New 2019 Recruiting
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This is rivals blurb
Wherever he does end up, one should expect a playmaking forward that is ambidextrous to a certain extent, can play either forward position and should make for a positive impact on a high-major playing floor from the get-go.
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I see where he un-officially visited Creighton - said that he has built a relationship with McDermont - -also said that KU has made him a priority ever since offering him in November - -and now Kentucky and DUKE showing some interest
Hasn’t set up any official visits yet. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Self is out seeing Enaruna tonight.
Kid has moved into the top 50 on 24/7 sports.
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Likely to keep rising with the blue bloods after
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247 now lists him as 6’9. Did he get measured recently to gain those 2’?
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BeddieKU23 said:
Likely to keep rising with the blue bloods after
Yeah I was thinking KU could close on him but if Duke and UK offer all bets are off.
Always been a fan of his after checking him out. Haven’t seen him in person obviously since he is in Utah currently.
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KU being in this for a while should help. I think. Who Knows. I hope he doesn’t have a handler
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Read a comment from Ryan Noel talking saying Draft Express had a big write up the NBA talking about his NBA upside and it is limit less or something to that degree - - Noel saying he has a feeling his # 90 something was about to take a big jump. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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247 bumped him into the top 50 after the Without Borders tournament.
Draftexpress did a 4 minute interview with him going over the usuals. Nothing ground breaking but he did impress scouts in a tournament that’s been a springboard for some top prospects in the past.
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He’s almost 6’10 now. Legit combo forward.
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Wanted before, really want now.
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The more I watch/read, I think my favorite thing about him is he’s basically ambidextrous. Natural lefty that shoots with his right.
Watching his old Euro - U16 tape - looks a lot like what Svi did over there. He was basically the PG and easily the best player and took all of the shots and just scored way too easy. I’m glad that he is playing in the US now at an academy.
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@BShark Let’s get him.
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Precious is taking an OV this weekend??
Was this known before now? Just saw it reported…
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It wasn’t, but he’s coming for the KSU game so I’m pretty cool with that. Building will be lit up.
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Nice to have a big time visitor on a big time game
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This is Precious first OV right? That has to mean something. He has been pretty tight lipped about everything so I would take this as a positive that he is coming.
AFH should be unreal Monday night. Hope the visit goes well.
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Woodrow said:
This is Precious first OV right? That has to mean something. He has been pretty tight lipped about everything so I would take this as a positive that he is coming.
AFH should be unreal Monday night. Hope the visit goes well.
Seems like KU has a pretty good shot.
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Also going to UNC for the Dook game. Last I heard Precious was pretty open. Visits will be crucial.
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Well this could be a good thing - - like has been said - -The Phog will be jumpin/very loud and alive. - -This is the 1st time he has been on campus right period?
Hope we can give him an experience he will never forget. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Looks like the staff is also recruiting Harlond Beverly a teammate of Precious. 6’4 guard. Looks like a top 75 player. First I’ve heard of him.
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Well precious coming this weekend for the K-State match up – then he has also scheduled his 2nd visit - -on the 9th of March for the North Carolina - -Duke season finale in North Carolina. - -We need to rock the house down with him this weekend – show up strong raise the rafters. - - North Carolina fans just don’t seem they give that kind of atmosphere - -more of a tennis match coffee and crackers atmosphere - -Now if Duke was involved with his recruitment and they are but I don’t think they are considered as strong maybe wrong - but just need to make that impression.
Also read that even with Hurt taking his officals - -that seems still to be NOT EVEN CLOSE to making a commitment. - -The article said even after his visits he has been keeping anything pretty close to the vest - - says he still has an official visit he could take - - -BUT has shown NO indication that he has a desire to do so. They said has shown no indicators of where he might go - -yet said seems like the most behind the scenes buzz is between Duke & KU - - but would not be surprised if he announced for any of the 4. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONGBABY
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The Dean Dome is going to be insane when Dook comes to town. With any luck I’ll get to go and report back how it compares to AFH against a legit opponent. Even this year against KSU won’t be as good as UK in 2014 and the epic OU game. But it’ll be a fun comparison.
Still really like our chances with Hurt. I think UK is out. Keion Brooks seems like their guy at that spot. UNC is in a similar position to us. They’re losing Maye and almost certainly Nas Little, so there’s a boatload of minutes at the 4. They’re also probably getting Cole Anthony, which is really appealing. And then Duke is Duke. White dudes love playing the 4 for Duke.
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Athletic guard. Seen a bump in his ranking playing on a good team. He’s ranked appropriately and would be a nice 4 yr guy for any Power 5 school.
I think he’s more of a plan B type if Stanley stays West and Grimes doesn’t return. I don’t think he’s better then McBride or Braun so I’m not sure how serious the staff pursues him. Doesn’t hurt to be involved though
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BeddieKU23 said:
247 now lists him as 6’9. Did he get measured recently to gain those 2’?
Was he previously 4’9?
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RockkChalkk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
247 now lists him as 6’9. Did he get measured recently to gain those 2’?
Was he previously 4’9?
Last I saw he was listed at 6’7, now 6’9 and Farmer saying he’s a legit 6’10 now. So he’s grown, not uncommon. I still don’t view him as a true post player though and I think fans thinking some 6’9, 6’10 fast rising player is going to replace Dedric or whoever else leaves from the front court this year is begging to be disappointed. He does look like he has the tools to develop, in time into more of a hybrid 4 man
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@BeddieKU23 he was sassing you because you did ’ for feet and not ‘’ for inches.
Agree on Enaruna he won’t be replacing Dedric’s load. I was very interested when he was lowly ranked and projected 4 years. It is possible now that he could have unrealistic expectations from some. Hurt is still a must get imho.
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Thanks I get it NOW. Wow that one went over my head.
I would like to see some recent video of him to see if him becoming a Top 50 player is because he’s improved that much or because this class is extremely weak and it doesn’t take much to leap others.
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Ryan on the Phog doesnt think Achiuwa ends up at KU and even said he may not visit… interesting twist to pay attention to.
He does think if Miller gets canned at Arizona that KU Could circle back to Nnaji if needed. He also mentioned Josh Green but that’s like saying Wiseman would have gone to KU, a complete joke
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If we don’t get any defects from the coaching changes, I fully expect to take some transfers… Feels more likely by the day.
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@Kcmatt7 I think he would be a match up nightmare for teams. Let’s sign him today. Like right now.
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Precious is in LFK.
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Grad Transfers and Transfers are okay, I just dont want a team of them like this season. A 3 star recruit would could develop would’ve been much better than Charlie in the long run.
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@FarmerJayhawk I’m not hopeful but it never hurts to get a visit.
@kjayhawks Charlie was a 4* recruit tbf. Transfers have been really hit or miss. Not that my opinion on it matters but I’d say 1 max per cycle and preferably not every time.
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Malik and Dedric were great. Important for both teams.
Charlie was an emergency.
But overall, we just need to recruit better. If Bill is going to swing for the fences with big name Spring signees, he better land them.
The emergency takes hardly ever pan out.
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Evan Daniels put a CB pick in of Duke for Hurt today…
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Wish I could say I’m shocked by this. But I just think you look at what Self has done with potential OADs compared to K and Cal and he’s clearly in 3rd place. That makes the decision much easier.
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@Kcmatt7 so grimes would be doing much better under those 2? I think the ones they get could’ve skipped right to the league. We generally don’t get the top 10.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Wish I could say I’m shocked by this. But I just think you look at what Self has done with potential OADs compared to K and Cal and he’s clearly in 3rd place. That makes the decision much easier.
I won’t be even a little bit surprised if Hurt ends up going elsewhere. The threat of a probation probably isn’t helping recruiting at all…
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@Crimsonorblue22 It doesn’t matter what Grimes would have done with the other two. It only matters what he has done under Self and the stigma that comes with it. Along with Cliff, Diallo, Selby, Henry and really just most of the OADs we’ve had. It is just the current perception, and it’s hard to argue with.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@Crimsonorblue22 It doesn’t matter what Grimes would have done with the other two. It only matters what he has done under Self and the stigma that comes with it. Along with Cliff, Diallo, Selby, Henry and really just most of the OADs we’ve had. It is just the current perception, and it’s hard to argue with.
Yeah, fair or not this is what the view is.
And there was an article today on the Athletic slobbering all over Calipari and how players improve massively under him.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Wish I could say I’m shocked by this. But I just think you look at what Self has done with potential OADs compared to K and Cal and he’s clearly in 3rd place. That makes the decision much easier.
I won’t be even a little bit surprised if Hurt ends up going elsewhere. The threat of a probation probably isn’t helping recruiting at all…
If I were a recruit I’d be worried about a post-season ban as well. Especially as a OAD where this may be your only chance at one.
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Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Wish I could say I’m shocked by this. But I just think you look at what Self has done with potential OADs compared to K and Cal and he’s clearly in 3rd place. That makes the decision much easier.
I won’t be even a little bit surprised if Hurt ends up going elsewhere. The threat of a probation probably isn’t helping recruiting at all…
If I were a recruit I’d be worried about a post-season ban as well. Especially as a OAD where this may be your only chance at one.
No doubt kids are worried about it. It’s the uncertainty that is a killer. Once all the dust actually settles I trust KU will get it rolling again.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@Crimsonorblue22 It doesn’t matter what Grimes would have done with the other two. It only matters what he has done under Self and the stigma that comes with it. Along with Cliff, Diallo, Selby, Henry and really just most of the OADs we’ve had. It is just the current perception, and it’s hard to argue with.
Yeah, fair or not this is what the view is.
And there was an article today on the Athletic slobbering all over Calipari and how players improve massively under him.
I have not read the article, but I find that amusing. PJ Washington has been incredible this year and I would assume that is mainly what the article is about, but besides the Wall, AD, Cousins type players who has gone to UK and blown up and gotten so much better. I am sure there are a few, but what about the Harrison Twins, Dakari Johnson, Marcus Lee, Trey Lyles, Weynen Gabriel, Sasha Jones, etc…
I feel like Cal gets a pass because of all of the top end talent he gets that are going to be great no matter where they go.
Maybe that is just my perception. He has had a lot more bust then people realize I guess is my point.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Wish I could say I’m shocked by this. But I just think you look at what Self has done with potential OADs compared to K and Cal and he’s clearly in 3rd place. That makes the decision much easier.
I won’t be even a little bit surprised if Hurt ends up going elsewhere. The threat of a probation probably isn’t helping recruiting at all…
that’s EXACTLY what it is - -this FBI crap has kicked us right square in the nads - - - HARD
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Woodrow said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@Crimsonorblue22 It doesn’t matter what Grimes would have done with the other two. It only matters what he has done under Self and the stigma that comes with it. Along with Cliff, Diallo, Selby, Henry and really just most of the OADs we’ve had. It is just the current perception, and it’s hard to argue with.
Yeah, fair or not this is what the view is.
And there was an article today on the Athletic slobbering all over Calipari and how players improve massively under him.
I have not read the article, but I find that amusing. PJ Washington has been incredible this year and I would assume that is mainly what the article is about, but besides the Wall, AD, Cousins type players who has gone to UK and blown up and gotten so much better. I am sure there are a few, but what about the Harrison Twins, Dakari Johnson, Marcus Lee, Trey Lyles, Weynen Gabriel, Sasha Jones, etc…
I feel like Cal gets a pass because of all of the top end talent he gets that are going to be great no matter where they go.
Maybe that is just my perception. He has had a lot more bust then people realize I guess is my point.
What is the success rate compared to Self though. Of course they both have had their busts. But Self OADs do not seem to have much staying power in the League. And had Self landed some of the guys Cal got, of course it probably changes perception. But these are the results:
- Josh Jackson - Bust - Soon to be wash out
- Selby - Bust - Washed out
- Diallo - Bust - I find it hard to believe he ever makes it
- Alexander - Bust - Washed out
- Preston - Bust (Whether fair or not) - Washed out
- Henry - Bust - Washed out
- Wiggins - Underacheiving
- Embiid - Stud
- Selden - Bust - Will wash out
- Bragg - Bust
- Grimes - Bust
- B-Mac - Bust - About to wash out
- Oubre - Not a bust but not a hit
Cal
- Kat - Hit
- Cousins - Hit
- Monk - Hit
- Booker - Hit
- Wall - Hit
- Bledsoe - Hit
- Rose - Hit (Still falls under Cal)
- Fox - Hit
- SGA - Hit
- MKG - Hit
- AD - Hit
- Knight - Hit
- Knox - Seems like a hit
- Kanter - Hit
- Murray - Hit
- Randle - Hit
- Diallo - Hit
- Noel - Underachieved - Still in the league though
- Skal - Underachieved - Still in the league though
- Bam - Seems like he’ll stick
Add in all the misses from transfers and what not, but that is still one hell of a track record.
K
- Ingram - Hit
- Giles - Meh. Underacheive but still in the league
- Kyrie - Hit
- Bagley - Hit
- Tyus - Hit
- Parker - Hit (Knee injury derailed)
- Jahlil - Underachieve
- Rivers - Hit
- Winslow - Hit
- Trent - Miss - Will wash out
- Duval - Miss - Will wash out
- Carter JR - Hit
- Jackson - Miss - Will wash out
Still, a better track record than Self. Not near as good as Cal, but still better.
Just how I see it at least.
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I think it’s safe to say Giles was derailed by injuries too.
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I’d even say Oubre was a hit, but I don’t believe Self had anything to do with it. Seemed more like he botched that situation than is the reason Oubre has had a decent career.
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@Kcmatt7 Why is Josh a bust and MKG a "hit. Go look at their stats. Then Oubre being a hit has nothing to do with Self? You are trying WAY too hard to make your point.
Also, I am not arguing that Self is on par with K and Cal just that Cal’s record is overstated because he landed can’t miss guys.
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@Woodrow Josh is a bust because he’s definitely not getting a 2nd contract. Kidd Gilchrist will have made $60M in 7 seasons by the time he washes out. IF he washes out. MKG is better from advanced stats metrics as well. Josh will be lucky to ever have a PER as good as MKG’s worst.
Sure, Oubre was successful because of Self. I can concede that point and still think my point is correct. The reason I don’t attribute it to Self is because Self barely played him to start the season and he struggled mightily his first two years in the league.
