is stated as factual is factual. Until I read comments this morning that Grimes was still weighing his decision, I was under the impression he was officially gone. I didn’t shed a tear the other day when I read that the other day FWIW.
By the way, Self is gone to coach the Trans-Siberian Womens Olympic development team.
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I almost always to preface things by saying whether it’s just my opinion or things people around the program or people with connections to the program have told me. I can draft a disclaimer and have you sign it if that would make you feel better?
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I get your frustration, but no matter what news source you could have checked over the last six weeks, you would have gotten the same story - Grimes is gone. I’m not even really sure how much traction the “Grimes could be back” story really has, but that may be because I already accepted that he was gone, which every credible report until this week would have told you.
The trouble with stay/go and recruiting is that 100% of the reporting is based on rumors and speculation. There’s just not a lot of 100% solid information. A student athlete says something, then everyone analyzes it. Their dad wears an orange shirt - they must like Texas. Mom wears blue the next day - looks like Duke is in the mix. They order biscuits and gravy for breakfast, must like the SEC schools. Its all rampant speculation based on random facts that may not even mean anything.
I follow recruiting the same way I follow politics - ignore the pundits and talking heads. Pay attention only to what the person says or does. If they say they enjoyed their visit to KU, it means exactly that. They enjoyed their visit. It doesn’t mean they are ready to commit. It just means they had a good time over the weekend. That’s better than having a terrible time, but they might have also had good visits at their other schools.
Until Grimes says something more, I am going to presume that he is going to stay in the draft. Things could change. There could be injuries, subpar performance, breakouts, whatever. But Grimes is in right now, and my guess is that he will stay in until he says he isn’t.
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Disclaimer - - -Disclaimer – Disclaimer ! ! ! - -just so people know - not sure about this - -just passing along from dreaded Social media - -BUT word is - - NOT ME - - Social Media covering the NBA Combine said:
Ok with that out of the way - -they said – Devon Dotson says it may be May 29th before he can make the decision on whether it stays in the draft - - or comes back - -he stays in would be a huge blow
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@wissox Grimes didn’t announce his intention to “test the waters” like Dotson did. He just announced he was gone to the NBA draft. Dotson left the door open to come back with Coach, and the media, unlike Grimes. So, Grimes floating a comeback to KU is truly a surprise. If Doke had been healthy enough to go to the combine this year, I don’t think he would’ve come back to KU. He went to the combine the year before. We’re talking about 20 year old kids here, and we can only go on what they tell us. They change their minds like…20 year old kids.
