New 2019 Recruiting
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He was indeed a GM…and not a good one.
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It looks more and more likely that JRE will end up at Nova
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Should make Zeke’s decision easier I hope
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BeddieKU23 said:
Should make Zeke’s decision easier I hope
There hasn’t been a ton out there on him other than visit fluff pieces. He was tagged in this: https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Board/105393/Contents/Basketball-Authority-Report-Williams-transitioning-well-123801082/
But I am VIP and can’t read it.
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I’ve been reading about JRE , you know all about how JRE’S family and their history with KU. - - - -Lester playing here , his mom going to school hers , but all I have been hearing is how is Mama doesn’t want him to go to KU. - -My question to this is WHY?
You would think , if she went to school here and his daddy played ball here – why is she against him playing here? -Is it all these things that have been happening with or surrounding the basketball program?
Could it be because if the pot that they had the problem with in the players dorm? – The supposed rape in the players dorm? - - The Vick incident with Vick and his so called girlfriend him hitting her supposedly ? - - -Josh Jackson with Vick on this ? - The Billy Preston / Silvio cases with the so called money FBI case? - The Alexander situation? -is these things why? - -the whole FBI thing? - -anyone know for sure why she is against him playing here? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I may be wrong (new info out or something) but last I heard JRE’s mom was making him choose KU on his own. Not pushing him to KU, but not away. Just making him make his own decision. It may be a tough love type of deal.
I don’t want my kids to do something just because I did it- I want them to make their own informed decisions. Hopefully this is the same deal.
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dylans said:
I may be wrong (new info out or something) but last I heard JRE’s mom was making him choose KU on his own. Not pushing him to KU, but not away. Just making him make his own decision. It may be a tough love type of deal.
I don’t want my kids to do something just because I did it- I want them to make their own informed decisions. Hopefully this is the same deal.
hmmm, I hadn’t heard anything like that , but makes sense I reckon. Thanks for your info buddy. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Should make Zeke’s decision easier I hope
There hasn’t been a ton out there on him other than visit fluff pieces. He was tagged in this: https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Board/105393/Contents/Basketball-Authority-Report-Williams-transitioning-well-123801082/
But I am VIP and can’t read it.
Here you go my friend
Nnaji visited UCLA this past weekend and will be at Baylor this weekend followed by a visit to Purdue. We’re still of the belief that Arizona is legitimately in this one and the coaches are pursuing Nnaji with the belief that the Wildcats could land him. Each school has its draw to Nnaji and Kansas is the main competition, but Arizona is not out of this one by any means.
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Nobody has given out the reasons, not even the people who claim to know something from other teams recruiting him. Either its false rumors or is the word out there that nobody wants to talk about.
What is troubling from the tea leaves I’m seeing is his move to IMG has some red flags. Mom was able to move to Fl with him. Some UNC/Nova people have said Nike/IMG has gotten in with him and family. Again just all speculation but its smoke. With how recruiting gets done I wouldn’t be surprised if KU loses out simply because Nike has a better offer.
We all know Nova’s success lately, kids are starting to be drawn there. I’m sure Nike is helping facilitate recruits toward the school, they are winning and nothing works easier then winning.
In the end as I said from the moment he announced the move to IMG this wasn’t in KU’s favor.
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@jayballer73 JRE’s mom definitely went to school here. She’s a Robinson. They are one of the absolute biggest KU legacies around. You can read up on it if you are interested.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Should make Zeke’s decision easier I hope
There hasn’t been a ton out there on him other than visit fluff pieces. He was tagged in this: https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Board/105393/Contents/Basketball-Authority-Report-Williams-transitioning-well-123801082/
But I am VIP and can’t read it.
Here you go my friend
Nnaji visited UCLA this past weekend and will be at Baylor this weekend followed by a visit to Purdue. We’re still of the belief that Arizona is legitimately in this one and the coaches are pursuing Nnaji with the belief that the Wildcats could land him. Each school has its draw to Nnaji and Kansas is the main competition, but Arizona is not out of this one by any means.
Okay so generic fluff just like every other article on him lately. Looks like we just have to wait and see.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Should make Zeke’s decision easier I hope
There hasn’t been a ton out there on him other than visit fluff pieces. He was tagged in this: https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Board/105393/Contents/Basketball-Authority-Report-Williams-transitioning-well-123801082/
But I am VIP and can’t read it.
Here you go my friend
Nnaji visited UCLA this past weekend and will be at Baylor this weekend followed by a visit to Purdue. We’re still of the belief that Arizona is legitimately in this one and the coaches are pursuing Nnaji with the belief that the Wildcats could land him. Each school has its draw to Nnaji and Kansas is the main competition, but Arizona is not out of this one by any means.
Okay so generic fluff just like every other article on him lately. Looks like we just have to wait and see.
Yes nothing earth-shattering. Their insider doesn’t know much, he’s speculating they are one of the favorites here. That could be the case based on their expected frontcourt next year and the recruiting class Miller has assembled to make it attractive for him.
I did see an article that said watch out for Purdue here… Interested to see whether any legs with that. Purdue looks well stocked with bigs after taking 2 in 2018, 1 in 2019 already and two underclassmen starters. They also will get his last visit it looks?
I think KU leads solidly here if the FBI thing hasn’t changed things
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Good stuff on the Phog about JRE. Apparently he has concerns about starting and how he would be used at KU. Bought into Jay’s sales pitch. WOOF.
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@BShark not good stuff
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BShark said:
Good stuff on the Phog about JRE. Apparently he has concerns about starting and how he would be used at KU. Bought into Jay’s sales pitch. WOOF.
Ouch. None of this surprises me
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BShark said:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/10/29/cassius-stanley-visits-ucla-oregon-up-next/
Momentum = dropped off a cliff
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@BShark just read where wright believes players should stay in 3 years.
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@BeddieKU23 I didn’t read it that negatively. That said, it’s going to be extremely tough to beat UCLA.
@Crimsonorblue22 I mean that the information comes from posters that have had good info in the past. The news itself is a gut punch of course. Jay Wright OWNS Bill Self at this point.
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Big swing and a miss. I’ve already moved on. I can’t blame him. Staff selling him and Hurt on playing together was never a good idea in my opinion. I didn’t ever see a scenario where they could start together on the same team. Now we might miss on both.
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@Kcmatt7 his mom must be moving the family, cause I thought that was important. Dang! I hate this.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Big swing and a miss. I’ve already moved on. I can’t blame him. Staff selling him and Hurt on playing together was never a good idea in my opinion. I didn’t ever see a scenario where they could start together on the same team. Now we might miss on both.
Absolutely no way to spin this one. Just have to move on and hopefully add Zeke Nnaji.
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I taught Lester Earls cousin in Baton Rouge. Maybe I can help deliver JRE!
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Here’s what I know about JRE. Now that it’s kind of out there, I can say his people think he can play the wing and has been promised some run on the perimeter at Nova, where KU sees him more of a traditional 4 (which, to be fair, he is). It’s also not over by any stretch of the imagination. KU certainly has their work out to close, but they definitely can.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Here’s what I know about JRE. Now that it’s kind of out there, I can say his people think he can play the wing and has been promised some run on the perimeter at Nova, where KU sees him more of a traditional 4 (which, to be fair, he is). It’s also not over by any stretch of the imagination. KU certainly has their work out to close, but they definitely can.
I love JRE’s game, but man, he is not a wing. He’s a CENTER in Nova’s system.
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BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Here’s what I know about JRE. Now that it’s kind of out there, I can say his people think he can play the wing and has been promised some run on the perimeter at Nova, where KU sees him more of a traditional 4 (which, to be fair, he is). It’s also not over by any stretch of the imagination. KU certainly has their work out to close, but they definitely can.
I love JRE’s game, but man, he is not a wing. He’s a CENTER in Nova’s system.
Recruiting, man. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Any day now we should hear Azubuike wants to play point guard in the league
I mean there was that one time he went coast to coast with the ball.
SMH
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Here’s what I know about JRE. Now that it’s kind of out there, I can say his people think he can play the wing and has been promised some run on the perimeter at Nova, where KU sees him more of a traditional 4 (which, to be fair, he is). It’s also not over by any stretch of the imagination. KU certainly has their work out to close, but they definitely can.
I love JRE’s game, but man, he is not a wing. He’s a CENTER in Nova’s system.
Recruiting, man. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Lol, for sure. I almost just replied to your post with #LiesToldInRecruiting but wanted to put some more words to it.
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If you use twitter and don’t follow Slater, I’d fix that.
https://twitter.com/Andrew__Slater/status/1057001579230965760
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Ha! I saw that. There’s no way on Earth that’s legal
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I’m 10,000% ready for that recruitment to end.
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Or, better, I’d love for him to land here, roll up to AFH in his brand new Rolls Royce plastered with Adidas stickers and half of the fanbase act totally oblivious as to why he landed in Lawrence. You know, normal KU basketball things.
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Man it’s starting to get really depressing looking here for any 'thing positive on recruiting. I mean I know you guys are just posting things you have read and heard. - I think the reason it’s so depressing to think we are losing recruits that we all thought we were sitting good on
ONCE just ONCE I would like to be able to see something positive on our recruiting the recruits. - -Looks like we are losing to Nova on JRE , and that absolutely sucks. – I just think we have lost Hurt , nothing solid but something is tellin me we have lost him - - - -I know it was crazy maybe to even think in the remotest - -crazy I know about even having a chance with Stanley Yet that was what I was thinking - -now it look more and more he IS NOT leaving the Coast , although I think someone here was mentioning from an article they had read about his visit to UCLA made it pretty official we had lost him
That article didn’t say that to me , in that article his dad STILL had some pretty good things about KU and Coach Self - -but yet I don’t think he is coming , Soooo that leaves us with Zeke. Now I fill confident about him yet even with him I’ve been hearing about Sweattie boy and Arizona - this could turn into a really sucky year. - -like I said ONCE please SOMEONE deliver me some good news on the recruiting front. - - see I’m depressed now lol. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Kcmatt7 who are we talking about here?
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2019 went from a class “we were in deep with” to what looks like could end up being Bill’s worst class in his entire time here at KU.
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@jayballer73 Wiseman
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Kcmatt7 said:
2019 went from a class “we were in deep with” to what looks like could end up being Bill’s worst class in his entire time here at KU.
Don’t care what anyone says, FBI stuff hurt.
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jayballer73 said:
Man it’s starting to get really depressing looking here for any 'thing positive on recruiting. I mean I know you guys are just posting things you have read and heard. - I think the reason it’s so depressing to think we are losing recruits that we all thought we were sitting good on
ONCE just ONCE I would like to be able to see something positive on our recruiting the recruits. - -Looks like we are losing to Nova on JRE , and that absolutely sucks. – I just think we have lost Hurt , nothing solid but something is tellin me we have lost him - - - -I know it was crazy maybe to even think in the remotest - -crazy I know about even having a chance with Stanley Yet that was what I was thinking - -now it look more and more he IS NOT leaving the Coast , although I think someone here was mentioning from an article they had read about his visit to UCLA made it pretty official we had lost him
That article didn’t say that to me , in that article his dad STILL had some pretty good things about KU and Coach Self - -but yet I don’t think he is coming , Soooo that leaves us with Zeke. Now I fill confident about him yet even with him I’ve been hearing about Sweattie boy and Arizona - this could turn into a really sucky year. - -like I said ONCE please SOMEONE deliver me some good news on the recruiting front. - - see I’m depressed now lol. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Something positive: I really like the addition of McBride. Dude is a BUCKET. Great shooter just needs some time to get stronger in the program. Should be a very nice 4 year guy.
If Self closes this class with Nnaji, Hurt and Stanley that would be pretty hot.
Stanley will be a tough pull, but doable. His dad sure seems to love Bill Self.
I think Purdue might actually be a bigger threat than Arizona for Zeke.
Too early to really tell with Hurt. Still hasn’t taken any OVs.
Kcmatt7 said:
Or, better, I’d love for him to land here, roll up to AFH in his brand new Rolls Royce plastered with Adidas stickers and half of the fanbase act totally oblivious as to why he landed in Lawrence. You know, normal KU basketball things.
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@BShark Absolutely did. Wouldn’t be shocked if it scared away Hurt and JRE. And will continue to be a cloud until the NCAA makes a ruling on it.
Fwiw, I do think we end up with at least a couple of top 100 guys before next season one way or another. I think Stumps could still be in trouble. I think Shaka could be in trouble. Bruce Pearl could end up in some stuff. UCLA is getting tired of not winning under Alford. Maryland is fed up with Turg. Add in any late risers or guys waiting on bigger offers.
So there is plenty of shuffling left. But we are definitely whiffing on our top guys and I totally thought Bill seemed to be getting in a groove again.
Just looking at uncommitted guys:
- Jaden McDaniels - What is up with him? Seems to have weak offers for being a top 10 guy. Perhaps a Spring signee?
- Precious looks like he is waiting. But also seems like he could be an eligibility nightmare? His recruitment has been quiet, but seems like Penny might have found a way in.
- Trendon Watford - We offered him. But apparently didn’t take the bait?
- Malik Hall - Man we didn’t even show any interest. Letting talent leave Kansas always bothers me.
- Carl Lewis - Is he an academic risk or something? NOBODY showing interest there.
- Tyrese Samuel - Only visited Wake so far. KSU supposedly involved, so he has to be clean right? lol.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Absolutely did. Wouldn’t be shocked if it scared away Hurt and JRE. And will continue to be a cloud until the NCAA makes a ruling on it.
Fwiw, I do think we end up with at least a couple of top 100 guys before next season one way or another. I think Stumps could still be in trouble. I think Shaka could be in trouble. Bruce Pearl could end up in some stuff. UCLA is getting tired of not winning under Alford. Maryland is fed up with Turg. Add in any late risers or guys waiting on bigger offers.
So there is plenty of shuffling left. But we are definitely whiffing on our top guys and I totally thought Bill seemed to be getting in a groove again.
Just looking at uncommitted guys:
- Jaden McDaniels - What is up with him? Seems to have weak offers for being a top 10 guy. Perhaps a Spring signee?
- Precious looks like he is waiting. But also seems like he could be an eligibility nightmare? His recruitment has been quiet, but seems like Penny might have found a way in.
- Trendon Watford - We offered him. But apparently didn’t take the bait?
- Malik Hall - Man we didn’t even show any interest. Letting talent leave Kansas always bothers me.
- Carl Lewis - Is he an academic risk or something? NOBODY showing interest there.
- Tyrese Samuel - Only visited Wake so far. KSU supposedly involved, so he has to be clean right? lol.
We’ll see on Hurt. Last I knew he was more interested in high school football than college basketball. And the list within the list still had KU at or near the top, so we’ll see.
Here’s what I have on the rest: McDaniels - different type of dude. Kentucky is involved but I expect him to either stay home or go hang out with his brother.
Precious - Memphis is trying to get in, but UConn is also really strong there. Could be a G League candidate honestly.
Trendon - KU was never that serious about him given their desire for JRE, Hurt, and Zeke.
Lewis - has all the academic red flags. Probable JuCo.
Samuel - I think UConn or K-State. Don’t think KU is interested.
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@FarmerJayhawk Most of that confirmed what I thought. Slim pickings left. My worst fear is landing another Landen Lucas.
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@Kcmatt7 We’ve been disagreeing a lot lately, but not here – “Most of that confirmed what I thought. Slim pickings left. My worst fear is landing another Landen Lucas.” Right on point.
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@HighEliteMajor I don’t think it hurts to have an LL. Just not a great idea to let him be your top option for 2.5 years.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
2019 went from a class “we were in deep with” to what looks like could end up being Bill’s worst class in his entire time here at KU.
Don’t care what anyone says, FBI stuff hurt.
Oh I couldn’t agree more, I think it kicked us right square in the old crotch - -big time kick. - Some people wee trying to fool themselves, that it wouldn’t/ Even if NOTHING comes from this, hell I even heard some people ssay that these are 17-18 yrs old kids and they don’t ever consider things like this - -and here is where I call BS
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No surprise but Cole Anthony cut KU.
https://twitter.com/the_coleanthony/status/1057070826661601280?s=21
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Anthony’s final 6 are Oregon, UNC, Norte Dame, Miami, Georgetown, and Wake Forrest.
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Lol at that list.
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Gonna look great in Carolina blue.
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@FarmerJayhawk KSU people were acting like their class is done. If they are adding Samuel potentially, I guess Bruce is sharpening his axe on a currently unsuspecting kid.
I’m going to have to agree with @mayjay it doesn’t hurt to have a Landen Lucas around. Mitch is essentially another Lucas level player. The problem is if they have to start. Keep in mind the plan was NEVER for Lucas to start. Not one single year in his time at KU.
Anyway, Self will find some at least half-real guys, plus the returning roster should be decent. I’m not worried about next year as things currently stand.
Let’s look at other bigs in years Lucas got starts
SO year: Perry, Cliff, Jamari, Hunter
JR year: Perry, Diallo, Bragg, Jamari, Hunter
SR year: Doke, Bragg, Coleby and I guess Mitch but he wasn’t expected to be a factor
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@BShark we can’t lose another game like the Oregon game. Great kid, but…
