Poor Silvio
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@JayHawkFanToo and @chriz
The key word here is kids. I’m afraid you trying to compare your upbringing with those of these young superstars. As someone that has grown up in the ghetto, and have seen what goes on. I don’t blame any of these kids for getting what they can. You don’t put a full course meal in front of a staving person and say you can’t have it then walk away. That is the problem. If the Coaches, Agents, Shoe Companies, and yes even the NCAA really cared about these kids they would fix the system. Until then I promise you some young superstar starved for a normal life with a roof over their head and food in the fridge will break the rules/take the money.
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DoubleDD said:
@JayHawkFanToo and @chriz
The key word here is kids. I’m afraid you trying to compare your upbringing with those of these young superstars. As someone that has grown up in the ghetto, and have seen what goes on. I don’t blame any of these kids for getting what they can. You don’t put a full course meal in front of a staving person and say you can’t have it then walk away. That is the problem. If the Coaches, Agents, Shoe Companies, and yes even the NCAA really cared about these kids they would fix the system. Until then I promise you some young superstar starved for a normal life with a roof over their head and food in the fridge will break the rules/take the money.
I strongly disagree with you because generalizations are dangerous and in this case, invalid. You are assuming that only poor people that grew up on the ghetto break the law and should be given a pass, both assumptions are incorrect…in my opinion. Respect for rules, regulations and the law should not be and it is not dependent on social or economical standing, it just shows the moral compass of individuals. Many of the prospects that broke the law did not grow up in the ghetto or came from extremely disadvantage backgrounds and most that grew up under those circumstances do not break rules, regulation or the law.
Look at some KU players. Devonte’s mother had him when she was 14 and yet they managed to do things right under extreme circumstances. Preston, on the other hand, did not grow up in the ghetto or had extreme financial hardship and yet he and his family knowingly and willfully broke all kinds of rules and regulation because of greed.
BTW, you really don’t know what my upbringing was.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
DoubleDD said:
@JayHawkFanToo and @chriz
The key word here is kids. I’m afraid you trying to compare your upbringing with those of these young superstars. As someone that has grown up in the ghetto, and have seen what goes on. I don’t blame any of these kids for getting what they can. You don’t put a full course meal in front of a staving person and say you can’t have it then walk away. That is the problem. If the Coaches, Agents, Shoe Companies, and yes even the NCAA really cared about these kids they would fix the system. Until then I promise you some young superstar starved for a normal life with a roof over their head and food in the fridge will break the rules/take the money.
I strongly disagree with you because generalizations are dangerous and in this case, invalid. You are assuming that only poor people that grew up on the ghetto break the law and should be given a pass, both assumptions are incorrect…in my opinion. Respect for rules, regulations and the law should not be and it is not dependent on social or economical standing, it just shows the moral compass of individuals. Many of the prospects that broke the law did not grow up in the ghetto or came from extremely disadvantage backgrounds and most that grew up under those circumstances do not break rules, regulation or the law.
Look at some KU players. Devonte’s mother had him when she was 14 and yet they managed to do things right under extreme circumstances. Preston, on the other hand, did not grow up in the ghetto or had extreme financial hardship and yet he and his family knowingly and willfully broke all kinds of rules and regulation because of greed.
BTW, you really don’t know what my upbringing was.
You can disagree all you want too. Was your upbringing like when you called the cops after dark they didn’t show up? Mine was. I don’t put any of the blame at the feet of these kids. They are faced with crazy skills, yet they look around at their mother and siblings suffering. With no help coming but a government check.
Then you place a wad of cash in front of them and not expect them to not bight? The NBA is a pipe dream. So few make it. It’s just a fact. In the places most of these kids come from you take what you can get. Period. The bigger picture is a pipe dream.
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Also @JayHawkFanToo why is it so wrong? As you ride your noble horse. When coaches, agents, Shoe companies, and yes even the NCAA created a environment it’s so easy to take the money? Answer me that one?
It appears from your responses you put the blame at the foot of the kids. Even saying a lack of a moral values is the problem?
So when your broke, watching your siblings and mom starve?These kids are supposed to have a righteous mind, with so many offering promises and large bank accounts. I guess your saying they should kick the their family to the curb and put the schools they are attending first?
Wow OK?
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Again, you have no clue what my upbringing is and yet you feel entitled to use it to justify something that is indefensible.
What you are saying is that because someone is disadvantage he is entitled to break the rules with no consequences and if there is something there for the taking, even when it is wrong, disadvantaged people are entitled to take it anyway…this is flawed logic that does not pass the test of reasonableness and it would not stand in any court of law either. Do you not see that when kids and/or families break the rules they place the program that gave them a full ride in jeopardy? What if their actions cause the program to get penalties that result in loss of scholarships that directly affect other athletes? How about them?
There is no need to ride any moral high horse, moral principles are just that and they are not dependent on class, social or financial status, either you have them or you don’t. Surprised and disappointed you cannot see the difference.
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I’m not sure why you think I’m interested in how you grew up? News flash I’m really not. Haven’t gave it one thought. You see one can have a haughty spirit no matter what side of the rail road tracks you come from.
Sorry stake me to the cross and burn me? I just don’t agree with you and some others on blaming these kids. Kids are a product of their up brining, their environment. These kids grew up with nothing, yet we expect them to keep this moral compass you speak of. No my friend it’s about getting paid, cashing in while you can.
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@DoubleDD Let me guess … it’s always someone else’s fault, right?
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DoubleDD said:
I’m not sure why you think I’m interested in how you grew up? News flash I’m really not. Haven’t gave it one thought. You see one can have a haughty spirit no matter what side of the rail road tracks you come from.
Obviously you are because you keep referring to my upbringing without having a clue how or where I grew up.
Sorry stake me to the cross and burn me? I just don’t agree with you and some others on blaming these kids. Kids are a product of their up brining, their environment. These kids grew up with nothing, yet we expect them to keep this moral compass you speak of. No my friend it’s about getting paid, cashing in while you can.
So, they should get paid and cash in while they can without regard for rules, regulations or the law or the hardship they create for others in the process? That is the textbook definition of lawlessness.
Based on your comments I take it you believe we should allow all the underprivileged people from Central America, and the rest of the world for that matter, that come in illegally, willingly and knowingly violating our laws to stay and get benefits even American don’t get? After all the US is dangling in front of them and why should they not just break the law and help themselves while they can?
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@JayHawkFanToo whoa!
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We may not argue Silvio much right now for obvious reasons. I don’t understand why a sleazy desperate crooked shoe whore lawyer was able to impact a kid’s college career. He was desperate to clear his client and created mud. He then chose to sling that mud hoping to clear his clients. His mud slinging didn’t work and his client/s was/were still found guilty. But why does Silvio seem to be a real “victim” in this horrid affair? Regardless of what happens, Silvio did absolutely nothing wrong.
So if Silvio was mentioned as potentially and allegedly taking money some how, and Zion Williamson was also personally mentioned, not a guardian or parent, as requesting payment, yet he plays at Puke as if nothing was ever mentioned. Of course K plays it all down and claims they completed a thorough check on the allegations. Zion was “cleared” by Puke to play. But yet he plays? Am I the only one that sees anything wrong with this twisted picture? And the Puke fans have the audacity to claim that KU pays players? They even think KU will vacate wins? KU is the only program that threatens Puke. If KU is brought down, Puke becomes the face of college basketball.
Lastly, these stupid situations always end poorly and we all know it. I don’t think it matters if this $2500 payment is true or not, Silvio and KU will have yet another black eye, while other programs seem to be getting away with murder. I haven’t heard a word about Sean Miller and Ayton’s $100,000 payment. Emerts has said none of the schools in this mess will be punished. I don’t get it. Self admitting blame? Does he know something that will come out? Yet K plays Zion.
You people supporting Silvio sitting are a little ridiculous. We are either penalized as it stands, or we are wasting a perfectly eligible recruit. L’ville is the only other program that has suffered. KU has already been punished and there is no wrong doing. We are tarnished and I will be pleasantly surprised if Hurt picks KU. These coaches work these kids and use this crap. I can only imagine what Wright said to JRE. I was shocked when JRE chose Nova. So, KU is already paying a price and the other programs are circling the KU recruits. No telling where Hurt will end. I hope KU. I was hoping that having Self as a U17 coach helped him get to know the real Self, not the nasty backstabbing allegations of other coaches. Apparently Calipari thinks he has a shot at Hurt.
Not one 2019 4 or 5 star commitment in ESPN’s top 100, NOT ONE
Stanley - great get if Grimes lives up to NBA hype, but right now Grimes is looking a little like Selden and may be around at least another year. 42% UCLA (Warm with Oregon and UCLA) If he has two West Coast schools, my guess is they are #1 and #2. KU is a distant #3.
Hurt - Only legit possibility. Crystal Ball 75% KU…Looks like Ol’ Roy is working him too. I’m really glad Roy honored his UNC recruiting commitment, but now he recruits the hell out of KU recruits.
Auchiuwa 62% UCONN
Daniels - KU not even on the board with this kid!
Nnaji 25% tie KU, UNC, and UK (Jerry Meyer has him at UNC 79%)
Edwards FSU 80% (Wiggins flashbacks)
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In my opinion it’s not just the $2500 that’s holding Silvio out. KU as a program is trying to protect its product in every sense of the word. If holding out Silvio saves itself from a future punishment that’s the price that has to be paid right now. And while I agree with you on a lot of your post I don’t think KU’s position ever changes with situations like this.
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@truehawk93 Reading your first paragraph, I’m curious, where do you get your pipeline to the facts?
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@HighEliteMajor The second paragraph is also completely wrong.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@DoubleDD Let me guess … it’s always someone else’s fault, right?
Well come on @HighEliteMajor even you have to admit that the system in place opens the door for these kids to take the money. We can all sit and act like Oh these kids know better, and bury our heads in the sand and deny that special benefits aren’t already in place.
Funny that all these Kids that play for Nike funded AAU teams and tournaments always sign with Nike Schools? Ummm Interesting.
All I’m saying is how can you blame these kids when the NCAA turns a blind eye and everybody gets paid but the kid?
No NBA talent scout ever said we have to draft this kid because they played at KU. Folks Schools don’t make these kids. These kids make the school.
For the love of God @HighEliteMajor some of these kids are being recruited before they’re even in high school. Yet these kids coming from torn families and poor communities are supposed to have this innate moral compass? When society has already crapped on them? Don’t believe take a drive away from the Shawnee, and Olathe schools and visit some schools down in the poor communities and tell me if American kids of different races and income equality are getting a fair shake?
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JayHawkFanToo said:
DoubleDD said:
I’m not sure why you think I’m interested in how you grew up? News flash I’m really not. Haven’t gave it one thought. You see one can have a haughty spirit no matter what side of the rail road tracks you come from.
Obviously you are because you keep referring to my upbringing without having a clue how or where I grew up.
Sorry stake me to the cross and burn me? I just don’t agree with you and some others on blaming these kids. Kids are a product of their up brining, their environment. These kids grew up with nothing, yet we expect them to keep this moral compass you speak of. No my friend it’s about getting paid, cashing in while you can.
So, they should get paid and cash in while they can without regard for rules, regulations or the law or the hardship they create for others in the process? That is the textbook definition of lawlessness.
Based on your comments I take it you believe we should allow all the underprivileged people from Central America, and the rest of the world for that matter, that come in illegally, willingly and knowingly violating our laws to stay and get benefits even American don’t get? After all the US is dangling in front of them and why should they not just break the law and help themselves while they can?
It appears I have riled you to a point of madness. Maybe it’s best we agree to disagree.
You can blame the Kid, and I’ll blame the system.
Have a nice day.
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@DoubleDD Your mindset is what leads to failure. In all aspects of life. “I’ll blame the system”, is what you say. And you start from this false premise that life, or anything related to life, is fair. It isn’t it; can’t be. So you start with a strawman argument.
See, it’s your perspective. Why is it fair that someone that “all they can do is play basketball”, can make millions per year? Why is it fair that I wasn’t born with that talent? Why is it fair that the person who can only play basketball gets a life of privilege, money, and freedom from real work? Purely through genetics?
“Fair” isn’t the word. “Opportunity” is the word. Everyone in America has the ability to use their particular talents to achieve. Nothing is stopping them. Are there barriers for everyone? Yes. Are the barriers different for everyone in some way? Yes.
In America, it’s the opportunity to achieve. It’s not a guarantee of success. There will be winners and losers.
But your whining about the “system” is demonstrative of a point of view that leads down the path of failure. Blame everyone but yourself for failure. Blame the “system.”
Yet, in your diatribe, you ignore the obvious. It’s right there in front of your face – it is the Education that is provided through the college experience, through the scholarship, that will lift many of these kids for a lifetime.
But continue on … it’s easier to blame, than to look in the mirror. Everyone can do it? It’s so unfair that I wasn’t blessed with talent to play a game for living.
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@BeddieKU23 Unfortunately, I hate to agree with you that position will never change.
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Lmao. Oh excuse me great wise one. I’m fully aware one has to make their own choices and be responsible for such choices. Yet if you can’t or don’t want to understand the concept of an environment and it’s a effect on children then you are the one that is being foolish. If you take a child and give them all the tools to be successful. Odds say the child will be successful in some form. Yet if you take a child and tell them they can’t make it on their own. Odds say that child will become dependent on some form of a handout. Oh yes there are always those exceptions to the norm, Yet they are hardly reality.
How about we stay away from the personal barbs and have a honest debate?
I mean how do some of these kids have parents or leadership over their lives called Handlers? In the case of Silvio, he has a handler that received money? Right? Sounds fishy to me from the get go. Does it not you? So what deal did Silvio make with his handler? Or who made this deal so that Silvio could have a handler? Yet somehow in all this Silvio is supposed to know, as you say?
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@HighEliteMajor 1) I’m pissed, 2) because of 1, emotional, and 3) I hope you’re seeing my grand jury courtroom circus and raising me cold hard facts. And 4) This is my point. It doesn’t matter what the “facts” are @HighEliteMajor, KU has suffered unfairly, unjustly, and utterly unnecessarily at the expense of a desperate lawyer that needed to pull out all the stops for his client/s.
Please clarify your statement about having the facts. I hope its in the sense that you are wholly and completely convinced the so-called “grand jury” was a sham and there were NO FACTS presented, only pure allegations. If so, I have no facts, but you and I both know people don’t care about facts. They see smoke and there’s fire.
Let me further clarify my point about Silvio. Regardless of your position in the whole circus, Silvio did not take or I believe did not take any money. I think the kid just wanted to play ball. Any payment was for Maryland, not KU. I don’t think there are any foundations to the allegations about even Townsend’s comments getting a kid at all costs to KU. I think that whole transcript was taken way out of context. In fact, the judge did not even allow the wire taps. So, no one really knows anything.
Lastly, Zion Williamson was clearly mentioned making a request for payment. KU does not make a payment and he plays at Puke. I guess not all programs apply a “no play” until further evidence is presented or the player is cleared. If this were the case, then all players mentioned in an investigation would sit per their program’s direction. Yet again, Zion plays as if nothing was ever said about payment. But you want facts, great request. Let’s get all the facts, but until then, all players are required to sit. Yet, Emmerts says no program will be punished.
What facts do you want? Until then, Silvio sits and that’s your fact, and according to Emmerts, for no reason. But this is KU’s practice, sit a kid until proven guilty. It also makes KU look even more guilty by sitting him. Then when the “facts” come out, it looks even worse. If there were payments, we’re screwed. If there were no payments, then we are screwed even worse, because then we sit him for NO reason whatsoever. If KU and Self are sitting him, the KU lawyers are very concerned? Maybe Billy’s case being so recent has KU a little edgy?
Dang it…I didn’t mean to be so terribly verbose in my response. Most of it is rinse and repeat.
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Merry Christmas !
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@Bosthawk Thank you, nephew Freddie!
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Anyone see this today by Sam Mellinger?
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article223798645.html
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@Gorilla72 I just read that and found it odd that nobody has mentioned that his “source” is confident he will be cleared. I haven’t heard it mentioned on the radio, twitter, or anywhere.
Also, his article is spot on. It is a joke at this point that he has not been cleared to play or ruled ineligible.
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https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article223798645.html
Fairly recent and objective article that most know or even agree, but makes the best sense because Silvio is being punished due to a bunch of stupid adults. IF bball politics are at play, the NCAA itself should be investigated by the FBI.
When will the schools turn this ridiculous institution upside down and call them out by investigating their less than lawful practices. THIS IS A JOKE and makes a mockery of the game, student athletes, and college sports in general.
By the way, Zion Williamson is still playing, cleared of all allegations of wrong doing and being lauded as the #1 NBA draft pick in the country right now. I guess when you’re Puke, you get special hall passes when your name is brought up in a GRAND JURY of requesting payment. Rat Face will make sure he doesn’t face his nightmare ever again in college bball, Silvio DeSousa.
My prayer is that Puke is or gets investigated and Wiiliamson is guilty of pay for play. Also, they will have to vacate their season for not taking precautions or “respecting” the allegations against Williamson. Rat Face said he was cleared? Please. He also said the whole shoe crap was a “blip.” He then realized how he just belittled the investigation, and clarified his statement.
But apparently Puke and K are way above the “rules.”
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@truehawk93 “when your name is brought up in a GRAND JURY of requesting payment”
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@truehawk93 Please note from Mellinger’s rehash that he makes a wild assumption – that SDS did not know of the payment. It’s like saying Self didn’t know. All involved try to protect the star. It’s just speculation that SDS supposedly didn’t know. I personally think it’s likely that he did know.
Aside from that, don’t buy this narrative. And don’t focus your anger elsewhere (at Duke). Think of this logically.
First, the NCAA isn’t perfect. Don’t expect that. It never will be.
The NCAA has rules. The NCAA is a creation of the colleges. The NCAA serves the colleges. The colleges own the product. The colleges own the contracts. The colleges own the stadiums and arenas. The colleges own the intellectual property. All of this funnels through the NCAA. All of this makes a lot of money. It is a business that supports a large number of other endeavors at the colleges.
The athlete has all of the power here. All the athletes has to do is say “no.” Say “no”, I don’t want to participate in this. If that happens, then the dynamic changes. Control changes.
As with most folks involved in a choice, the individual will weigh the positives and negatives. And even with all the stuff folks say about the NCAA, it’s amazing the choice these individuals make. Actually, it’s a no brainer. The players (all sports) gain immensely and disproportionately - from education, to experience, to connections, to a venue to showcase their talents. A potential lifetime of value. No other avenue provides such a benefit. None.
“Puke” and the NCAA aren’t your enemy. The natural impulse to react on something that feels unfair is the enemy.
I know we think differently on this. I understand how this makes you feel. Seeing SDS on the bench makes me mad too. But understanding that the NCAA isn’t perfect, and that SDS is sitting there by choice, is a good starting point for this analysis.
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Let’s say for a second SDS does know of the payment. A payment that helped him fulfill his high school requirements so that he could enroll in college and play basketball asap. Does that constitute a 13 game suspension?
I believe it’s more then the payment or the idea of trying to figure did he or did he not know. His guardian, as we have discussed before could have likely cleared this all up but he could also be a dirtbag that doesnt want his other dirty laundry coming to light. Whatever the case SDS sits and maybe nobody even Self knows why at this point.
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Did DeSousa’s guardian return the money he got from Under Armour? If not, then we’re talking total benefits of over $60,000 which means DeSousa won’t play college ball again anywhere.
In the NCAA’s eyes, it’s not simply the $2,500 for the online class, it’s also the money reportedly given to persuade DeSousa to go to Maryland as well. I’m not going to hold my breath on DeSousa ever being officially cleared to play.
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Well, this is all fun to discuss, but it seems clear to me that Silvio is NOT playing because neither him nor his camp (handler) are speaking to the NCAA. If they were or have, the NCAA would have come out and clearly stated that Silvio accepted cash and would be suspended forever, or for a certain amount of games. I know crap, and i’m pissed like the rest of you, so we’ll see. Fingers crossed we’ll see him this year.
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True… and if that is the case, who thinks that $60k was just banked and available for return. So, potentially, we can see the possibility of commiting a “crime” to fix a past crime. Where would the $60k come from to repay the “debt?”
I don’t see Silvio becoming eligible unless his people become proactive to make this situation better… and that means… stepping up and fixing his “loans.” That might open the door for the NCAA to make a quick exception to their earlier comment about addressing this after the season.
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@drgnslayr I have read that the NCAA allows loans to pay the “fines” for receiving impermissible benefits, but those were far less than 60 large. Also, I believe it is not usually repayments to the provider–often they have payments to a local charity or somerhing.
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Loans from?
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@Crimsonorblue22 The school can arrange them directly with the student. The NCAA knows the kids don’t have the cash, but now they have some stipend money. Verification is pretty strict, and if the student defaults, the school can’t do it again with anyone for 4 years. Defaulting means paid off by the time set in the plan. Has to be completed by the end of the kid’s eligibility. I don’t know whether that changes based on theoretical 4 yr eligibility or if is required to be done within a single year.
http://www.ncaa.org/student-athlete-repayment-plan
http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Repayment Agreement TEMPLATE.pdf
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@mayjay so, unless they are not even looking at his case, this does not look good. He’s certainly sat long enough to cover the 2500, and we know he could have gotten a loan. Wonder why he doesn’t leave? I do think he values the education.
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@Crimsonorblue22 He probably is eating up what the coaches can teach him, too. I suspect they will finish this in time to rule him eligible for next year, and if there is a repayment plan, he will have all next year to do it. I think he would come back and get the benefit of competition before going pro, but I am no doubt in a small minority.
He is still on scholarship, right?
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@mayjay with his size and athleticism I don’t think he needs to come back. If he had a guard’s body, then yes.
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While we don’t know if SDS knew … I think we can piece this together. As @BeddieKU23 and @Crimsonorblue22 suggest, there is likely more to this.
But one possibility is that the FBI’s involvement has impacted how the NCAA handles certain situations. A $2500 issue was handled one way yesterday, and another way today. It does seem that the SDS issue goes deeper than that.
@mayjay Perhaps he learned from Billy Preston’s experiment? Staying on the bench at KU might be the better long term path.
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jayhawkcsg said:
Well, this is all fun to discuss, but it seems clear to me that Silvio is NOT playing because neither him nor his camp (handler) are speaking to the NCAA. If they were or have, the NCAA would have come out and clearly stated that Silvio accepted cash and would be suspended forever, or for a certain amount of games. I know crap, and i’m pissed like the rest of you, so we’ll see. Fingers crossed we’ll see him this year.
The NCAA can play out this eligibility issue as long as they want. If both of them did cooperate already it doesn’t mean the NCAA will make a ruling. Enough time has passed now that either they are still not ready to give an answer or KU has received an answer and they are appealing. The lack of information out there leads me to believe that everything is still being kept private until a final ruling.
Miami’s player that was also being held out just had his appeal denied yesterday. Different circumstances to Silvio but KU should be prepared for a similar fate.
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I would agree that the FBI probably has an impact on this.
IF this was just about the $2500 I would like to think a ruling would have been made.
But what if this about the shadow of doubt surrounding the 60k Maryland Booster and the 20k payback to the guardian or the alleged pro contract in Spain. That would give the NCAA plenty of reason to pump the breaks.
What if the NCAA is waiting until the spring and the other trials to try and figure out if KU assisted in this class payment to get him enrolled early?
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@BeddieKU23 the Spain contract was approved, right?
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Play Silvio once Spring classes start.
Surely sitting out for the fall semester is enough punishment for whatever. This is ridiculous.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BeddieKU23 the Spain contract was approved, right?
What do you mean by approved. I’ve yet to see any news clearing this issue up. Did he actually sign it or they couldn’t conclude whether he signed it or not?
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I thought he sat out in the beginning til they figured that out?
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This is not simply $2,500. If was just a matter of the $2,500 for the online class, Silvio wouldn’t have missed a minute this year because that money would’ve already been paid back. Silvio’s eligibility also involves the $60,000 Under Armour paid to get him to Maryland. I have no reason to doubt the testimony of a man who pled guilty to his charges and said that he was in the process of giving Silvio’s guardian another $60,000 to repay Under Armour, but couldn’t do so because of the announcement of the investigation. Silvio is never going to be cleared because the money tied to his camp is a minimum of $62,500 in impermissible benefits based on my understanding of this.
The next time anyone see Silvio DeSousa play a meaningful minute of basketball, he will be wearing a professional uniform.
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Gassnola only agreed to pay SDS’s guardian 20k for the UA 60k mess they got themselves into. Gassnola also testified he never gave his guardian the cash.
The 60k is seperate from the 20. As far as we know neither the 60k or 20k have been verified to have happened. Gassnola himself said he never did give him the 20. The cloud over all these alleged events is probably delaying any decision but who knows
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BeddieKU23 said:
I would agree that the FBI probably has an impact on this.
IF this was just about the $2500 I would like to think a ruling would have been made.
But what if this about the shadow of doubt surrounding the 60k Maryland Booster and the 20k payback to the guardian or the alleged pro contract in Spain. That would give the NCAA plenty of reason to pump the breaks.
What if the NCAA is waiting until the spring and the other trials to try and figure out if KU assisted in this class payment to get him enrolled early?
Agreed … this is likely deeper. We just don’t get the flow of info.
I still think SDS waiting all season to see if he’s cleared for next year is better than bolting. If he can come back, play well, it could be the best career move.
Unlike other perspectives, I don’t fault the NCAA here for their handling of this. Heck, they could be investigating KU and Self more directly here. Any investigator worth his salt would be.
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@BeddieKU23 Under Armour paid Silvio DeSousa’s guardian $60,000 before Silvio played college ball. Gassnola had zero reason to make up the $60,000 from Under Armour because he had already plead guilty. He wasn’t saving himself during his testimony, he was ratting everyone else out to reduce his punishment for cooperating with the feds.
The issue with Silvio’s eligibility is at least $62,500 in impermissible benefits. Just because that $60,000 wasn’t from KU or to influence Silvio to KU doesn’t mean the NCAA is going to ignore that $60,000 and pretend like it didn’t happen.
Silvio’s college career is done.
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So you know for a fact he got the money, the 60k? Where you finding that
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I hope he does stick around and can play next year. However two recent cases involving Brian Bowen and Hernandez of Miami show the NCAA is not budging on eligibility even after missing a season. Bowen pursued professional avenues after being told he’d miss multiple seasons. Hernandez will miss at least this season and I cant imagine he’s coming back next year as well. I think if we continue to see this drag on, Silvio will have pressure to look for something else after the season and who can blame him. He could certainly use a full season to impress and improve his game and stock but he may not be in the position to gamble like that. Maybe he likes college and wants his education. I agree the lack of flow of info is concerning to ever seeing him suit up this season
