Barking Mad Game Thread
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Vick, come on! Leader?
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We finally saw a glimpse of the Grimes we were waiting for.
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In regards to Grimes, it was about this time of year the light came on for Kelly Oubre as well. Hopefully thatās what this was for Grimes.
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
Dedric Lawson = an upgraded Perry Ellis.
Better BB instincts, I think, is the reason. Both seem slow (maybe ponderous is a better word), but Perry always seemed to be figuring out where to move and telegraphed it all the time. DL just seems to have a great sense of how to move.
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@KUSTEVE Too late.
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@Kubie Last I heard āout indefinitelyā. Waiting on the post game update. High ankle sprain is not good.
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@mayjay Dedric plays like a retired NBA player. Definitely has good skills and instincts!
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@mayjay We looked like a real basketball team the 2nd half. A dominating, elite team with great passing and driving skills. Work of art. This wasnāt Vick shooting 60% from 3 to bail us out- this was a sustained ass kicking to the tune of 25-0. This is what Iāve been waiting to see.
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for my take in this games ā I think to me 3 things stuck out : - - #1 - - -Devon Dotson - -he was there when things we NOT going good , - -# 2 - - Marcus , the guy deserves some props - -ya sure has ugly shot - BUT on the defensive in the kid is a stud , quick hands pesky does a real good job - -got like 7-8 rebounds on top of that - -& #3 - - Seeing Quentin finally starting to show signs of coming out of this really bad slump.
The biggest concern of Course -is Doke - -they said high ankle sprain - -not good - -and we have Villanova coming in less then two weeks. - -we were getting our butt beat on the boards finally evened out some but mercy - -they were getting every dam rebound for awhile. - -ROCK CHALK AL DAY LONG BABY
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@mayjay Perry is much more athletic. So far, better outside shooter.
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Does any one recall a better run than the 27-0 we just watched?
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Post game just said why Dave doesnāt play more yet, heās still out of control too much to leave out there for long stretches. Once the game slows down for him, heāll be fine and see a major upswing in minutes.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I donāt disagree, but he didnāt always use that athleticism well. Poor rebounding instincts, poor defender.
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@JayHawkFanToo 22-0 run on Marquette earlier this year brought us back from behind six or eight
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Did doke ever come out?
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Every box score is an adventure. Vick and Doke with 0 points tonight and still a 25-point KU victory.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Every box score is an adventure. Vick and Doke with 0 points tonight and still a 25-point KU victory.
Going to be a lot more 0s for Dokeā¦
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Anyone think we would ever win a 13.3% 3 pt shooting game, let alone win by dbl digits, or conceive it could be by 25?!!
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Ya thatās really too bad. Get better soon, Doke.
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@jayballer73 Coach said he hopes to have Dok back by Christmas.
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And outrebounded by 9, with only 11 KU assists. Astounding.
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Can you all imagine ESPN if Duke went on a 27-0 run in a close game?
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BShark said:
Can you all imagine ESPN if Duke went on a 27-0 run in a close game?
Internet would break. Maybe not a bad thingā¦
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BShark said:
Can you all imagine ESPN if Duke went on a 27-0 run in a close game?
Theyād probably move Duke up to 6th or 7th place in the Eastern conference.
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mayjay said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich Anyone think we would ever win a 13.3% 3 pt shooting game, let alone win by dbl digits, or conceive it could be by 25?!!
70% from 2. Wild.
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Big Clyde52 said:
@jayballer73 Coach said he hopes to have Dok back by Christmas.
YA I heard, but you listening and I had just said -who would of ever thought with Doke being out - -Vick not scoring - -so zero points from Doke And Vick - - KU getting out rebounded by 10 -and we end up better them by 25 with all that going against us - -just crazy. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark whoās that guy?
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Dedric should be the main really consistent guy box score wise. Though he didnāt get any fta tonight which is very odd.
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Plot Twist: Bill Self isnāt playing Dave so that he stays at KU longer.
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@jayballer73 Yeah plus we shot terrible from three. Thankfully they did too.
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Self said he hopes to have Doke back before Christmas. They play Arizona St on the 22.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Plot Twist: Bill Self isnāt playing Dave so that he stays at KU longer.
Nah. Dave is a 4 year guy basically regardless.
I know you are joking just wanted to mention this.
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I just really donāt understand why he doesnāt play.
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Better news
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I was trying to figure out if the 27-0 run is close to a record.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
I was trying to figure out if the 27-0 run is close to a record.
Itās not.
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I was thinking more along the lines of a KU record.
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Non-sequiter here, but where is Jaybate?
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@Bosthawk nobody knows. Looks like he checked in sept something. Thereās also an email address listed w/his name. Anybody try it?
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4 guards looked real niceā¦
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@JayHawkFanToo Marquette ā¦UNC a couple timesā¦UCLA a few years backā¦that last game with Misery in the 2nd half. i was trying to think of big runs, but nothing would top 27-0.The hallmark of a championship team is the ability to put together runs that simply blow teams away. Weāve done that to two teams in the last 3 games.The signs of an elite team are coming around. i know this might not be popular with some on here, but I think our team might play better w/o Doke against certain teams, especially Villanova.
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@KUSTEVE It absolutely is better without Doke at times.
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Itās all about match ups. Doke is perfect against certain opponents but ineffective against others. Luckily KU has great depth and versatility this season that can play many styles effectively and we saw last night how good it can be when everything is clicking. Wofford was supposed to be the team with the ideal skill set to beta KU and te they got destroyed. Teams will think twice now about trying to beat KU with the 3 and many will still try but we know now that KU has an effective plan to defend the 3ā¦now, if we could hit some 3sā¦
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@KUSTEVE There some match ups that are bad for Doke for sure but I think our post defense takes a huge hit with him on the bench. Even against Marquette and Tennessee we looked much better with him on the floor. The blessing in disguise is that David hopefully will get some minutes to help develop his game. Hopefully Doke is able to return without missing too many conference games. I rolled my ankle super hard as a junior, made a loud pop and swelled up so bad they had to cut off my shoe (I thought I broke something) but I was fine in a couple of weeks. No need to rush him back at this point even if we drop a few games in the non conference its not the end of the world.
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@JayHawkFanToo Doke is killer against the right teams. I have a question then ā¦ if Doke is perfect against some, and ineffective against others, should we not then adjust our lineup accordingly (if there is a reasonable alternative)? In fact, I was thinking about this exact topic earlier in the year. Times when Doke on the floor was a handicap. I do think heās more of a benefit than a detriment, generally, particularly because getting it inside with this team is the best āfirstā option, given our not so whippy three point shooting. Dedric and DeSousa on the floor together (now, a bit irrelevant) would be killer. Again, irrelevant.
But am I wrong or right ā¦ Does Dedric play better with Doke on the bench? Sure seems that way to me. I think Dedric and DeSousa would be great compliments to one another, particularly given Dedricās passing, which would be much more effective with a mobile big.
I guess I think that given our roster, and maybe until Grimes starts drilling threes, we have to use Doke. Maybe McCormack can be that more mobile big thatās a better compliment to Dedric.
Clearly, last night we played a bit faster than we normally do with Doke, in the at nice second half run. We just looked better.
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@HighEliteMajor agree
I wonder how much DeSouza is helping Big Dave in practice
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I hope Silvio is helping Dave out. Itās the only role heāll have all year long
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DanR said:
Where is the high ankle? Iāve never understood that.
Itās basically a broken ankle if itās a high ankle sprain. The bones separate and it takes time to heal.
